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Created by: BankersBox
Team: 2022-23 Chicago Blackhawks
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 1, 2022
Published: Jun. 1, 2022
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Chicago has been holding their cards close to the chest. I would assume they are more interested in taking on draft capital over players.

If they take some Cap/older players for futures. Reverse Teuvo

Try to move young D for Young F

Not all of these trades will work, just ideas.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$2,500,000
1$1,450,000
2$950,000
2$1,000,000
2$1,300,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$2,250,000
Trades
1.
2.
BOS
  1. Katchouk, Boris
Additional Details:
3 way
Boston gets Kerfoot(retained), Katchouk
Toronto gets Borgstrom, Nosek (retained)
Chicago Studnicka, Abruzze Rielly
3.
4.
CHI
  1. 2023 3rd round pick (BOS)
BOS
  1. Kerfoot, Alexander ($1,500,000 retained)
5.
CHI
  1. Murray, Matt
  2. Ostapchuk, Zack
  3. 2022 2nd round pick (OTT)
OTT
  1. Kubalik, Dominik [RFA Rights]
  2. Murphy, Connor
  3. 2022 3rd round pick (TOR)
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Recapture Fees
Buried
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2022
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2023
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2024
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$82,500,000$72,038,462$237,500$2,125,000$10,461,538

Roster

Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$6,400,000$6,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
LW, C
RFA - 2
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$2,625,000$2,625,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 1
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
C, RW
RFA - 4
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$10,500,000$10,500,000
C
NMC
UFA - 1
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$758,333$758,333
RW
RFA - 2
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$1,450,000$1,450,000
LW, C, RW
RFA - 1
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$6,375,000$6,375,000
C, LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$1,150,000$1,150,000
RW, C, LW
UFA - 2
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$800,000$800,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
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$800,000$800,000
RW, C
RFA - 2
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$800,000$800,000
LW, C
RFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RD
RFA - 1
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$9,500,000$9,500,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 8
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$916,667$916,667 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LD
RFA - 2
$2,250,000$2,250,000
G
UFA - 2
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$1,300,000$1,300,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
LD
UFA - 2
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$4,687,500$4,687,500
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
RW, C, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$975,000$975,000
LW, C
UFA - 1

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Jun. 1, 2022 at 3:50 p.m.
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I would do this
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Jun. 1, 2022 at 3:59 p.m.
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I would do this


I don't even like Kubalik very much and this is a huge W for us
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Jun. 1, 2022 at 4:04 p.m.
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Strome might not get qualified. No way Flames do this
Jun. 1, 2022 at 4:05 p.m.
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Leafs definitely decline, kerfoot is not a dump and abruzzese is a good prospect who is cheap for us to fill in on the fourth line when needed. If you want kerfoot you'd have to pay better than that.
Jun. 1, 2022 at 4:07 p.m.
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CHI
Ostapchuk, Zack
Murray, Matt
2022 2nd round pick (TBL)
OTT
Kubalik, Dominik [RFA Rights]
Murphy, Connor
2022 3rd round pick (TOR)


There’s no reason for Ottawa to do this deal. Connor Murphy is coming off a two concussion season, the second he had to be taken off on a stretcher, and Kubalik is just another bottom6 left shot winger, which Ottawa has plenty of, including Parker Kelly, the guy who hit Murphy for that second concussion.

Matt Murray also has concussion issues, but if he’s fine, he’ll play well, and if he’s not, they’ll put him on IR and let insurance pay his salary, or LTIR him if they need the cap space.

Ottawa isn’t giving up a decent prospect like Ostapchuk, and lose on a pick swap, for these players.

Ottawa says no
Jun. 1, 2022 at 4:15 p.m.
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Quoting: Gmonwy
Strome might not get qualified. No way Flames do this


Having 6 Mil off the books might help keep the band together
Jun. 1, 2022 at 4:19 p.m.
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Quoting: TheOtherAuston
Leafs definitely decline, kerfoot is not a dump and abruzzese is a good prospect who is cheap for us to fill in on the fourth line when needed. If you want kerfoot you'd have to pay better than that.


Kerfoot is still a solid player, sure not a cap dump, But Toronto has to change something.. Nosek has some grit and isnt a liability, Borgstrom could fit with the high flying offense.

Knies will play over Abruzze? hes expendable.
Jun. 1, 2022 at 4:21 p.m.
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Quoting: sensibleguy
CHI
Ostapchuk, Zack
Murray, Matt
2022 2nd round pick (TBL)
OTT
Kubalik, Dominik [RFA Rights]
Murphy, Connor
2022 3rd round pick (TOR)


There’s no reason for Ottawa to do this deal. Connor Murphy is coming off a two concussion season, the second he had to be taken off on a stretcher, and Kubalik is just another bottom6 left shot winger, which Ottawa has plenty of, including Parker Kelly, the guy who hit Murphy for that second concussion.

Matt Murray also has concussion issues, but if he’s fine, he’ll play well, and if he’s not, they’ll put him on IR and let insurance pay his salary, or LTIR him if they need the cap space.

Ottawa isn’t giving up a decent prospect like Ostapchuk, and lose on a pick swap, for these players.

Ottawa says no


If Connor Murphy is hurt it obviously changes things.
BUT
Like you said Ottawa has lots of forwards.. move on from a prospect for a top 4 d man
Jun. 1, 2022 at 4:22 p.m.
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Quoting: BankersBox
Kerfoot is still a solid player, sure not a cap dump, But Toronto has to change something.. Nosek has some grit and isnt a liability, Borgstrom could fit with the high flying offense.

Knies will play over Abruzze? hes expendable.


Knies won't be signed until the end of college season, which gives abruzzese a nearly full season to bring up his value more.

I'm not saying Nosek or borgstrom aren't decent options, but for kerfoots price, his productivity and PK ability is valued higher than what is received here.
Jun. 1, 2022 at 4:35 p.m.
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Quoting: TheOtherAuston
Knies won't be signed until the end of college season, which gives abruzzese a nearly full season to bring up his value more.

I'm not saying Nosek or borgstrom aren't decent options, but for kerfoots price, his productivity and PK ability is valued higher than what is received here.


Fair Enough.

I was looking at having appropriate players in appropriate roles. Young offensive player could fit in the bottom 6, but having a veteran with some grit while still getting a relatively young forward in return.
Stan Bowman called Borgstrom the best college player he has ever seen.. But I see what you are saying.
Jun. 1, 2022 at 4:42 p.m.
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That is not enough for Kubalik and Murphy. Murray is a cap dump. Probably serviceable as a punching bag for a couple years while our goalie prospects are developing, but not a player with any sort of positive trade value. In fact, he very much has negative trade value.
Jun. 1, 2022 at 4:45 p.m.
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That is not enough for Kubalik and Murphy. Murray is a cap dump. Probably serviceable as a punching bag for a couple years while our goalie prospects are developing, but not a player with any sort of positive trade value. In fact, he very much has negative trade value.


His positive value is that he is awful and Chicago gets a better draft pick next year. I very much like Ostapchuk
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Jun. 1, 2022 at 4:45 p.m.
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Quoting: sensibleguy
CHI
Ostapchuk, Zack
Murray, Matt
2022 2nd round pick (TBL)
OTT
Kubalik, Dominik [RFA Rights]
Murphy, Connor
2022 3rd round pick (TOR)


There’s no reason for Ottawa to do this deal. Connor Murphy is coming off a two concussion season, the second he had to be taken off on a stretcher, and Kubalik is just another bottom6 left shot winger, which Ottawa has plenty of, including Parker Kelly, the guy who hit Murphy for that second concussion.

Matt Murray also has concussion issues, but if he’s fine, he’ll play well, and if he’s not, they’ll put him on IR and let insurance pay his salary, or LTIR him if they need the cap space.

Ottawa isn’t giving up a decent prospect like Ostapchuk, and lose on a pick swap, for these players.

Ottawa says no


This is a home run for Ottawa. Kubalik and a 3rd for Ostachuk and a second is a bit high of a price to pay for Ottawa considering the rumours about Chicago not qualifying him, but Murphy's contract is not near as bad as Murray's. Murphy has positive trade value. Murray on the other hand, not even close.
Jun. 1, 2022 at 4:46 p.m.
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Quoting: BankersBox
If Connor Murphy is hurt it obviously changes things.
BUT
Like you said Ottawa has lots of forwards.. move on from a prospect for a top 4 d man


I'm another Sens fan who'd be interested in this deal but Murphy's concussion issues are a concern

What would be the price for Patrick Kane? No retention

Tkachuk - Norris - Kane
Formenton - Stutzle - Batherson

I wouldn't mind that Top-6

Quoting: BankersBox
His positive value is that he is awful and Chicago gets a better draft pick next year. I very much like Ostapchuk


I suggest to not acquire him then. When healthy, he can still go long stretches with a 0.930 SV%, stealing games left and right. Nobody is trading for him anyway, he has probably been the most injury prone NHL player during the last 4 seasons
Jun. 1, 2022 at 4:49 p.m.
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I'm another Sens fan who'd be interested in this deal but Murphy's concussion issues are a concern

What would be the price for Patrick Kane? No retention

Tkachuk - Norris - Kane
Formenton - Stutzle - Batherson
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I wouldn't mind that Top-6


Chicago needs Forwards, a Kane deal might start with a Batherson or a Norris. Two fan favourites but it takes assets to get assets

Batherson 7OA?
Jun. 1, 2022 at 4:51 p.m.
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His positive value is that he is awful and Chicago gets a better draft pick next year. I very much like Ostapchuk


For sure. I like Ostapchuk too. But he doesn't make up for Murray's negative value AND CHI sending them a 3rd on top of it. Even without the 3rd going to OTT it isn't enough.
Jun. 1, 2022 at 4:54 p.m.
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For sure. I like Ostapchuk too. But he doesn't make up for that negative value AND CHI sending them a 3rd on top of it. Even without the 3rd going to OTT it isn't enough.


Maybe you are right.

This post was intended to make Chicago worse in the short term. Hopefully hit big with a prospect or two while opening a spot on the blue line
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Jun. 1, 2022 at 4:56 p.m.
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Maybe you are right.

This post was intended to make Chicago worse in the short term. Hopefully hit big with a prospect of two while opening a spot on the blue line


I totally feel you there. I just don't think we need to sacrifice trade value in order to get worse.
Jun. 1, 2022 at 6:41 p.m.
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Don't like the OTT deal at all. Flames would be reluctant to part with Pelletier so I don't see that happening and the 3 team deal doesn't do a huge amount for CHI other than improve their chances of a better pick in this years draft.
Jun. 1, 2022 at 10:02 p.m.
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Quoting: Aussie_Blackhawk
Don't like the OTT deal at all. Flames would be reluctant to part with Pelletier so I don't see that happening and the 3 team deal doesn't do a huge amount for CHI other than improve their chances of a better pick in this years draft.


You want better prospects? or take on different cap dumps?

The idea of this post was to be worse this year, a top 5 pick in next years draft would be huge.

Calgary needs to move cap, I sent a replacement centre and I didn’t even ask for their top prospect.

Sure the three way trade is a lot of moving around and I burn both retention slots. I just like the idea of taking cap, retaining and then flipping that same guy.
Jun. 1, 2022 at 10:55 p.m.
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You want better prospects? or take on different cap dumps?

The idea of this post was to be worse this year, a top 5 pick in next years draft would be huge.

Calgary needs to move cap, I sent a replacement centre and I didn’t even ask for their top prospect.

Sure the three way trade is a lot of moving around and I burn both retention slots. I just like the idea of taking cap, retaining and then flipping that same guy.


Murphy costs a 1st + , though obviously the higher that pick is the less the + becomes or can be completely negated.
Kubalik, the cost would vary though I think for his rights a mid-late 3rd probably gets it done.
The addition of the 3rd is completely irrelevant as Murray is going to cost at least that 2nd to move.
Concluding I would think The package would need to be constructed differently. Preference would be for no cap dumps in any Murphy deal and he's not being shopped as such.

Yes, we got the 6th worst record this year, I don't see that improving.

Who would you suggest is Calgary's top prospect? Pelletier could be argued as being the top although Coronato could now be.

Just feels like CHI is having to do a lot of the legwork and then do the retention. When thinking about flipping those acquired assets, the value comes in retaining salary at the TDL also.
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Jun. 1, 2022 at 11:17 p.m.
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I would be open to giving Strome a shot at 2C if Monahan is on his way out but there is no chance he returns a prospect as good as Pelletier
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Jun. 2, 2022 at 9:44 a.m.
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Chicago needs Forwards, a Kane deal might start with a Batherson or a Norris. Two fan favourites but it takes assets to get assets

Batherson 7OA?


Batherson + 7OA for Kane?

That would be turned down right away, even without the 7th OA pick. Kane is a legend but that move would hurt the Sens deeply. Kane turns on 34 y/o at the beginning of next season, makes 10.5 M$ and is UFA at the end of the campaign. Batherson just turned 24 y/o and is signed 5 more years under 5 M$ a season...

Norris was on pace for 43 goals this season and is already pretty good 2-way center at 22 y/o. Same story, Ottawa doesn't even consider

Didn't know the price expectation would be that much for Kane, so I'd be looking somewhere else. So far what interests me the most is Wild fans proposal : Fiala for 7th OA + Jarventie
 
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