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Created by: nhl_insider_maybe
Team: 2022-23 Colorado Avalanche
Initial Creation Date: May 27, 2022
Published: May 27, 2022
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Which one is a better target? What are their prices? Personaly I rather Suzuki and Hischier over Barzal, but he would be good too
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        DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
        2022
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        2023
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        2024
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        ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
        16$82,500,000$78,140,000$25,000$3,350,000$4,360,000
        Left WingCentreRight Wing
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        $7,000,000$7,000,000
        LW, C
        NMC
        UFA - 7
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        $6,300,000$6,300,000
        C
        NMC
        UFA - 1
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        $9,250,000$9,250,000
        RW, C
        UFA - 3
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        $7,875,000$7,875,000
        C
        UFA - 8
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        $3,500,000$3,500,000
        C, RW
        UFA - 1
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        $908,333$908,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
        C, LW
        RFA - 1
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        $1,050,000$1,050,000
        RW, LW
        UFA - 3
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        $7,000,000$7,000,000
        C, RW
        UFA - 1
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        $7,250,000$7,250,000
        C
        UFA - 5
        Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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        $5,000,000$5,000,000
        LD/RD
        UFA - 5
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        $9,000,000$9,000,000
        RD
        UFA - 5
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        $2,000,000$2,000,000
        G
        UFA - 2
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        $4,100,000$4,100,000
        LD
        UFA - 2
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        $6,000,000$6,000,000
        RD
        M-NTC, NMC
        UFA - 1
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        $987,500$987,500
        LD/RD, LW
        UFA - 2
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        $894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
        LD/RD
        RFA - 1

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        May 27, 2022 at 8:24 a.m.
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        All 3 of those players are untouchable
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        May 27, 2022 at 8:33 a.m.
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        Price for all 3 of those guys is so astronomical that the Avs don’t have the assets to do it without blowing up the core.
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        May 27, 2022 at 8:46 a.m.
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        its a simple answer. none
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        May 27, 2022 at 9:01 a.m.
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        they'll all be too expensive.
        May 27, 2022 at 9:10 a.m.
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        isles ask would start with Newhook & Byram for Barzal (ie, a price you're not going to want to pay)
        May 27, 2022 at 9:12 a.m.
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        Why wouldn't you just play Newhook there with some good supporting wingers while using your cap space to pay Burakovsky/Nichushkin and find a goalie like Jack Campbell?

        Also, Landeskog could play 2C if Newhook isn't ready, couldn't he?
        May 27, 2022 at 9:26 a.m.
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        Suzuki vs MacKinnon and we might answer ...
        May 27, 2022 at 10:01 a.m.
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        Quoting: dannibalcorpse
        isles ask would start with Newhook & Byram for Barzal (ie, a price you're not going to want to pay)


        Wouldn't even want Byram with his concussion history tbh
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        May 27, 2022 at 10:08 a.m.
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        Quoting: joshelkin
        Wouldn't even want Byram with his concussion history tbh


        it's concerning for sure, but I'd take the swing - you hope that Newhook becomes the eventual 1C and that Byram becomes an LD2 stud. I would also swap in Sam Girard for Byram, but I think he has less value and Colorado might have to add a little more if that was the path they went down.

        Bottom line, I don't want to trade Barzal, but Colorado actually has the pieces that could make it an interesting trade (unlike all the Barzal to Boston/Winnipeg/whoever else ACGMs that have been popping up.)
        May 27, 2022 at 10:27 a.m.
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        Hischier is not available.

        Zacha, Boqvist would be the centers we have that are available.
        May 27, 2022 at 10:47 a.m.
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        Dvo would be available but Zuke is not
        May 27, 2022 at 10:51 a.m.
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        Quoting: Campabee
        Dvo would be available but Zuke is not


        gotta love habs fans

        "the 1C you're thinking of trading for wouldn't be available but the guy who's never hit 40 points in a season and is paid $4.45M is"
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        May 27, 2022 at 10:55 a.m.
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        Quoting: dannibalcorpse
        gotta love habs fans

        "the 1C you're thinking of trading for wouldn't be available but the guy who's never hit 40 points in a season and is paid $4.45M is"


        Montreal is not considering trading Suzuki (no idea where you are getting this info) and of course Dvo would be available (rumor is he is already being shopped).

        Gotta love Isle's fans commenting on something that they know absolutely NOTHING about!
        May 27, 2022 at 10:59 a.m.
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        Quoting: Campabee
        Montreal is not considering trading Suzuki (no idea where you are getting this info) and of course Dvo would be available (rumor is he is already being shopped).

        Gotta love Isle's fans commenting on something that they know absolutely NOTHING about!


        no one said any of these players are rumored to be moved, OP is just asking fans of each team what they think the cost would be. acting like nick suzuki is completely untouchable is just silly - every player has a price, even if Avs fans might not want to pay it once they hear what it is
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        May 27, 2022 at 11:06 a.m.
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        Quoting: dannibalcorpse
        no one said any of these players are rumored to be moved, OP is just asking fans of each team what they think the cost would be. acting like nick suzuki is completely untouchable is just silly - every player has a price, even if Avs fans might not want to pay it once they hear what it is


        No one said he was untouchable, I only said he was not available. There is a difference, unavailable could mean not being moved at this point or simply that The Avs don't have anything that they would be willing to trade and the Habs would be interested (ie.. Mackinnon, Makar) We have no use for most of their prospects and they have no interest in moving core pieces. So from both sides there is no deal that works, therefore he is unavailable.
        May 27, 2022 at 11:12 a.m.
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        The Avs aren’t trading for any of those guys for a number of reasons. 1) the assets to acquire them, 100% you are having to part with at a minimum Newhook, and multiple 1st rd picks and that probably just gets the conversation going. 2) how do they make the cap work? That like $30M to 4 forwards before you sign anybody or give MacKinnon an extension.
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        May 27, 2022 at 11:15 a.m.
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        Quoting: dtd_tank
        Why wouldn't you just play Newhook there with some good supporting wingers while using your cap space to pay Burakovsky/Nichushkin and find a goalie like Jack Campbell?

        Also, Landeskog could play 2C if Newhook isn't ready, couldn't he?


        What you do is play Landeskog on Newhook’s wing and let him shepherd Newhook like he did MacKinnon, basically playing the c role on defense. Burakovsky is out imo. COL top 6 wingers next year will probably be Mikko, Landeskog, Nichushkin and Lehkonen. Playing Lehkonen in the top 6 where he has looked really good allows the them to spend a little more in other areas.
        May 27, 2022 at 1:23 p.m.
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        Quoting: dannibalcorpse
        it's concerning for sure, but I'd take the swing - you hope that Newhook becomes the eventual 1C and that Byram becomes an LD2 stud. I would also swap in Sam Girard for Byram, but I think he has less value and Colorado might have to add a little more if that was the path they went down.

        Bottom line, I don't want to trade Barzal, but Colorado actually has the pieces that could make it an interesting trade (unlike all the Barzal to Boston/Winnipeg/whoever else ACGMs that have been popping up.)


        Imo, Byram has more value than Newhook. Both are real young, but Byram projects as a top pairing guy in the near future. His problem in Colorado is that he’s behind Makar and Toews. (And before a Habs fan comes in an offers Dvorak + Armia for Byram: it’s a great problem to have, go away).

        Newhook might develop into a top line guy one day, but he’s unlikely to be a 1C on a contender imo. He’s probably more of a 2C if he develops more, but he’s not there yet. Such a smart and skilled player though, I’m looking forward to seeing him grow.
        May 27, 2022 at 1:28 p.m.
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        Quoting: turtlemountain
        Imo, Byram has more value than Newhook. Both are real young, but Byram projects as a top pairing guy in the near future. His problem in Colorado is that he’s behind Makar and Toews. (And before a Habs fan comes in an offers Dvorak + Armia for Byram: it’s a great problem to have, go away).

        Newhook might develop into a top line guy one day, but he’s unlikely to be a 1C on a contender imo. He’s probably more of a 2C if he develops more, but he’s not there yet. Such a smart and skilled player though, I’m looking forward to seeing him grow.


        they are both excellent prospects which is why i'd peg them as the possible return in a Barzal trade.

        I'd argue that Colorado is deep enough, though, that they don't need to trade for a Barzal/Suzuki/Hischier type. Keep MacKinnon as 1C and target either a younger guy like Trocheck who'll get less money than Kadri but hopefully turn into what NK was for the Avs, or take a short term swing on a guy like Claude Giroux. Keep Newhook at 3C and let him develop his game in a more sheltered role for a year or so and let him loose after that.
        May 27, 2022 at 1:36 p.m.
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        next time the avs would get a pick in the draft PS7 will be out. youd trade half the picks to get these guys and the other half of the picks to trade for salary cap space
        May 27, 2022 at 6:20 p.m.
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        Why would Habs take Price for Suzuki when they already have Price?
        May 27, 2022 at 11:57 p.m.
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        Makar is the only player for Suzuki. I wouldnt even take Mack, ufa soon and his new contract is gonna be disgusting
         
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