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How Id do it

Created by: Stadel
Initial Creation Date: May 31, 2022
Published: May 31, 2022
Team: 2022-23 Buffalo Sabres
Team Explanation
Ive made plenty of posts and teams stating ownership wont spend (which i believe to be true) but I really believe in the potential the team has and think hockey ops should try and convince them to spend just a wee bit more than they plan.

With the right analytics backed move (they have two of the smartest guys working for them) they can have a great year.

Going from Miller, Jokiharju and Fitzgerald to Zub, Carlo (I admit totally guessing value here but Ive seen there names pop up so what the heck), Kulak on the right side alone without giving up one of the better young players on the squad is massive. Should compliment the vastly improved goaltending.

And just for fun, add an under-appreciated first line talent. Sabres become a playoff threat and everybody eats bread.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Luukkonen, Ukko-Pekka1$850,000
Mangiapane, Andrew5$6,250,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Comrie, Eric2$1,750,000
DeSmith, Casey2$3,000,000
Kulak, Brett3$3,500,000
Sturm, Nico3$2,250,000
Pysyk, Mark1$1,000,000
Trades
1.
BUF
  1. Zub, Artem
Additional Details:
Zub signs 4 year 3.5-4 mil/yr extension
OTT
  1. Mittelstadt, Casey
2.
BUF
  1. Carlo, Brandon
BOS
  1. Olofsson, Victor [RFA Rights]
3.
BUF
  1. Mangiapane, Andrew [RFA Rights]
CGY
  1. Jokiharju, Henri
  2. 2022 1st round pick (VGK)
  3. 2022 4th round pick (BUF)
4.
BUF
  1. Dickinson, Jason
  2. 2023 3rd round pick (VAN)
  3. 2023 4th round pick (NYR)
VAN
  1. 2023 7th round pick (BUF)
Buyouts
  • Cody Hodgson: $791,667
  • Christian Ehrhoff: $0
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2022
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2023
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2024
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$82,500,000$64,885,000$0$3,120,000$17,615,000
Left WingCenterRight Wing
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Skinner, Jeff
$9,000,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 5
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Thompson, Tage
$1,400,000
C, RW
RFA - 1
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Tuch, Alex
$4,750,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
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Peterka, John-Jason
$855,833
RW, LW
RFA - 3
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Cozens, Dylan
$894,167
C, LW
RFA - 1
Mangiapane, Andrew
$6,250,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
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Asplund, Rasmus
$825,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
Sturm, Nico
$2,250,000
C
UFA - 3
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Quinn, Jack
$863,333
RW
RFA - 3
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Girgensons, Zemgus
$2,200,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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Krebs, Peyton
$863,333
C, LW
RFA - 2
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Okposo, Kyle
$6,000,000
RW
NTC
UFA - 1
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Bjork, Anders
$1,600,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
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Dickinson, Jason
$2,650,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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Dahlin, Rasmus
$6,000,000
LD/RD
RFA - 2
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Zub, Artem
$2,500,000
RD
UFA - 1
DeSmith, Casey
$3,000,000
G
UFA - 2
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Power, Owen
$916,667
LD
RFA - 2
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Carlo, Brandon
$4,100,000
RD
UFA - 5
Comrie, Eric
$1,750,000
G
UFA - 2
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Samuelsson, Mattias
$925,000
LD
RFA - 1
Kulak, Brett
$3,500,000
LD/RD
UFA - 4
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Pysyk, Mark
$1,000,000
RD, RW
UFA - 1

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May 31 at 12:58 a.m.
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more like krebs or cozens for carlo
May 31 at 12:59 a.m.
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more like krebs or cozens for carlo


I actually considered Krebs but, wouldn't that signal a rebuild for B's? You'd be betting everything on potential.
May 31 at 1:08 a.m.
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That’s not enough for Zub or Carlo
May 31 at 1:08 a.m.
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Quoting: csick
That’s not enough for Zub or Carlo


What would I have to add for either?

The carlo bit is surprising btw, there was a rash of ACGM teams where bruins fans were trying to get rid of him.
May 31 at 1:45 a.m.
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don’t think zub is getting moved (if anything we need another guy like zub ourselves), and if he was it would be for a helluva lot more than that.

i also doubt mangiapane gets moved, but it would have to be jokiharju + your 1st (9oa) to even get the conversation started, might even need more
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May 31 at 4:08 a.m.
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No Chance Calgary does that, maybe if it was #9 instead
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May 31 at 7:25 a.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
No Chance Calgary does that, maybe if it was #9 instead


Feels a bit greedy for a 2nd line guy.
May 31 at 7:46 a.m.
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Quoting: RoyalBlueSabres
Feels a bit greedy for a 2nd line guy.


23 5v5 goals ranks him top 20 in the league. Not to mention his excellent 2-way game. The odds of #9 being as good as him are pretty slim
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May 31 at 9:27 a.m.
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Vancouver declines - without a doubt
May 31 at 10:32 a.m.
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Quoting: Stadel
I actually considered Krebs but, wouldn't that signal a rebuild for B's? You'd be betting everything on potential.


not necessarily, Krebs could potentially play 2C for us, Having Hall and Pasta would surely speed up his development. Plus Carlo had a bit of a down year so i doubt boston sells low on him unless they are getting a young nhl C or C prospect that has 1-2C potential like krebs and cozens
May 31 at 10:35 a.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
23 5v5 goals ranks him top 20 in the league. Not to mention his excellent 2-way game. The odds of #9 being as good as him are pretty slim


I fully agree, but I priced the deal at the cost of an offer sheet, cause assuming they sign tk and jg it’s a real possibility. I’ll probably change the picks a bit but I bet If he’s dealt it’s for a lot less than 9th overall
May 31 at 10:36 a.m.
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Quoting: Dekes
not necessarily, Krebs could potentially play 2C for us, Having Hall and Pasta would surely speed up his development. Plus Carlo had a bit of a down year so i doubt boston sells low on him unless they are getting a young nhl C or C prospect that has 1-2C potential like krebs and cozens


Why do other bruins fans want rid of him for so much less? Mostly curious
May 31 at 10:37 a.m.
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Quoting: yztnuK
Vancouver declines - without a doubt


Doing them a favour the picks are lottery tickets.
May 31 at 10:38 a.m.
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Quoting: Alfie11
don’t think zub is getting moved (if anything we need another guy like zub ourselves), and if he was it would be for a helluva lot more than that.

i also doubt mangiapane gets moved, but it would have to be jokiharju + your 1st (9oa) to even get the conversation started, might even need more


Dorian pretty dumb and Calgary needs the space
May 31 at 10:41 a.m.
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I fully agree, but I priced the deal at the cost of an offer sheet, cause assuming they sign tk and jg it’s a real possibility. I’ll probably change the picks a bit but I bet If he’s dealt it’s for a lot less than 9th overall


He will 100% file for arbitration like ever RFA with arb rights does. Then there is zero offer sheet threat
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May 31 at 10:49 a.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
He will 100% file for arbitration like ever RFA with arb rights does. Then there is zero offer sheet threat

Fair enough
May 31 at 10:59 a.m.
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Quoting: Stadel
Why do other bruins fans want rid of him for so much less? Mostly curious


just being stupid because B's didn't go all the way i guess? For me if Bergeron retires everyone but Mcavoy and Swayman are untouchable, every player has a price even Pasta but you gotta expect to give up a lot because they won't come cheap.
Guys like Carlo/Pastrnak/Grzelcyk/ Debrusk could all bring in picks and prospects to really solidify our future and set us up for more cup runs later on. Even Marchand if he wanted to go compete for a cup and boston was in a rebuild I'd be okay with getting the haul we could get for him but again all the decisions heavily rely on what Bergy does
May 31 at 11:02 a.m.
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just being stupid because B's didn't go all the way i guess? For me if Bergeron retires everyone but Mcavoy and Swayman are untouchable, every player has a price even Pasta but you gotta expect to give up a lot because they won't come cheap.
Guys like Carlo/Pastrnak/Grzelcyk/ Debrusk could all bring in picks and prospects to really solidify our future and set us up for more cup runs later on. Even Marchand if he wanted to go compete for a cup and boston was in a rebuild I'd be okay with getting the haul we could get for him but again all the decisions heavily rely on what Bergy does


Yeah i figured it was reactionary but I was curious nonetheless, thanks for the input! What about Clifton?
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May 31 at 11:18 a.m.
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Dorian pretty dumb and Calgary needs the space


That's not a great answer, Zub is one of the top two way D in the league and he is a perfect compliment to Sanderson or Chabot. Maybe if you threw in the Vegas pick then there would be a bit more of a discussion.

He also signs that contract with Ottawa and probably gets more anyway.

He is also 99% not available. You could get him for the right price but it would have to be a lot.
May 31 at 2:22 p.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
23 5v5 goals ranks him top 20 in the league. Not to mention his excellent 2-way game. The odds of #9 being as good as him are pretty slim


That's all good, if I'm giving up #9 then that's all I'm giving. I would not add joki.
And in all honesty, if there was more push back I would just wait and offer sheet him and bank on next year being better than #9
May 31 at 5:28 p.m.
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Yeah i figured it was reactionary but I was curious nonetheless, thanks for the input! What about Clifton?


clifton probably like a 4th maybe a 3rd if it was TD
May 31 at 5:42 p.m.
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Dorian pretty dumb and Calgary needs the space

Dorion’s not that dumb lol, no GM is gonna give up a guy they want to keep at a position of need for a pathetic offer. And the Flames can make it work, and even if they did decide to trade Mang it would be for a LOT more than that
 
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