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Weaponizing the cap

Created by: Jah1722
Team: 2022-23 Anaheim Ducks
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 4, 2022
Published: Jun. 6, 2022
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VGK trade: VGK give Roy to take Dadonov (they want to re-sign Smith) and get back cheap depth with minimal value.

TOR trade: Dadonov at 2.5M has some solid value. Sandin’s NHL spot is in question so he gets moved with cap for a good player and a decent backup. Dadonov would allow Kerfoot to move to the 3rd line with Kampf and Ilya/Engvall/Kase to get that high end 3rd line teams want in the playoffs.

PHI trade: If PHI signs Johnny G they’ll have to open up some cap space. Ducks give some value for Konecny but not full value for taking most of JVR cap. *If PHI doesn’t sign Johnny then ducks could play Perreault and sign a depth guy for insurance.

Ducks will have ~30M to re-sign Zegras, Terry, and Drysdale plus fill out the roster. There will also be a few prospects that could be ready to make the full time jump one 23-24.
Free Agent Signings
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1$950,000
3$3,333,333
4$2,850,000
1$950,000
1$1,000,000
4$2,850,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$875,000
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PHI
  1. Jones, Max
  2. 2023 2nd round pick (BOS)
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2022
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2023
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2024
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23$82,500,000$67,396,250$0$4,200,000$15,103,750
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$3,333,333$3,333,333
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
C, LW
RFA - 1
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$1,450,000$1,450,000
RW
UFA - 1
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
C, LW
RFA - 3
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$1,456,250$1,456,250
LW, C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 3
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$2,037,500$2,037,500
LW
RFA - 1
$2,850,000$2,850,000
C, RW
UFA - 5
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$2,850,000$2,850,000
C, LW
RFA - 2
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$5,250,000$5,250,000
RW, LW
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UFA - 2
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$425,000$425,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
LD/RD
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UFA - 4
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RD
RFA - 1
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$6,400,000$6,400,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 5
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$950,000$950,000
LD/RD
RFA - 2
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$3,900,000$3,900,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
$1,000,000$1,000,000
LD
UFA - 2
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$3,800,000$3,800,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$875,000$875,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
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$950,000$950,000
LD
UFA - 1

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Jun. 6, 2022 at 6:29 p.m.
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If the Flyers don't have to retain they might consider it
Jun. 6, 2022 at 6:42 p.m.
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Quoting: Random2152
Sandins value is A LOT higher than dadonov lmao.
His value is roughly equivalent to what you might ask for Drysdale, except sandin has actually been good in the nhl while we are still waiting in dry to develop.

And again, sandin isn't blocked. That's just media hype and your imagination. The odd man out is elsewhere


I agreed with you until you brought up Drysdale..

Drysdale literally just had 32 pts in 81 games as a 19 year old, and has played 17 more NHL games than sandin.. What are you talking about with Sandin has proven himself in NHL and we're waiting on dry?

Drysdale's value >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sandin's value.
Jun. 6, 2022 at 6:43 p.m.
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I agreed with you until you brought up Drysdale..

Drysdale literally just had 32 pts in 81 games as a 19 year old, and has played 17 more NHL games than sandin.. What are you talking about with Sandin has proven himself in NHL and we're waiting on dry?

Drysdale's value >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sandin's value.


If you eval dmen with points you are so far off the mark it isn't even funny
Jun. 6, 2022 at 6:46 p.m.
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Quoting: Random2152
If you eval dmen with points you are so far off the mark it isn't even funny


It absolutely is one of many useful metrics though? You're completely off base if you think Sandin has proven himself in the NHL and everyone is "waiting on dry".

Leafs would never trade Sandin for Dadonov at 50%, but Sandin has top 4 potential while Drysdale has top pair potential, maybe even a #1.

Like, you were completely right until you went a little crazy there at the end.
Jun. 6, 2022 at 6:52 p.m.
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Quoting: YesThisIsFlo
It absolutely is one of many useful metrics though?


No. It's not ideal for forwards due to having better methods available and near useless for defencemen due to a Ds role (even an OFD).

So don't use it. I like dry, if ANH don't ruin him he has the talent to be great. He isn't here yet.

More to this, don't let draft pedigree influence your upside projections. With what we have seen so far comparing the 2 is flattering to dry, not an insult at this point.
Jun. 6, 2022 at 6:56 p.m.
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No. It's not ideal for forwards due to having better methods available and near useless for defencemen due to a Ds role (even an OFD).

So don't use it. I like dry, if ANH don't ruin him he has the talent to be great. He isn't here yet



... You think a defenseman's ability to produce points is nearly useless?

And you think Sandin, who has averaged 16 minutes in 88 career games "has actually been good in the nhl"

While for Drysdale, who has clocked 20 minutes in 105 career games, we are "still waiting in dry to develop"?

I think you're completely out to lunch. Anaheim laughs their faces off if you offered Sandin for Drysdale 1 for 1, which I assume you think is fair since you said they have roughly equal value.
Jun. 6, 2022 at 6:57 p.m.
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... You think a defenseman's ability to produce points is nearly useless?


In terms of talent evaluation, yes. And it is objectively.

Also lol at the "he plays lots so he must be good" argument. That's been disproven so many times I won't even go into it. If you want I'll post the actual numbers. I'm on mobile so it's a pain which is why I haven't already but for you I'll make the effort 😘 (if you want)
Jun. 6, 2022 at 7:10 p.m.
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In terms of talent evaluation, yes. And it is objectively.

Also lol at the "he plays lots so he must be good" argument. That's been disproven so many times I won't even go into it. If you want I'll post the actual numbers


No, I know the numbers. Sandin has had quite a positive impact when on the ice even though he plays much easier minutes and opponents, while Drysdale has had a slightly negative impact playing 2nd pair minutes against middle-of-the-lineup opponents.

But I'm talking about *your* evaluation methods (or at least communication), they're whack.

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His value is roughly equivalent to what you might ask for Drysdale, except sandin has actually been good in the nhl while we are still waiting in dry to develop.


You think you have an accurate read on a guy who's played 1400 career minutes, but seem to write off a guy with 2100 career minutes as a non-impact? You make it sound like Sandin is the proven NHLer and Drysdale has never played a game lol.

Anyways, if you think they're equal value, you're bonkers and probably haven't watched him play more than 2 games. And that's coming from a guy who thinks Sandin could be a very solid defensive top 4 dman in the future.
Jun. 6, 2022 at 7:10 p.m.
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Quoting: Random2152
Sandins value is A LOT higher than dadonov lmao.
His value is roughly equivalent to what you might ask for Drysdale, except sandin has actually been good in the nhl while we are still waiting in dry to develop.

And again, sandin isn't blocked. That's just media hype and your imagination. The odd man out is elsewhere


Sandin’s value isn’t equivalent to Drysdale’s. Drysdale just turned 20, plays vs top lines and isn’t sheltered and while he struggled his value is still higher within the NHL. Also he’s right handed.

But yes Sandin is worth more than Dadonov I never said he wasn’t but your ignoring the rest of the deal. Even tho Dadonov is a cap dump to VGK he’s still a quality player and getting him at 2.5M increases his value. Put him in the middle 6 lengthens the lineup quite a bit. Also TOR gets out from 3 more years of Mrazek.

It’s a cap dump deal while getting a quality player in return for TOR.

Muzzin ideally would be the odd man out but his contract health and NTC makes that difficult.
Jun. 6, 2022 at 7:11 p.m.
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If the Flyers don't have to retain they might consider it


They wouldn’t have to. I just put it in so if ANA wanted to move him at TDL 50% retained by then would make him easier to move.
Jun. 6, 2022 at 7:31 p.m.
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No, I know the numbers. Sandin has had quite a positive impact when on the ice even though he plays much easier minutes and opponents, while Drysdale has had a slightly negative impact playing 2nd pair minutes against middle-of-the-lineup opponents.

But I'm talking about *your* evaluation methods (or at least communication), they're whack.

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His value is roughly equivalent to what you might ask for Drysdale, except sandin has actually been good in the nhl while we are still waiting in dry to develop.


You think you have an accurate read on a guy who's played 1400 career minutes, but seem to write off a guy with 2100 career minutes as a non-impact? You make it sound like Sandin is the proven NHLer and Drysdale has never played a game lol.

Anyways, if you think they're equal value, you're bonkers and probably haven't watched him play more than 2 games. And that's coming from a guy who thinks Sandin could be a very solid defensive top 4 dman in the future.


Write off is very strong for what I said. What i did say is we are waiting for him to take off, and he hasn't as of yet. He's actually been getting filled in, in the mins he has played so far. He needs to be playing a role more like Sandin actually.

The only difference i see is a guy who hasn't popped yet and draft pedigree, but that usually only only becomes apparent to people like you with hindsight.

Just do us a favour and don't risto the poor guy. I'd like to see him actually be good at some point.

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Sandin’s value isn’t equivalent to Drysdale’s. Drysdale just turned 20, plays vs top lines and isn’t sheltered and while he struggled his value is still higher within the NHL. Also he’s right handed.

But yes Sandin is worth more than Dadonov I never said he wasn’t but your ignoring the rest of the deal. Even tho Dadonov is a cap dump to VGK he’s still a quality player and getting him at 2.5M increases his value. Put him in the middle 6 lengthens the lineup quite a bit. Also TOR gets out from 3 more years of Mrazek.

It’s a cap dump deal while getting a quality player in return for TOR.

Muzzin ideally would be the odd man out but his contract health and NTC makes that difficult.


Petrs dump isn't nearly as costly as this site thinks it will be. Take sandin out and replace it with a high 2nd and a b (or equivalent) and that is roughly proper value on your whole trade. Leafs still say no though. Not interested in that package.

Dry may not be sheltered, but he bloody should be lmao. Hes been BAD
Jun. 6, 2022 at 7:54 p.m.
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Prospects have but yes. I didn’t just pick names out of a hat tho. Sandin is blocked in TOR right now and Konecny has been talked about before.


Yeah definitely, I feel like a hockey trade involving Sandin makes sense though. Comtois for Sandin is something that could work for both teams, I'd rather dump Mrazek with a 2nd to a rebuilding team TBH
Jun. 6, 2022 at 10:06 p.m.
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Hard pass from Philly
 
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