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Scheifele

Created by: Bruins1054_gmb
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 6, 2022
Published: Jun. 6, 2022
Team: 2022-23 Boston Bruins
Description
I already understand that Bruins fans will tell me it's too much and that Scheifele doesn't fit the Bruins mold, and Jets fans will say the deal doesn't happen without Carlo or Lysell.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Ahcan, Jack2$800,000
Filipe, Matt1$750,000
Keyser, Kyle2$762,500
Wolff, Nick1$750,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Bergeron, Patrice1$4,000,000
Brown, Joshua1$900,000
Frödén, Jesper1$750,000
Lewington, Tyler1$750,000
Deslauriers, Nicolas3$1,750,000
Trades
1.
BOS
  1. Scheifele, Mark
WPG
  1. DeBrusk, Jake
  2. Studnicka, Jack [RFA Rights]
  3. 2022 2nd round pick (BOS)
  4. 2023 1st round pick (BOS)
2.
BOS
  1. 2023 4th round pick (NYI)
  2. 2023 7th round pick (NYI)
Additional Details:
Discount price due to Reilly's injury
NYI
  1. Reilly, Mike
Buyouts
  • Nick Foligno: $1,933,334
Buried
  • Chris Wagner: $225,000 ($1,350,000)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2022
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2023
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2024
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$82,500,000$66,771,251$0$150,000$15,728,749

Roster

Left WingCentreRight Wing
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Hall, Taylor
$6,000,000
LW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 3
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Scheifele, Mark
$6,125,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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Pastrnak, David
$6,666,667
RW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
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Haula, Erik
$2,375,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
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Bergeron, Patrice
$4,000,000
C
UFA - 1
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Smith, Craig
$3,100,000
RW, C
UFA - 1
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Frederic, Trent
$1,050,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
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Coyle, Charlie
$5,250,000
C, RW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
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McLaughlin, Marc
$883,750
C
RFA - 1
Deslauriers, Nicolas
$1,750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 4
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Nosek, Tomas
$1,750,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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Steen, Oskar
$800,000
C, RW
RFA - 2
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Koppanen, Joona
$750,000
LW, C
RFA - 1
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Frödén, Jesper
$750,000
RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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Lindholm, Hampus
$6,500,000
LD
NTC, NMC
UFA - 8
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Carlo, Brandon
$4,100,000
RD
UFA - 5
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Swayman, Jeremy
$925,000
G
RFA - 1
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Forbort, Derek
$3,000,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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Clifton, Connor
$1,000,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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Ullmark, Linus
$5,000,000
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NMC
UFA - 3
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Zboril, Jakub
$1,137,500
LD/RD
UFA - 2
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Brown, Joshua
$900,000
RD
UFA - 2
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Ahcan, Jack
$800,000
LD
RFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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McAvoy, Charlie
$9,500,000
RD
UFA - 8
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Marchand, Brad
$6,125,000
LW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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Grzelcyk, Matt
$3,687,500
LD
UFA - 2

Special Teams

Power Play 1
Pastrnak, D.
Bergeron, P.
Hall, T.
Scheifele, M.
Lindholm, H.
Power Play 2
Haula, E.
Coyle, C.
Smith, C.
Zboril, J.
Clifton, C.
Penalty Kill 1
Bergeron, P.
Haula, E.
Forbort, D.
Carlo, B.
Penalty Kill 2
Nosek, T.
Steen, O.
Lindholm, H.
Brown, J.

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Jun. 6, 2022 at 12:44 p.m.
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I just don’t see why the Jets would trade a 1C for a likely late 1st, middle 6 winger who requested a trade, a 2nd, and a meh prospect
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Jun. 6, 2022 at 12:51 p.m.
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what happens when those guys come off ltir
Jun. 6, 2022 at 12:56 p.m.
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Quoting: vr1995
what happens when those guys come off ltir


Ask Vegas and Tampa Bay GMs.
Jun. 6, 2022 at 12:57 p.m.
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I think that’s a very fair pricetag for him, but i do think that Boston should look elsewhere. They don’t tend to like guys that disregard defensive responsibility.
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Jun. 6, 2022 at 12:57 p.m.
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what happens when those guys come off ltir


They're royally screwed cap wise.
Jun. 6, 2022 at 12:58 p.m.
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Winnipeg declines, they can get a far better offer than this for Mark Scheifele.
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Jun. 6, 2022 at 12:58 p.m.
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Quoting: Bruins1054_gmb
Ask Vegas and Tampa Bay GMs.


im asking you though, banking on injuries i guess
Jun. 6, 2022 at 1:05 p.m.
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I just don’t see why the Jets would trade a 1C for a likely late 1st, middle 6 winger who requested a trade, a 2nd, and a meh prospect

Well, few things here:
1. The trade request doesn’t matter in terms of value. Sweeney has made it clear that he’s not shipping him out if he doesn’t like the return, debrusk signed an extension and said he was okay staying there for the duration of it. It’s a non factor.
2. What more would they get? For the most part i agree with your assessment of hte package, though I would definitely call debrusk a top six winger rather than a middle six winger. Guys in their late 20s don’t get these transformative packages. First, second, top six 25 year old and a prospect is fine. You’re going to struggle to find instances of more being shipped out.
3. Is he really a number 1C? I guess it depends on the definition. He’s a good player, and ya, he puts up points, but holy hell is he a liability defensively.
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Jun. 6, 2022 at 1:06 p.m.
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Quoting: vr1995
what happens when those guys come off ltir

It actually fits really well. All are expected to miss at least 25% of the season. Plenty of room.
Jun. 6, 2022 at 1:14 p.m.
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Quoting: TampaBayLightning22
Winnipeg declines, they can get a far better offer than this for Mark Scheifele.


"Far better" would be surprising given that he's close to 30 and a liability defensively.
Jun. 6, 2022 at 1:16 p.m.
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The Jets aren't trading Scheifele for a pile of nothing. The only piece with any significant value is the late first and that isn't close to enough.
Jun. 6, 2022 at 1:17 p.m.
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im asking you though, banking on injuries i

Waiving Brown and Ahcan and sending Mclaughlin down would require at most an additional $2M to clear.
Jun. 6, 2022 at 1:19 p.m.
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The Jets aren't trading Scheifele for a pile of nothing. The only piece with any significant value is the late first and that isn't close to enough.


Already acknowledged that Jets fans would say something like that in the description. I think Jets fans overestimate what the return would be.
Jun. 6, 2022 at 1:19 p.m.
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Quoting: Bruins1054_gmb
"Far better" would be surprising given that he's close to 30 and a liability defensively.


He still gets a better offer than DeBrusk, Studnicka and a late 1st and 2nd round pick.
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Jun. 6, 2022 at 1:19 p.m.
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Quoting: TampaBayLightning22
They're royally screwed cap wise.


How? Under the cap by a country mile.
Jun. 6, 2022 at 1:20 p.m.
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Quoting: TampaBayLightning22
He still gets a better offer than Debrusk, Studnicka and a late 1st and 2nd round pick.

Find an instance of a similar player getting moved for more than that. Anyone will do.
Jun. 6, 2022 at 1:20 p.m.
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Quoting: vr1995
im asking you though, banking on injuries i guess

They already have the injuries….
Jun. 6, 2022 at 1:24 p.m.
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Quoting: Bruins1054_gmb
Already acknowledged that Jets fans would say something like that in the description. I think Jets fans overestimate what the return would be.


I’m not a jets fan. Don’t see how that gets a 1C with term. Not close really.
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Jun. 6, 2022 at 1:26 p.m.
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I’m not a jets fan. Don’t see how that gets a 1C with term. Not close really.


Either way. Statement still stands, minus the Jets fan.
Jun. 6, 2022 at 1:31 p.m.
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Quoting: Bruins1054_gmb
Already acknowledged that Jets fans would say something like that in the description. I think Jets fans overestimate what the return would be.


It's more like Bruins fans overestimate what a player that has requested a trade and a bust will get them. All fans think they can get an impact player for their disappointing throw away scraps though, so you're not alone.
Jun. 6, 2022 at 1:33 p.m.
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How? Under the cap by a country mile.


Really? Not at that current cap space you're not. $15,728,749- Charlie McAvoy $9,500,000+Brad Marchand $6,125,000 and Matt Grzelcyk $3,687,500 = 19,312,500

$15,728,749-19,312,500= -$3,583,751

You have a deficit of $3,583,751 when all are off LTIR That's hardly under the cap ny a country mile
Jun. 6, 2022 at 1:39 p.m.
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Quoting: TampaBayLightning22
Really? Not at that current cap space you're not. $15,728,749- Charlie McAvoy $9,500,000+Brad Marchand $6,125,000 and Matt Grzelcyk $3,687,500 = 19,312,500

$15,728,749-19,312,500= -$3,583,751

You have a deficit of $3,583,751 when all are off LTIR That's hardly under the cap ny a country mile


They’re all expected to miss a quarter of the season+. Multiply that 19M number by .75 an try again.
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Jun. 6, 2022 at 1:40 p.m.
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It's more like Bruins fans overestimate what a player that has requested a trade and a bust will get them. All fans think they can get an impact player for their disappointing throw away scraps though, so you're not alone.


Look at the Eichel trade. This proposal is very similar and Eichel had more value than Scheifele.
Jun. 6, 2022 at 1:42 p.m.
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Really? Not at that current cap space you're not. $15,728,749- Charlie McAvoy $9,500,000+Brad Marchand $6,125,000 and Matt Grzelcyk $3,687,500 = 19,312,500

$15,728,749-19,312,500= -$3,583,751

You have a deficit of $3,583,751 when all are off LTIR That's hardly under the cap ny a country mile


You're also not taking into consideration the cap hits of players that will be removed from the roster after those 3 players return.
Jun. 6, 2022 at 1:46 p.m.
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Quoting: CMcAvoy73
They’re all expected to miss a quarter of the season+. Multiply that 19M number by .75 an try again.


On what planet? They're all 6 month recovery times. I don't know about you. but that comes to late November early December hardly 1/4 of the season.

And FYI that only eats real money not the cap hit which still remains the same.
 
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