Upsettingly realistic

Forums/Armchair-GM

First2

Page 2 of 2

Created by: Stadel

Team: 2022-23 Buffalo Sabres

Initial Creation Date: May 28, 2022

Published: May 28, 2022

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

Ownership's dream right here. Actual salary expenditure is under 63 mil.

No changes at forward. Yes Krebs on 4th line. Open any public advanced stats model, the guy got absolutely rocked at the NHL level and before you say it, yes I saw that one pass he made on Friday March the who cares. He had the worst possession and shot quality for/against of any Sabres forward (including Eakin). Let him work his stuff out with defensively responsible players and he'll probably take Mittelstadt's spot at some point.

Fans will love adding PK Subban b/c many of them think its still 2014 or w/e

Desmith cause he'll get the starter role, Karmanos connection might be a factor

I just guessed the Weber deal, i really don't know. I assume the Sabres will get something for it, just nothing particularly strong since there will be more than one team interested.

Free Agent Signings

RFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Luukkonen, Ukko-Pekka	2	$1,000,000
Olofsson, Victor	4	$4,850,000
Bryson, Jacob	2	$1,250,000

UFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Subban, P.K.	2	$4,500,000
Hinostroza, Vinnie	2	$1,725,000
DeSmith, Casey	2	$3,000,000
Pysyk, Mark	1	$1,000,000

Trades

BUF

Weber, Shea
2022 3rd round pick (CAR)
2022 4th round pick (NYR)

Additional Details:

Idk what good value here is. Multiple teams will be interested, but he's not playing so I imagine it'll cost MTL something to move him, but nothing like when the leafs had to move Marleau since his actual salary is much lower.

MTL

Buyouts

Cody Hodgson: $791,667
Christian Ehrhoff: $0

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2022
2023
2024

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

EMBED

TEXT-EMBED

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$82,500,000	$68,067,143	$0	$3,120,000	$14,432,857

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Skinner, Jeff $9,000,000$9,000,000 LW, RW NMC UFA - 5	Thompson, Tage $1,400,000$1,400,000 C UFA - 1	Tuch, Alex $4,750,000$4,750,000 RW, LW UFA - 4
Olofsson, Victor $4,850,000$4,850,000 RW, LW UFA - 2	Cozens, Dylan $894,167$894,167 ($850,000$850K) C, LW UFA - 1	Quinn, Jack $863,333$863,333 ($850,000$850K) RW, LW RFA - 3
Asplund, Rasmus $825,000$825,000 LW, C RFA - 1	Mittelstadt, Casey $2,500,000$2,500,000 LW, C RFA - 2	Peterka, John-Jason $855,833$855,833 ($82,500$82K) LW, RW RFA - 3
Krebs, Peyton $863,333$863,333 ($412,500$412K) C, LW RFA - 2	Girgensons, Zemgus $2,200,000$2,200,000 LW, C UFA - 1	Okposo, Kyle $6,000,000$6,000,000 RW M-NTC UFA - 1
Bjork, Anders $1,600,000$1,600,000 LW, RW UFA - 1		Hinostroza, Vinnie $1,725,000$1,725,000 RW, LW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Samuelsson, Mattias $925,000$925,000 LD UFA - 1	Dahlin, Rasmus $6,000,000$6,000,000 LD/RD UFA - 2	DeSmith, Casey $3,000,000$3,000,000 G UFA - 2
	Subban, P.K. $4,500,000$4,500,000 RD UFA	Luukkonen, Ukko-Pekka $1,000,000$1,000,000 G RFA - 2
Power, Owen $916,667$916,667 ($925,000$925K) LD/RD UFA - 2	Jokiharju, Henri $2,500,000$2,500,000 RD RFA - 2
Bryson, Jacob $1,250,000$1,250,000 LD/RD RFA - 2
Pysyk, Mark $1,000,000$1,000,000 RD UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
	Weber, Shea $7,857,143$7,857,143 RD UFA - 4

May 28, 2022 at 5:45 p.m.

#26

Campabee

Joined: Nov. 2018

Posts: 15,424

Likes: 6,385

Quoting: Stadel

That was for cap relief from the ceiling, not the floor. They dont want a team paying assets to avoid spending to the league min. its a bad look

Yeah, it's more about the league looking bad than anything else lol. I still think a team will have to send assets to Montreal for the contract since it has value to the acquiring team lol.

Stadel liked this.

May 28, 2022 at 5:46 p.m.

#27

Stadel

Thread Starter

Joined: Jun. 2015

Posts: 3,208

Likes: 2,071

Quoting: Czu8iks

Arizona is the desitination for Weber if any team. He is owned 6 millions, but carries cap hit for 4 more years. Perfect for Arizona - 60 mil cap floor, would cost them 55 mil in 2022/23 and then 53.
Sabres should try to make the floor, by actually signing guys which can improve this roster.

They should, they won't. They dont wanna move casey and they don't wanna block the path of Peterka and Quinn. Subban and Desmith help get them pretty close to the floor (i think i was at 60 mil before the Weber add)

May 28, 2022 at 5:46 p.m.

#28

Shibbal18

Joined: Jan. 2016

Posts: 25,192

Likes: 9,012

Quoting: Stadel

Says the guy trying to deny my right to freedom of expression?

Who isnt, now-a-days? Reject totalitarianism

Stadel liked this.

May 28, 2022 at 5:47 p.m.

#29

Stadel

Thread Starter

Joined: Jun. 2015

Posts: 3,208

Likes: 2,071

Quoting: Campabee

Yeah, it's more about the league looking bad than anything else lol. I still think a team will have to send assets to Montreal for the contract since it has value to the acquiring team lol.

Its definitely one Im curious to see how it unfolds (if it happens this summer).

Campabee liked this.

May 28, 2022 at 5:51 p.m.

#30

sabres89

Joined: Feb. 2017

Posts: 8,220

Likes: 6,211

Quoting: Czu8iks

I'm fine with spending money on cap dumps if they come with prime assets, otherwise just overpay for a few ufas. There's no reason to help teams out for free.

Stadel liked this.

May 28, 2022 at 5:52 p.m.

#31

Stadel

Thread Starter

Joined: Jun. 2015

Posts: 3,208

Likes: 2,071

Quoting: sabres89

I'm fine with spending money on cap dumps if they come with prime assets, otherwise just overpay for a few ufas. There's no reason to help teams out for free.

I thought about Lucic+assets from CGY but he's still playing and...well...idk how realistic that is lol.

sabres89 liked this.

May 28, 2022 at 5:59 p.m.

#32

Black61

Joined: Sep. 2020

Posts: 2,600

Likes: 1,655

Quoting: Stadel

That was for cap relief from the ceiling, not the floor. They dont want a team paying assets to avoid spending to the league min. its a bad look

The league was fine with it they explained it in a press conference the habs are in the process of getting the insurance on the contract sorted so the acquireing team pays no actual dollars so it made sense for arizona to wait as they could potentially save even more

Stadel and sabres89 liked this.

May 28, 2022 at 6:00 p.m.

#33

Stadel

Thread Starter

Joined: Jun. 2015

Posts: 3,208

Likes: 2,071

Quoting: Black61

Interesting, thanks for that!

May 28, 2022 at 6:05 p.m.

#34

sabres89

Joined: Feb. 2017

Posts: 8,220

Likes: 6,211

Quoting: Stadel

I thought about Lucic+assets from CGY but he's still playing and...well...idk how realistic that is lol.

I mentioned this before, I think the market for cap space is way too buyer friendly. I personally think a 5 million dollar cap dump is worth a first. It's not a straight line, some guys like Tyler Myers, actually play, just not very well, so their 6 million dollar salary is probably not a straight dump. I know Ron Francis was taking crap from the talking heads for not accepting 5th or 6th round picks for cap dumps, because those picks were free assets. Which I don't understand honestly. I'm with Francis on this, if you give it up for free, don't expect anybody to pay you.

Stadel liked this.

May 28, 2022 at 6:11 p.m.

#35

F50marco

Joined: May 2015

Posts: 19,561

Likes: 6,707

Quoting: Stadel

I just assume some sort of mid to late pay pick for whoever takes him. I take your point, but I believe part of the rumoured reason the league nixed the weber/arizona deal is because they dont like the optics of a team paying picks for a player just to get the floor. IIRC, they really pushed the "if you're only going to the cap floor can your actual salary invested in the team be at least close to that?" with the owners.

Yeah I heard that too. Obviously this is all hearsay but I also heard that the way they'd accept it is if they make it an actual hockey deal. That obviously takes more time to do so both GM's couldn't make it work before the TDL. I still think it will happen but both teams will need to add some pieces to make look a little less obvious. Maybe a couple extra roster players added or something along those lines.

May 28, 2022 at 6:15 p.m.

#36

F50marco

Joined: May 2015

Posts: 19,561

Likes: 6,707

Quoting: TheRaphMan

Arizona actually pays nothing since his contract is insured

Yeah I was only saying that for context in times of savings millions by not spending but yeah they don't actually pay anything. Well technically that's not necessarily 100% true. Insurance companies don't always cover 100% of the contracts. They may cover like 60-90% of it. But by that time the remaining amount is peanuts in the grand scheme of things so its often considered nothing.

TheRaphMan liked this.

May 28, 2022 at 6:37 p.m.

#37

Czu8iks

Joined: Apr. 2022

Posts: 2,035

Likes: 1,372

Quoting: Stadel

Pay some vet, if Peterka or Quinn outplay him, trade him at deadline. Someone has to push youngins.
Also RHD and Goalies 1A and third postions are wide open.

Shibbal18 liked this.

First2

Page 2 of 2

DISPLAY SETTING

BETTING ODDS

LOCALE

ARCHIVE

CBA

CALCULATORS

FANTASY HOCKEY TOOLS

TOOLS

PLAYERS

WESTERN CONFERENCE

EASTERN CONFERENCE

INTERACTIVE FEATURES

Forums/Armchair-GM