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Created by: GarthBrooks
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 7, 2022
Published: Jun. 7, 2022
Team: 2022-23 Toronto Maple Leafs
Team Explanation
Dumb but I like Harkins he's fast and tenacious (from the few Winnipeg games i caught), he's just a stopgap till Robertson figures it out and his cap is low enough so drop him lower in the lineup when that happens, we get another 1st rounder allowing us to give up the earlier pick if necessary to send Mrazek to the moon. Iunno I want Sandin playing all games not sitting any for Gio but I think Gio signed for 2 years thinking he'd play too. LA's got people to resign i can't see them taking Muzzin's contract as much as everyone else on here.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Engvall, Pierre2$1,900,000
Liljegren, Timothy3$2,000,000
Kase, Ondrej2$1,750,000
Harkins, Jansen2$850,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Blackwell, Colin2$900,000
Campbell, Jack5$5,000,000
Lyubushkin, Ilya2$1,900,000
Trades
1.
TOR
  1. 2022 3rd round pick (NSH)
NSH
  1. Kerfoot, Alexander
2.
TOR
  1. Harkins, Jansen [RFA Rights]
  2. 2022 1st round pick (NYR)
WPG
  1. Sandin, Rasmus [RFA Rights]
3.
TOR
    CHI
    1. Mrázek, Petr
    2. 2022 1st round pick (TOR)
    DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
    2022
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    2023
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    2024
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    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    23$82,500,000$82,433,950$212,500$0$66,050
    Left WingCenterRight Wing
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    Bunting, Michael
    $950,000
    LW
    UFA - 1
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    Matthews, Auston
    $11,640,250
    C
    UFA - 2
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    Marner, Mitchell
    $10,903,000
    RW
    UFA - 3
    Harkins, Jansen
    $850,000
    LW, C
    UFA - 2
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    Tavares, John
    $11,000,000
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 3
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    Nylander, William
    $6,962,366
    RW, LW
    UFA - 2
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    Engvall, Pierre
    $1,900,000
    LW, C
    UFA - 1
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    Kämpf, David
    $1,500,000
    C
    UFA - 1
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    Kase, Ondrej
    $1,750,000
    RW
    UFA - 1
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    Robertson, Nicholas
    $796,667
    LW
    RFA - 2
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    Blackwell, Colin
    $900,000
    C, RW
    UFA - 2
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    Holmberg, Pontus
    $827,500
    RW, LW
    RFA - 1
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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    Rielly, Morgan
    $7,500,000
    LD
    NMC
    UFA - 8
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    Brodie, TJ
    $5,000,000
    LD/RD
    NTC
    UFA - 2
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    Campbell, Jack
    $5,000,000
    G
    NTC
    UFA - 5
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    Muzzin, Jake
    $5,625,000
    LD
    NTC
    UFA - 2
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    Liljegren, Timothy
    $2,000,000
    RD
    RFA - 2
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    Woll, Joseph
    $766,667
    G
    RFA - 3
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    Giordano, Mark
    $800,000
    LD
    UFA - 2
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    Lyubushkin, Ilya
    $1,900,000
    RD
    UFA - 2
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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    Simmonds, Wayne
    $900,000
    RW, LW
    NTC
    UFA - 1
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    Anderson, Joey
    $750,000
    RW
    RFA - 1
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    Holl, Justin
    $2,000,000
    RD
    NTC
    UFA - 1
    Taxi Squad
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    Clifford, Kyle
    $762,500 ($0)
    LW
    UFA - 2

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    Jun. 7 at 10:27 a.m.
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    no chance
    Jun. 7 at 10:27 a.m.
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    Swap Sandin for Liljegren and its a deal.

    Harkins has one game every 10 games where he looks like mcdavid then goes back to being invisible.
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    Jun. 7 at 10:27 a.m.
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    everyone needs to stop with the "taking" muzzins contract as if hes a cap dump
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    Jun. 7 at 10:28 a.m.
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    Quoting: DarylMcNeckHead
    Swap Sandin for Liljegren and its a deal.

    Harkins has one game every 10 games where he looks like mcdavid then goes back to being invisible.


    its no deal for both
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    Jun. 7 at 10:28 a.m.
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    Quoting: vr1995
    everyone needs to stop with the "taking" muzzins contract as if hes a cap dump


    Nobody wants his contract
    Jun. 7 at 10:28 a.m.
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    No chance the Leafs attach a first round pick to Mrazek. It's not a crippling amount of money. They could retain 50% or buyout instead. Neither option is ideal, but they're not trading a first for that. The situation is not similar to Marleau at all. If that's the going rate I would think they'd be better off playing him and seeing what they can do later in the season. It's not like his value will get worse.

    This is basically the same lineup as last year, worse probably in goal. Not going to be it I don't think.
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    Jun. 7 at 10:31 a.m.
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    Quoting: newballcoach
    No chance the Leafs attach a first round pick to Mrazek. It's not a crippling amount of money. They could retain 50% or buyout instead. Neither option is ideal, but they're not trading a first for that. The situation is not similar to Marleau at all. If that's the going rate I would think they'd be better off playing him and seeing what they can do later in the season. It's not like his value will get worse.

    This is basically the same lineup as last year, worse probably in goal. Not going to be it I don't think.


    Toronto defense looked terrible in front of Mrazek so I get what ur saying.
    Jun. 7 at 10:37 a.m.
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    Why would the jets do that? We don't need LHD. If it is Liljegren then I would think about it.
    Jun. 7 at 10:48 a.m.
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    Quoting: newballcoach
    No chance the Leafs attach a first round pick to Mrazek. It's not a crippling amount of money. They could retain 50% or buyout instead. Neither option is ideal, but they're not trading a first for that. The situation is not similar to Marleau at all. If that's the going rate I would think they'd be better off playing him and seeing what they can do later in the season. It's not like his value will get worse.

    This is basically the same lineup as last year, worse probably in goal. Not going to be it I don't think.


    He was bottom 5 worst goaltender in the league this year and he's paid like a tandem goalie for this year and next. We cannot keep him cap wise and every team knows that. Marleau was just 1 year and the leafs had a lot of cap room dubas couldn't get Marner and Matthews to take less that year. The team is the same but I'm trying to take into account what Dubas saying the they're going to try it again. If it were just my opinion I'd do way more. In my head Dubas is going to try to find a guy like Bunting to play on the 2nd line like a guy they can for a low cap hit, not necessary experienced but has intangibles he likes which from past experience is fast skating, skilled, not necessarily big and physical but can put the puck in the net, cost controlled. I think Keefe liked his 3rd line a lot he's brought it up a lot in press conferences this year like he likes that he finally has a shut down line (but its Kase instead of Mikheyev). Our 4th line was a disappointment, i think kids with Blackwell who's scored 10 goals in NYR a couple seasons ago
    Jun. 7 at 10:51 a.m.
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    Quoting: njlaforte
    Why would the jets do that? We don't need LHD. If it is Liljegren then I would think about it.


    I'd play Sandin over Logan Stanley..I'd play a lot of players over Logan Stanley tbh. But i guess in this scenario Cheveldayoff thinks that too
    Jun. 7 at 10:52 a.m.
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    Quoting: vr1995
    everyone needs to stop with the "taking" muzzins contract as if hes a cap dump


    If no one wants his contract, including the team that he is on, then I'm pretty sure that makes him a cap dump. At the very least it makes his value WAY lower than what TOR ACGM's seem to expect it is.
    Jun. 7 at 10:54 a.m.
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    Appreciate the few posts that have the Leafs with 23 man roster. But the Leafs keep Sandin over Harkins. Steeves of Marlies looks like a LW regular next year
    Jun. 7 at 10:56 a.m.
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    Quoting: Garak
    If no one wants his contract, including the team that he is on, then I'm pretty sure that makes him a cap dump. At the very least it makes his value WAY lower than what TOR ACGM's seem to expect it is.


    by noone, you mean the people here on this website who have no impact or say in anything that goes on in real life? lmao, so no, he isnt a cap dump because a site where everyone hates the leafs claims he is lol,
    Jun. 7 at 11:02 a.m.
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    by noone, you mean the people here on this website who have no impact or say in anything that goes on in real life? lmao, so no, he isnt a cap dump because a site where everyone hates the leafs claims he is lol,


    He’s got an injury history every year, these playoffs were the first one where he was actually healthy and he played great. He makes 5.65 million dollars for the next 2 seasons. He’s a good player. He’s got an NTC so I doubt he’s waiving to a non playoff team. So there’s a group of 16-18 teams there. It’s not a cash in cash out trade we eliminating his entire cap hit. He’s clearly got a groin injury that’s recurrently causing problems and he’s already not fleet of foot or whatever. I don’t know tho
    Jun. 7 at 11:06 a.m.
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    Quoting: GarthBrooks
    He’s got an injury history every year, these playoffs were the first one where he was actually healthy and he played great. He makes 5.65 million dollars for the next 2 seasons. He’s a good player. He’s got an NTC so I doubt he’s waiving to a non playoff team. So there’s a group of 16-18 teams there. It’s not a cash in cash out trade we eliminating his entire cap hit. He’s clearly got a groin injury that’s recurrently causing problems and he’s already not fleet of foot or whatever. I don’t know tho


    I know he does, but he was being written off as done since february and him and brodie were our best pair in the playoffs by far, he can still play
    Jun. 7 at 11:16 a.m.
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    Jets have plenty of Sandin type dmen, they really don't need another, would rather have the 1st and Harkins, do like Sandin though.
    Jun. 7 at 11:47 a.m.
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    I'd play Sandin over Logan Stanley..I'd play a lot of players over Logan Stanley tbh. But i guess in this scenario Cheveldayoff thinks that too


    I would play Sandin over Stanley as well, I would play pretty much everybody over Stanley, but we have Morrissey, Samberg and Heinola who are all NHL quality dmen on the left side. And the only NHL quality RHD that we have are DeMelo and Pionk.
    Jun. 7 at 11:51 a.m.
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    Quoting: GarthBrooks
    He was bottom 5 worst goaltender in the league this year and he's paid like a tandem goalie for this year and next. We cannot keep him cap wise and every team knows that. Marleau was just 1 year and the leafs had a lot of cap room dubas couldn't get Marner and Matthews to take less that year. The team is the same but I'm trying to take into account what Dubas saying the they're going to try it again. If it were just my opinion I'd do way more. In my head Dubas is going to try to find a guy like Bunting to play on the 2nd line like a guy they can for a low cap hit, not necessary experienced but has intangibles he likes which from past experience is fast skating, skilled, not necessarily big and physical but can put the puck in the net, cost controlled. I think Keefe liked his 3rd line a lot he's brought it up a lot in press conferences this year like he likes that he finally has a shut down line (but its Kase instead of Mikheyev). Our 4th line was a disappointment, i think kids with Blackwell who's scored 10 goals in NYR a couple seasons ago


    The Marleau contract was a literal anchor. It couldn't be bought out. Mrazek can. You can also retain on him and trade him for less of a "dump". As you mentioned, he was horrible last year. Based on his statistical history across his time in the NHL, it's extremely unlikely he is that poor again. You could keep him and see what happens and look to make a move during the season. It hamstrings you a bit now, but I don't think you need to make your roster a finished product in the offseason. You give yourself flexibility (which they have right now I think) and options to upgrade if you find the space and the need as the season goes on.

    I definitely think Keefe likes his shutdown third line. I don't think it makes sense however without any ability to generate offence, so I don't think it's something you'll see them go back to. Engvall-Kampf-Kase is a decent line, but they're an offensive blackhole. It only works if Tavares/Nylander are clicking and they haven't been.
    Jun. 7 at 11:57 a.m.
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    I know he does, but he was being written off as done since february and him and brodie were our best pair in the playoffs by far, he can still play


    "he can still play" =/= "teams will give up an asset *and* take on his $5.625M cap hit"

    Besides, every ACGM that moves him(thankfully not this one) just ignores the fact that he has a full NTC and is playing an hour and a half away from where he grew up, and he's on a contending team. Would *you* waive a no-trade clause if you were in that situation?
    Jun. 7 at 12:03 p.m.
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    Winnipeg is not trading a first for a LSD when they already have a surplus. Just give us a mid round pick if you want Harkins.
     
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