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Keep the Original Misfits

Created by: puckhead6130
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 7, 2022
Published: Jun. 7, 2022
Team: 2022-23 Vegas Golden Knights
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Howden, Brett1$800,000
Roy, Nicolas2$2,500,000
Kolesar, Keegan2$900,000
Hague, Nicolas2$1,200,000
Zacha, Pavel3$3,750,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Smith, Reilly3$4,000,000
Trades
1.
VGK
    Future Considerations
    CHI
    1. Brossoit, Laurent
    2. Leschyshyn, Jake [RFA Rights]
    2.
    VGK
      Future Consideration
      DAL
      1. Dadonov, Evgeni ($1,500,000 retained)
      3.
      VGK
      1. Zacha, Pavel [RFA Rights]
      2. 2022 4th round pick (NYI)
      NJD
      1. Pacioretty, Max
      2. Hague, Nicolas
      Retained Salary Transactions
      • Evgeni Dadonov: $1,500,000 (30%)
      DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
      2022
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      2023
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      2024
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      ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
      22$82,500,000$82,191,667$0$0$308,333
      Left WingCenterRight Wing
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      Stephenson, Chandler
      $2,750,000
      C, LW
      UFA - 2
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      Eichel, Jack
      $10,000,000
      C
      NMC
      UFA - 4
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      Stone, Mark
      $9,500,000
      RW
      NMC
      UFA - 5
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      Marchessault, Jonathan
      $5,000,000
      LW, RW
      NTC
      UFA - 2
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      Karlsson, William
      $5,900,000
      C
      NTC
      UFA - 5
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      Smith, Reilly
      $4,000,000
      RW, LW
      NTC
      UFA - 3
      Zacha, Pavel
      $3,750,000
      LW, C
      UFA - 1
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      Patrick, Nolan
      $1,200,000
      C, RW
      RFA - 1
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      Roy, Nicolas
      $2,500,000
      C, RW
      UFA - 5
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      Carrier, William
      $1,400,000
      LW
      UFA - 2
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      Howden, Brett
      $800,000
      C
      RFA - 1
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      Kolesar, Keegan
      $900,000
      RW, C
      UFA - 3
      Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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      McNabb, Brayden
      $2,850,000
      LD
      NTC
      UFA - 3
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      Pietrangelo, Alex
      $8,800,000
      RD
      NMC
      UFA - 5
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      Lehner, Robin
      $5,000,000
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      NTC
      UFA - 3
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      Theodore, Shea
      $5,200,000
      LD/RD
      UFA - 3
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      Whitecloud, Zach
      $2,750,000
      RD
      UFA - 6
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      Thompson, Logan
      $766,667
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      Martinez, Alec
      $5,250,000
      LD
      NTC
      UFA - 2
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      Coghlan, Dylan
      $762,500
      RD
      RFA - 1
      ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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      Hutton, Ben
      $850,000
      LD
      UFA - 2
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      Amadio, Michael
      $762,500
      C, RW
      UFA - 2

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      Jun. 7 at 9:47 a.m.
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      Do you really think that Nolan Patrick is a sound choice as 3C? Why?

      Or that other teams will take the VGS cap dumps for future considerations knowing that VGS cant afford to keep them?

      After Lehner's issues/injuries, thats a capable backup?

      The RFAs/UFA look underpaid.

      The price of getting Eichel for center depth and suddenly, this is your lineup?

      It just looks like a status quo, hoping for no inujuries and hoping for best results all around, but not very realistic.
      Jun. 7 at 9:47 a.m.
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      Vegas wouldn’t have to add Hague in the NJ deal. Pacioretty doesn’t have negative value.
      Jun. 7 at 9:54 a.m.
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      I would do Zacha and a 4th to get that package. Maybe even a 3rd
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      Jun. 7 at 10:02 a.m.
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      If Tom didn't take this I'd burn down the Rock.
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      Jun. 7 at 10:06 a.m.
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      Quoting: Hammerwise
      Do you really think that Nolan Patrick is a sound choice as 3C? Why?

      Or that other teams will take the VGS cap dumps for future considerations knowing that VGS cant afford to keep them?

      After Lehner's issues/injuries, thats a capable backup?

      The RFAs/UFA look underpaid.

      The price of getting Eichel for center depth and suddenly, this is your lineup?

      It just looks like a status quo, hoping for no inujuries and hoping for best results all around, but not very realistic.


      NJ is trying to compete this year and Pacioretty is someone who can score goals in bunches and Hauge is a sweetener for Zacha who can play so many roles on this team and is still getting a pay increase to play on a team that could win right now.
      Chicago needs bodies and both of those guys can play in their lineup
      I truly believe that in the right situation Dadonov can make an impact and Dallas seems like a good fit IMO

      If Smith wants to stay he is going to have to take a pay cut.
      Roy, Howden and Kolesar are bridge like deals.

      Logan Thompson was more then capable down the stretch and Lehner is who he when healthy is a guy who can get hot.

      Patrick is there cause that is his ideal role. The beauty of Vegas is that some of these guys can slide all around. Stephenson, Zacha, Howden, Roy and Kolesar can all play center and Zacha could slide up to the top line a produce.

      Their cap problems are going to haunt them for a long time and they are going to have to have their big players carry them at times and Eichel and Stone can for sure do that when healthy.
      Jun. 7 at 10:17 a.m.
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      Quoting: puckhead6130
      NJ is trying to compete this year and Pacioretty is someone who can score goals in bunches and Hauge is a sweetener for Zacha who can play so many roles on this team and is still getting a pay increase to play on a team that could win right now.
      Chicago needs bodies and both of those guys can play in their lineup
      I truly believe that in the right situation Dadonov can make an impact and Dallas seems like a good fit IMO

      If Smith wants to stay he is going to have to take a pay cut.
      Roy, Howden and Kolesar are bridge like deals.

      Logan Thompson was more then capable down the stretch and Lehner is who he when healthy is a guy who can get hot.

      Patrick is there cause that is his ideal role. The beauty of Vegas is that some of these guys can slide all around. Stephenson, Zacha, Howden, Roy and Kolesar can all play center and Zacha could slide up to the top line a produce.

      Their cap problems are going to haunt them for a long time and they are going to have to have their big players carry them at times and Eichel and Stone can for sure do that when healthy.


      Maybe on all that, but if you are relying on Nolan Patrick actually playing, you've built your stone castle in the sand. He has demonstrated one thing, is that he can not stay healthy and is one hit from retirement. Last year when he did play, he was incredibly poor. And that lineup is too thin and too close to the cap to continually have Patrick on the IR.
      Jun. 7 at 10:23 a.m.
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      Quoting: Hammerwise
      Maybe on all that, but if you are relying on Nolan Patrick actually playing, you've built your stone castle in the sand. He has demonstrated one thing, is that he can not stay healthy and is one hit from retirement. Last year when he did play, he was incredibly poor. And that lineup is too thin and too close to the cap to continually have Patrick on the IR.


      This seems kind of personal between you and Mr.Patrick.....

      Like I said there are 5 guys who can play 3C and Vegas used some many guys last year someone like Rondbjerg or Dorofeyev can come in a help at a budget cap hit while Patrick is on LTIR
      Jun. 7 at 10:28 a.m.
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      Quoting: puckhead6130
      This seems kind of personal between you and Mr.Patrick.....

      Like I said there are 5 guys who can play 3C and Vegas used some many guys last year someone like Rondbjerg or Dorofeyev can come in a help at a budget cap hit while Patrick is on LTIR


      Its not personal, its just common sense that if you're developing a roster that you dont pick players who are unlikely to deliver/play. I wouldn;t have said anything if Patrick was your 4C, but your rationale is that hes ideal in that spot. Facts show hes far from perfect to be relied on for any roster spot
      Jun. 7 at 11:49 a.m.
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      I’ll drive Zacha all the way across country rn if it would help get that package
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      Jun. 7 at 12:24 p.m.
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      Drop the salary retention and take Glendening
      Jun. 7 at 12:34 p.m.
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      Quoting: SlevinKalevra
      Drop the salary retention and take Glendening


      I thought about that or taking Kiviranta but was not sure if Dallas needed them in their bottom six or not.
      Jun. 7 at 12:39 p.m.
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      Quoting: puckhead6130
      I thought about that or taking Kiviranta but was not sure if Dallas needed them in their bottom six or not.


      I’d rather move Glendening as I don’t think we need him AND Faksa. Kivi is capable of more offense in a better system imo and is part of the Finnish mafia lol
      Jun. 7 at 12:50 p.m.
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      Quoting: SlevinKalevra
      I’d rather move Glendening as I don’t think we need him AND Faksa. Kivi is capable of more offense in a better system imo and is part of the Finnish mafia lol


      I like what Faksa did in the playoffs two years ago but I get he has not been that since. His contract isn't the worst if you can get third line production.
      Jun. 7 at 12:51 p.m.
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      I like what Faksa did in the playoffs two years ago but I get he has not been that since. His contract isn't the worst if you can get third line production.


      He needs better line mates. Would like to see him with Namestnikov and Dellandrea
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      Jun. 7 at 1:40 p.m.
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      I’ll drive Zacha all the way across country rn if it would help get that package


      Id pack his bags and let max sleep in my bedroom until he gets settled
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