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Will he walk for nothing

Created by: Birtle34
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 6, 2022
Published: Jun. 6, 2022
Team: 2022-23 Toronto Maple Leafs
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TOR
  1. Chychrun, Jakob
  2. Crouse, Lawson [RFA Rights]
  3. Keller, Clayton
  4. Schmaltz, Nick
  5. Vejmelka, Karel
ARI
  1. Matthews, Auston
  2. Mrázek, Petr
  3. Muzzin, Jake
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2022
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2023
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2024
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
18$82,500,000$73,915,366$212,500$0$8,584,634
Left WingCenterRight Wing
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Keller, Clayton
$7,150,000
RW, LW
UFA - 6
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Tavares, John
$11,000,000
C
NMC
UFA - 3
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Marner, Mitchell
$10,903,000
RW
UFA - 3
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Bunting, Michael
$950,000
LW
UFA - 1
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Schmaltz, Nick
$5,850,000
C, RW
UFA - 4
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Nylander, William
$6,962,366
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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Clifford, Kyle
$762,500
LW
UFA - 2
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Kerfoot, Alexander
$3,500,000
LW, C
NTC
UFA - 1
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Kämpf, David
$1,500,000
C
UFA - 1
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Abruzzese, Nick
$850,000
C
RFA - 1
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Simmonds, Wayne
$900,000
RW, LW
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UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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Rielly, Morgan
$7,500,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 8
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Chychrun, Jakob
$4,600,000
LD/RD
UFA - 3
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Vejmelka, Karel
$2,725,000
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UFA - 3
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Brodie, TJ
$5,000,000
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UFA - 2
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Holl, Justin
$2,000,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 1
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Källgren, Erik
$750,000
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RFA - 1
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Giordano, Mark
$800,000
LD
UFA - 2

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Jun. 6 at 8:54 a.m.
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I really don't see Matthews leaving Toronto for Arizona. I think he re-signs in Toronto or goes to another big Canadian or (honestly more likely) American market. Don't think he goes to a small market, even if it's home... he seems to enjoy the spotlight.
Jun. 6 at 8:56 a.m.
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insert wolf of wall street scene
Jun. 6 at 9:01 a.m.
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I really don't see Matthews leaving Toronto for Arizona. I think he re-signs in Toronto or goes to another big Canadian or (honestly more likely) American market. Don't think he goes to a small market, even if it's home... he seems to enjoy the spotlight.

Seen a leafs game in Arizona, and it was probably 10-1 Mathews sweaters to anything else. Will be interesting times for sure, kopitar contract I believe is up similar timing, not sure who else, tkachuk/laine/Dubois was his draft class, but none of them will be for sure free agents by then. Rangers/Vegas probably up against cap, so might not be a ton of teams that could pull it off. Could see Arizona doing everything possible for him.
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Jun. 6 at 9:20 a.m.
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Yeah, he's tonna go home just like every single ufa star. Oh wait, that has happened literally once in living memory and isnt a thing at all.
I mean, why would he go to Arizona? It doesn't pass any logical evaluation. He's gonna sign in Toronto, the team that drafts their stars keeps their stars 99.9999999% of the time
Jun. 6 at 9:21 a.m.
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Seen a leafs game in Arizona, and it was probably 10-1 Mathews sweaters to anything else. Will be interesting times for sure, kopitar contract I believe is up similar timing, not sure who else, tkachuk/laine/Dubois was his draft class, but none of them will be for sure free agents by then. Rangers/Vegas probably up against cap, so might not be a ton of teams that could pull it off. Could see Arizona doing everything possible for him.


And why would he want to go there?
Jun. 6 at 9:26 a.m.
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And why would he want to go there?


Family, sun, escape the scrutiny, less income tax. Home is home, dreamed of donning a coyotes sweater. House that Mathews built possibly in the new complex in the planning stages. Does he not go home every off-season?
Jun. 6 at 9:45 a.m.
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Family, sun, escape the scrutiny, less income tax. Home is home, dreamed of donning a coyotes sweater. House that Mathews built possibly in the new complex in the planning stages. Does he not go home every off-season?


So he's gonna go play for a team that is currently playing in a college arena and only exists on life support because bettman cant let it go?
And if family and dreams of playing for the home town team are big deals then why does that pretty much never happen?
If sun and taxes are big deals then how do any teams that get snow or even lots of rain keep players?
Matthews isnt going to Arizona any more than any other superstar is gonna go home.
Jun. 6 at 9:51 a.m.
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So he's gonna go play for a team that is currently playing in a college arena and only exists on life support because bettman cant let it go?
And if family and dreams of playing for the home town team are big deals then why does that pretty much never happen?
If sun and taxes are big deals then how do any teams that get snow or even lots of rain keep players?
Matthews isnt going to Arizona any more than any other superstar is gonna go home.


I don’t know Mathews to comment any further, but I wouldn’t bet against it.
Jun. 6 at 9:55 a.m.
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I don’t know Mathews to comment any further, but I wouldn’t bet against it.


Why not? Name one other star player than tavares who left the team that drafted and developed them on their own accord while still being in their prime years.
Jun. 6 at 10:02 a.m.
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Why not? Name one other star player than tavares who left the team that drafted and developed them on their own accord while still being in their prime years.

Selanne, kariya, hull, Gretzky, messier, Bobby hull, lindros, shanahan, bobrovsky, nash, jagr, iginla roberts klatt pisani koivu
Jun. 6 at 10:11 a.m.
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Why not? Name one other star player than tavares who left the team that drafted and developed them on their own accord while still being in their prime years.

Fleury, Richards,
Jun. 6 at 10:20 a.m.
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Selanne, kariya, hull, Gretzky, messier, Bobby hull, lindros, shanahan, bobrovsky, nash, jagr, iginla roberts klatt pisani koivu


Selannne -traded
Karia - well paat prime
Hull- traded
Gretzkey- traded
Messier- traded
Bobby hull- went to a totally different league
Shanahan- wasnt even a star, let alone super star
Bobrovsky- traded
Nash-traded
Jagr-trades
Iginla-traded
Roberts- retired due to injury before getting healthy and making a comeback after a year off
Klatt/pisani- uh, wut?
Koivu-was never a star player and well past prime when he moved on
Anyone else?
Jun. 6 at 10:21 a.m.
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Fleury, Richards,


Maf-taken in thr expansion draft
Richards- traded
Jun. 6 at 10:21 a.m.
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Maf-taken in thr expansion draft
Richards- traded


Theo and brad
Jun. 6 at 10:24 a.m.
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Selannne -traded
Karia - well paat prime
Hull- traded
Gretzkey- traded
Messier- traded
Bobby hull- went to a totally different league
Shanahan- wasnt even a star, let alone super star
Bobrovsky- traded
Nash-traded
Jagr-trades
Iginla-traded
Roberts- retired due to injury before getting healthy and making a comeback after a year off
Klatt/pisani- uh, wut?
Koivu-was never a star player and well past prime when he moved on
Anyone else?

Messier to van, Gretzky to rangers, shanahan offer sheet for stevens in compensation, brad Richards to rangers, Theo fleury to rangers,
Jun. 6 at 10:24 a.m.
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Theo and brad


Both were traded
Jun. 6 at 10:24 a.m.
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Messier to van, Gretzky to rangers, shanahan offer sheet for stevens in compensation, brad Richards to rangers, Theo fleury to rangers,


So you didnt read the part about leaving the team that drafted and developed them?
Jun. 6 at 10:25 a.m.
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Selannne -traded
Karia - well paat prime
Hull- traded
Gretzkey- traded
Messier- traded
Bobby hull- went to a totally different league
Shanahan- wasnt even a star, let alone super star
Bobrovsky- traded
Nash-traded
Jagr-trades
Iginla-traded
Roberts- retired due to injury before getting healthy and making a comeback after a year off
Klatt/pisani- uh, wut?
Koivu-was never a star player and well past prime when he moved on
Anyone else?

Kariya and selanne to colorado,
Jun. 6 at 10:26 a.m.
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Both were traded


Google is free, 3 years 18 million for Theo, I forget brads number.
Jun. 6 at 10:26 a.m.
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Kariya and selanne to colorado,


After they were traded
Jun. 6 at 10:27 a.m.
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Google is free, 3 years 18 million for Theo, I forget brads number.


So is this site, you can read the criteria i set out right up there
Jun. 6 at 10:36 a.m.
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So is this site, you can read the criteria i set out right up there


Ya I missed reading it all, Paul Kariya would be my answer though, but ya not a lot go that route.
Jun. 6 at 11:23 a.m.
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Auston Matthews isn't going to that dumpster fire team in Arizona, And neither is Jake Muzzin.
 
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