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Lateral moves

Created by: ReelBigFan
Team: 2022-23 Philadelphia Flyers
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 4, 2022
Published: Jun. 5, 2022
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
Trading players with similar stats and advanced stats to new teams for a change of scenery. Trying not to do more than 1 year age difference or 1 year difference on the Contacts.
Trades
1.
ARI
  1. Provorov, Ivan ($1,000,000 retained)
Additional Details:
Evening out the salary, other than that these two guys have been nearly identical in multiple cats and advanced cats. I know people obviously value one more than the other, but just basing this off the facts
2.
DET
  1. Konecny, Travis
Additional Details:
Similar players, similar contract, contract length makes me think TK gains more value in this deal but that’s not really what this post is about
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2022
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2023
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2024
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
20$82,500,000$69,035,012$295,000$2,387,500$13,464,988
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 6
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$7,750,000$7,750,000
C
NMC
UFA - 8
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$5,875,000$5,875,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$7,000,000$7,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$3,571,429$3,571,429
C
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$2,375,000$2,375,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
C, LW
RFA - 1
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
C, LW
UFA - 4
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
RW
RFA - 2
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
LW
UFA - 2
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$750,000$750,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$4,675,000$4,675,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$4,600,000$4,600,000
LD/RD
UFA - 3
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$3,979,000$3,979,000
G
RFA - 2
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$6,250,000$6,250,000
RD
UFA - 5
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$175,000$175K)
G
UFA - 2
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$880,833$880,833 (Performance Bonus$725,000$725K)
LD/RD
RFA - 1
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$5,100,000$5,100,000
RD
UFA - 5
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$775,000$775,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
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$883,750$883,750 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RD
RFA - 1

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Jun. 5, 2022 at 3:55 p.m.
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Bertuzzi >> Konecny
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Jun. 5, 2022 at 3:58 p.m.
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Quoting: Shibbal18
Bertuzzi >> Konecny


Just going on paper here.. stats, advanced stats, contract, etc… pretty close everywhere
Jun. 5, 2022 at 4:03 p.m.
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Quoting: ReelBigFan
Just going on paper here.. stats, advanced stats, contract, etc… pretty close everywhere


Bertuzzi had 35 goals over the last 77
Konecny had 16 in 79
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Jun. 5, 2022 at 4:27 p.m.
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Quoting: Shibbal18
Bertuzzi had 35 goals over the last 77
Konecny had 16 in 79

Goals are not the only stat in hockey. They have a career.68 and .67 ppg average
Jun. 5, 2022 at 4:38 p.m.
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Goals are not the only stat in hockey. They have a career.68 and .67 ppg average


Goals are the most important stat for forwards. Especially when the difference is 20
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Jun. 5, 2022 at 4:46 p.m.
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Goals are the most important stat for forwards. Especially when the difference is 20


In that case, Flyers trade JVR for Mittlestadt JVR is a 25 goal scorer, we will even retain salary
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Jun. 5, 2022 at 5:31 p.m.
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Quoting: Shibbal18
Goals are the most important stat for forwards. Especially when the difference is 20


Would you rather have a 100 point player with 12 goals or a 50 point player with 35?
Jun. 5, 2022 at 5:39 p.m.
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I think Bertuzzi is trending up where Konecny has tended slightly down or already peaked. I'm not opposed to a Konecny trade but it would likely be got futures like two seconds or something.
Jun. 5, 2022 at 5:42 p.m.
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Would you rather have a 100 point player with 12 goals or a 50 point player with 35?


How does that apply? Konecny had 52 points. I don't think anyone in the NHL has every put up 100pts with only 12 goals.

Detroit declines.
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Jun. 5, 2022 at 6:06 p.m.
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Konecny is a C, but his 2-way game kinda fell apart this year. It's difficult to compare TK to Bert, as Cs have more responsibility on the D side than wingers do (unless you are playing the left wing lock). If TK picks up the 2-way game again next year, his value would be higher than Bert. Bert plays a gritter game though (Philly style) that is well built for the playoffs, but PHI is nowhere near the playoffs.

I don't think either team would entertain this type of trade.
Jun. 5, 2022 at 6:54 p.m.
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Quoting: ReelBigFan
In that case, Flyers trade JVR for Mittlestadt JVR is a 25 goal scorer, we will even retain salary


Retain salary the majority of Sabre fans would take it lol
Jun. 5, 2022 at 6:55 p.m.
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Would you rather have a 100 point player with 12 goals or a 50 point player with 35?


50 point player. If the rest of his line is putting up 88 goals his 12 is even worse looking
Jun. 6, 2022 at 9:23 p.m.
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Can Bertuzzi even play in Canada?
 
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