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what could this combo bring back

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Team: 2022-23 Boston Bruins
Initial Creation Date: May 26, 2022
Published: May 26, 2022
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if the Bruins decided to trade Carlo and Debrusk as a package what could that bring us back? does it get close to someone like Barzal who put up 60 points and needs a new deal? does it open the door on JT MIller? given lysell makes the jump next season or the one after do we target a short term RW? i think center is the most important area to address.
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  1. Carlo, Brandon
  2. DeBrusk, Jake
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May 26, 2022 at 8:45 a.m.
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yeah I don't think the islanders would do that ahahah
May 26, 2022 at 8:47 a.m.
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Just cant see NYI doing that... Too important of a player for them. Outside of Raty they dont really have anyone up the middle.
May 26, 2022 at 8:48 a.m.
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What is this? Isles don’t even entertain it. Barzal has 1 year left on his contract and he put up 60 points with no wingers in a Trotz system.

Wake up lol
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May 26, 2022 at 8:49 a.m.
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yeah I don't think the islanders would do that ahahah


They wouldn’t, but i don’t think it’s crazy…not because of what boston is offering, but I because I think the league kind of figured out barzal. He had that 85 point second campaign, and since then its kind of been trending backwards. I don’t think he’s a 1C at this point. Very high end 2C that’s going to get you 60 points.

That said, i just can’t see the isles trading him.
May 26, 2022 at 8:55 a.m.
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not in the same solar system as Barzal’s value
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May 26, 2022 at 8:55 a.m.
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Just cant see NYI doing that... Too important of a player for them. Outside of Raty they dont really have anyone up the middle.

Brock Nelson but he will become a winger once Raty plays in the NHL
May 26, 2022 at 9:04 a.m.
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Closer to Cizikas value than Barzy’s lol
May 26, 2022 at 9:05 a.m.
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Quoting: CMcAvoy73
They wouldn’t, but i don’t think it’s crazy…not because of what boston is offering, but I because I think the league kind of figured out barzal. He had that 85 point second campaign, and since then its kind of been trending backwards. I don’t think he’s a 1C at this point. Very high end 2C that’s going to get you 60 points.

That said, i just can’t see the isles trading him.



Boston is giving up what tho.... an ok D and top 9 winger nothing great.... Barzal is a great player who is trending down cuz the team is
May 26, 2022 at 9:05 a.m.
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Quoting: CMcAvoy73
They wouldn’t, but i don’t think it’s crazy…not because of what boston is offering, but I because I think the league kind of figured out barzal. He had that 85 point second campaign, and since then its kind of been trending backwards. I don’t think he’s a 1C at this point. Very high end 2C that’s going to get you 60 points.

That said, i just can’t see the isles trading him.


It's less the league figured him out and more he went from putting up 86 points as a 20 year old rookie in Doug Weight's all-offense-all-the-time "system" to playing in Trotz's defense first system (with a rotating cast of wings this year no less). Playing in a more balanced system with decent wings, he's probably close to a point per game guy.
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May 26, 2022 at 9:07 a.m.
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Boston is giving up what tho.... an ok D and top 9 winger nothing great.... Barzal is a great player who is trending down cuz the team is


Top four D and their first line winger. Both 25 and signed for multiple years.

I am NOT advocating for this trade and I thought i made that clear. Barzal has been that 60 point guy for four consecutive years, including two years when the islanders went to the conference finals.
May 26, 2022 at 9:08 a.m.
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Quoting: CMcAvoy73
They wouldn’t, but i don’t think it’s crazy…not because of what boston is offering, but I because I think the league kind of figured out barzal. He had that 85 point second campaign, and since then its kind of been trending backwards. I don’t think he’s a 1C at this point. Very high end 2C that’s going to get you 60 points.

That said, i just can’t see the isles trading him.


I don’t think that’s a remotely fair assessment of Barzal. And the offer is absolutely insane.
May 26, 2022 at 9:09 a.m.
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It's less the league figured him out and more he went from putting up 86 points as a 20 year old rookie in Doug Weight's all-offense-all-the-time "system" to playing in Trotz's defense first system (with a rotating cast of wings this year no less). Playing in a more balanced system with decent wings, he's probably close to a point per game guy.


Legit top centermen can score while playing defensively.
May 26, 2022 at 9:12 a.m.
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Quoting: Heyhowareya37
Just cant see NYI doing that... Too important of a player for them. Outside of Raty they dont really have anyone up the middle.


Brock and JG r good veteran options
May 26, 2022 at 9:12 a.m.
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Quoting: CMcAvoy73
Legit top centermen can score while playing defensively.


I’m sure that’s why he sent Boston packing in 20-21
May 26, 2022 at 9:13 a.m.
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Quoting: CMcAvoy73
Legit top centermen can score while playing defensively.


There’s nothing more ironic than a guy calling himself McAvoy ripping into the Island. Just thank us for giving him to u and stop being a clown.
May 26, 2022 at 9:16 a.m.
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Brock Nelson but he will become a winger once Raty plays in the NHL


Idk about that. It’s possible that Raty starts at wing.
May 26, 2022 at 9:18 a.m.
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Quoting: CMcAvoy73
Top four D and their first line winger. Both 25 and signed for multiple years.

I am NOT advocating for this trade and I thought i made that clear. Barzal has been that 60 point guy for four consecutive years, including two years when the islanders went to the conference finals.


We have a strength at RD, don’t need Carlo. And Debrusk is not a top line winger
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May 26, 2022 at 9:19 a.m.
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Quoting: Islanders6187
Idk about that. It’s possible that Raty starts at wing.


i think its most likely we see both of them, but once Bailey and Palms are gone we will have a core of:
Barzal, Lee, Beau, Wahly, Raty, Pageau, Dufour, Bellows, Cizikas, Nelson. Most likely we see Nelson move to Barzal to give him a lethal shooter along side Wahly. Could also see us trading Pageau and running those 3 as a 1-2-3 center core
May 26, 2022 at 9:20 a.m.
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Quoting: oliver_wahlstrom
i think its most likely we see both of them, but once Bailey and Palms are gone we will have a core of:
Barzal, Lee, Beau, Wahly, Raty, Pageau, Dufour, Bellows, Cizikas, Nelson. Most likely we see Nelson move to Barzal to give him a lethal shooter along side Wahly. Could also see us trading Pageau and running those 3 as a 1-2-3 center core


I don’t have an issue with either idea. Hopefully Lambert gives Barzal a chance to prove himself defensively next year. I think he is more than ready to step up on that end.
May 26, 2022 at 9:21 a.m.
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We have a strength at RD, don’t need Carlo. And Debrusk is not a top line winger


I have an irrational emotional attachment to Josh Bailey and Nick Leddy. But even I’m not as crazy as this McAvoy guy is.
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May 26, 2022 at 9:26 a.m.
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I have an irrational emotional attachment to Josh Bailey and Nick Leddy. But even I’m not as crazy as this McAvoy guy is.


I also have a deep mistrust of the analytics lol. What do the analytics guys know that a 22 year old beer league hockey player doesn’t? 😂😜
May 26, 2022 at 9:31 a.m.
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Brock and JG r good veteran options


Sure... and i really like both players. I should have been more clear, I meant more in the long term. Also, with this past year being a step back for them - it may be a fluke and they may compete next year, but if it isn't you have to start moving pieces potentially like JG, etc. I shouldve just said that Barzal is too much of an importnat piece for NYI in the present and in the future to really consider moving. Have to get a ridiculous package back, or he would need to pull and Eichel to get moved.
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May 26, 2022 at 9:33 a.m.
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Quoting: Marcheesy
We have a strength at RD, don’t need Carlo. And Debrusk is not a top line winger


He was for boston.
May 26, 2022 at 9:33 a.m.
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There’s nothing more ironic than a guy calling himself McAvoy ripping into the Island. Just thank us for giving him to u and stop being a clown.


Ahhh yes, were at the point in the discussion where a fanboy gets upset that someone has a differing view and lashes out.
May 26, 2022 at 9:34 a.m.
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I’m sure that’s why he sent Boston packing in 20-21


He did it? I thought the islanders did.
 
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