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Created by: Julesens
Team: 2022-23 Ottawa Senators
Initial Creation Date: May 26, 2022
Published: May 28, 2022
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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EDM needs cap relief and Klefbom is dead weight. If he comes back he'll probably be a step behind the game. But if he can play well, he's an immediate upgrade on D3 with fellow countryman Brannstrom or someone else.

Brown is a guy with one more year and would be a demon for EDM on a reasonable cap hit. Maybe there is more value to be had here, and the return isn't a huge name guy like the core asked for, but there is potential for sure. I think EDM should jump at a Brown deal if this is the framework, he's such a great winger and would be Hyman Lite.

The big ouch is Jesse P. EDM wants to resign him but will have tough choices this summer, and OTT needs real value back for a guy like Brown (could easily fetch a 1st + at the deadline). He fits into Ottawa's top 9 and might be a nice winger for Stu. Also his vibes are immaculate and I want them lol. What we thinking fellas?
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
7$7,200,000
4$2,500,000
3$2,800,000
2$1,700,000
4$3,000,000
Trades
1.
OTT
ARI
  1. Zaitsev, Nikita
  2. 2022 2nd round pick (TBL)
2.
OTT
DAL
  1. Del Zotto, Michael
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anywhere
3.
OTT
  1. Klefbom, Oscar
  2. Puljujärvi, Jesse [RFA Rights]
  3. 2023 2nd round pick (EDM)
EDM
  1. Brown, Connor
  2. 2022 5th round pick (BOS)
Buyouts
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2022
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2023
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2024
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$82,500,000$67,495,214$0$4,450,000$15,004,786
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$8,205,714$8,205,714
LW
UFA - 6
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$7,200,000$7,200,000
C
UFA - 8
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$4,975,000$4,975,000
RW, LW
UFA - 5
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$863,333$863,333
C, LW
RFA - 3
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
C
UFA - 1
$3,000,000$3,000,000
RW
UFA - 1
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$2,800,000$2,800,000
LW
RFA
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$600,000$600K)
C
RFA - 1
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 4
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$762,500$762,500
LW
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$821,667$821,667
C, RW
RFA - 1
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$8,000,000$8,000,000
LD
UFA - 6
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
RD
RFA - 1
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
G
UFA - 3
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$925,000$925K)
LD
UFA - 2
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$4,687,500$4,687,500
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$4,167,000$4,167,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$1,700,000$1,700,000
LD/RD, LW
RFA - 1
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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LD
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UFA - 1

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May 28, 2022 at 4:59 p.m.
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Why is Edmonton paying to move LTIR contract and the younger RFA player?
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May 28, 2022 at 5:05 p.m.
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1. We are not spending a 2nd to dump Zaitsev if we are ending up with 13.4 million in cap space.

2. Edmonton is not spending Puljujarvi and a 2nd on Connor Brown.

3. Klefbom will be on LTIR for the remainder of his contract.
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May 28, 2022 at 5:07 p.m.
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Why is Edmonton paying to move LTIR contract and the younger RFA player?


peep your cap situation
May 28, 2022 at 5:10 p.m.
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1. We are not spending a 2nd to dump Zaitsev if we are ending up with 13.4 million in cap space.

2. Edmonton is not spending Puljujarvi and a 2nd on Connor Brown.

3. Klefbom will be on LTIR for the remainder of his contract.


1. 13.4 for us is 5 for teams that can actually spend to the league cap. Sens have an internal cap.
2. you undervalue Brown
3. yes, but those are dollars that still need to be paid and EDM is in a cap crunch. Less money spent total is better in their situation, might have a buy out coming too
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May 28, 2022 at 5:10 p.m.
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Quoting: Julesens
peep your cap situation

Peep LTIR.
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May 28, 2022 at 5:12 p.m.
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Peep LTIR.


see: real dollars spent
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May 28, 2022 at 5:13 p.m.
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see: real dollars spent

Klefbom's contract is insured and Edmonton has plenty of money anyhow. They're a top-10 team by revenue and profit.
May 28, 2022 at 5:14 p.m.
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Klefbom's contract is insured and Edmonton has plenty of money anyhow. They're a top-10 team by revenue and profit.


they have 7 mil to sign Kane, Jesse P, Yama, Kulak, McLeod, Archibald, and a G. gg good luck
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May 28, 2022 at 5:17 p.m.
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Quoting: Julesens
1. 13.4 for us is 5 for teams that can actually spend to the league cap. Sens have an internal cap.
2. you undervalue Brown
3. yes, but those are dollars that still need to be paid and EDM is in a cap crunch. Less money spent total is better in their situation, might have a buy out coming too


1. I'd rather spend a 2nd on something good instead of trying to get rid of something bad.

Zaitsev can always ride the bus with Belleville.



2. Saying I undervalue Brown means you haven't looked at any of my ACGMs where I trade him.

If anything, you undervalue Puljujarvi.



3. A contract on LTIR doesn't count towards a team's cap hit.

If it has insurance, Edmonton is paying only like 10-20% out of pocket.

Klefbom's contract has absolutely zero impact on Edmonton's cap crunch.
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May 28, 2022 at 5:17 p.m.
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they have 7 mil to sign Kane, Jesse P, Yama, Kulak, McLeod, Archibald, and a G. gg good luck

Klefbom will be on LTIR, his contract doesn't affect Edmonton's available cap. The other people already commented about this, maybe do some research on how the cap / LTIR works before replying.
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May 28, 2022 at 5:17 p.m.
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they have 7 mil to sign Kane, Jesse P, Yama, Kulak, McLeod, Archibald, and a G. gg good luck


And yet that trade does nothing to address that. Lmfao
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May 28, 2022 at 5:21 p.m.
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Klefbom will be on LTIR, his contract doesn't affect Edmonton's available cap. The other people already commented about this, maybe do some research on how the cap / LTIR works before replying.


Imagine seeing 7 mil available for 7 players and thinking you understand the cap. Basic maths.
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May 28, 2022 at 5:22 p.m.
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And yet that trade does nothing to address that. Lmfao


you get a mid 6 winger for 3.6 to run back a sick lineup. He's better than JP right now, which is the window. No one trade will fix this cap hell
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May 28, 2022 at 5:25 p.m.
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you get a mid 6 winger for 3.6 to run back a sick lineup. He's better than JP right now, which is the window. No one trade will fix this cap hell


You understand that JP comes in cheaper than that right? Just take the L on this, delete and move on.
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May 28, 2022 at 5:26 p.m.
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1. I'd rather spend a 2nd on something good instead of trying to get rid of something bad.

Zaitsev can always ride the bus with Belleville.

2. Saying I undervalue Brown means you haven't looked at any of my ACGMs where I trade him.

If anything, you undervalue Puljujarvi.



3. A contract on LTIR doesn't count towards a team's cap hit.

If it has insurance, Edmonton is paying only like 10-20% out of pocket.

Klefbom's contract has absolutely zero impact on Edmonton's cap crunch.


Zaitsev riding the bus still means OTT needs to pay him. They have no money. If he were to ride the bus, this season would've been the time, he was brutal. No I didn't check for your ACGMs lol who do you think you are? Brown is better than JP and would be excellent mid 6 depth for EDM, better than JP right now (the obvious window). LTIR - see above
May 28, 2022 at 5:28 p.m.
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You understand that JP comes in cheaper than that right? Just take the L on this, delete and move on.


Imagine making a random roster and actually being invested in it to the point you'd delete it. Grow up lol. JP's contract will be bigger than 1x3.6. Math is hard, I know, it'll be alright
May 28, 2022 at 5:29 p.m.
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Imagine making a random roster and actually being invested in it to the point you'd delete it. Grow up lol. JP's contract will be bigger than 1x3.6. Math is hard, I know, it'll be alright


Common Julesens L
May 28, 2022 at 5:30 p.m.
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Common Julesens L


oh no... you're a Laughs fan
May 28, 2022 at 5:31 p.m.
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oh no... you're a Laughs fan


At least it's not the Sens... 🤡
May 28, 2022 at 5:32 p.m.
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At least it's not the Sens... 🤡


2004.
May 28, 2022 at 5:45 p.m.
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2004.


🥱🥱 Get some new material. Quick, before your GM sells off all your good players
May 28, 2022 at 5:48 p.m.
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🥱🥱 Get some new material. Quick, before your GM sells off all your good players


Tell that to your team, it's the same hilarious story every single year. Back to Be A GM for you kiddo, maybe you'll get a round! smile
May 28, 2022 at 5:51 p.m.
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Imagine seeing 7 mil available for 7 players and thinking you understand the cap. Basic maths.


Edmonton declines the offer. Not happening.

Get a clue.
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May 28, 2022 at 5:54 p.m.
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Edmonton declines the offer. Not happening.

Get a clue.


Lol imagine this happens and your face after. Just totally bamboozled
May 28, 2022 at 5:55 p.m.
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Zaitsev riding the bus still means OTT needs to pay him. They have no money. If he were to ride the bus, this season would've been the time, he was brutal. No I didn't check for your ACGMs lol who do you think you are? Brown is better than JP and would be excellent mid 6 depth for EDM, better than JP right now (the obvious window). LTIR - see above


1. If Ottawa has no money, we would have traded Brady before we signed him.



2. I think I'm someone who's looking at a thread where the author of it is losing arguments on multiple fronts.

That would be you.



3. Connor Brown might be the better player, but he's a pending UFA next season.

Puljujarvi is an RFA under team control.
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