how are people still trading the poor kid with the brain tumour?

Detroit declines

Yeah can't trade Amirov, even if someone wanted him, throwing him in as a sweetener like that would reflect bad on the Leafs. Nylander return is lackluster.

Why do you think so? The retention and overall cap difference? I do think they would rather get someone they can easily keep around for 7-8m on a long term deal. They are getting the better player for cheap

I have no interest in trading Bertuzzi. The Red Wings don't exist to make the Leafs better. We're trying to win too. Nylander isn't the better player. He's gutless. Bertuzzi never takes a night off.

The complications with moving Bert especially to Canada just makes it impossible right now. In theory I'd take take nylander for Bert though.

I wonder if Nylander for Laine+Peeke as a base trade can be something if Laine accepts his QO. Toronto would probably need a RFA like Texier (and send back something) or the deal would have to be a sign & trade type of thing before he accepts the QO

Trade Bert for THIS guy? Yeah right.

Ah you mean from an AGM perspective. Realistically speaking though, the Red Wings D-core's physicality probably can make up for Nylander's lack of, Toronto only had like 3 physical defenders in the offseason

hahahaha, I don't get why leaf fans think Nylander is worth so much. Laine is worth more than Nylander and you think we need to add our 1RD and young promising Winger??? Just stop with this

The answer is pretty simple: Willie is too soft, and takes too many shifts/games off. Willie is easily more skilled and talented than Bert, but Bert works twice as hard. Bert is the exact type of player you need in the playoffs. While we are still a couple years away, when we get there, we will need a player like Tyler Bertuzi, not William Nylander.

I think Laine is better than Nylander, that being said Nylander has the better track record, and the only scenario that they trade him is if they are going to lose him for free. Also, read again I wasn't saying Nylander for Laine+Peeke+Texier or even Laine+Peeke for Nylander alone. If they were both RFAs that were being moved or in the same position you could expect a 1 for 1. If Laine walks the Leafs need something to soften that blow and just 1 player isn't enough. Nylander can be traded if he doesn't sign (he does have a m-NTC). The Leafs are going to have to add to get all 3. Only reason I mentioned Texier was because they were open to trading him (ofc they were looking for someone to overpay).

If the leafs moved Amirov its because another team wants him, they wouldn’t actively include him in any trades. So unlikely ofcourse, but not impossible

If the team can make up for his lack of physicality then it's a manageable issue, if not they can still move him next year for a larger return than Bertuzzi would probably fetch.

It's still a bad look. Trading a player who's still getting chemo for his brain tumour? Classless.

Blame the team wanting him then

except when he plays in canada, cause his pride and ego go before his teammates

nylander>laine

His teammates love him. He doesn't care what you think.

I blame you for making a bad suggestion.

I disagree. Laine younger and a PPG player. Has shown in the past can be a top goal scorer in the league. Has proven this past season to not be a defensive liability anymore either. He's better and younger. Worth Nylander + 1st + good young prospect

Yeah, but as a guy that was considered a top prospect in their system. If they are moving him for a 3rd for example, then that shows a lack of support for him in a time that he needs it. This is a case where saying "that's just business" would reflect badly on the organization and probably lead to severed relationships in Russia where they rely on for getting undrafted talent too

he was a ppg player this year, he is not a ppg player, willy had 80 in 81, hasnt been a top scorer for years, willy has a better contract, imagine hes worth that lmao, delusional

He's not worth all that especially if he's walking. If the two players are in the same circumstance it's a 1 for 1 trade one side might be able to squeeze a sweetner but Nylander has the better track record and Laine is younger (him being the better player doesn't matter because it would be tough to prove). In the scenario that I gave Laine is indicating that he is likely walking, Nylander might do the same but they have a year. Either way both teams would want other pieces so that they aren't left with nothing if either walk

Laine has said multiple times he is not walking and will resign, of course as long as he gets a contract he likes.