Pasta deals id consider

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Created by: Dekes

Team: 2022-23 Boston Bruins

Initial Creation Date: Jun. 7, 2022

Published: Jun. 7, 2022

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

All these deals are taking into consideration that pasta agrees to an extension pre trade, but even if he doesn't pasta has a NMC so if he waives to your team that basically shows he'd be willing to work on one. He has a 10 team no trade list

I see a lot of comparisons to eichel trade but they aren't really similiar at all.

1. Eichel wanted out and forced himself out, that is huge in general to the type of package a player will get
2. Post extension pastrnak will still be getting 2-1 mill less then eichel, so he will come at a cheaper cost that is less detrimental to a teams cap like tavares and karlsson's contracts
3. both have had somewhat of an injury history but pasta got a relatively casual surgery that lots of players had, eichel got a surgery that no professional athlete has ever done. their definitely more of a risk with eichel that pasta in terms of health

Trades

BOS

Beauvillier, Anthony
Wahlstrom, Oliver
2022 1st round pick (NYI)
2023 1st round pick (NYI)
2024 2nd round pick (NYI)

Additional Details:

13OA

NYI

David Pastrnak

BOS

Holtz, Alexander
2022 1st round pick (NJD)

Additional Details:

2OA
Holtz or Mercer

NJD

Pastrnak, David

BOS

Greig, Ridly
Pinto, Shane
2022 1st round pick (OTT)
2023 3rd round pick (OTT)

Additional Details:

7OA

OTT

David Pastrnak

BOS

Farabee, Joel
Foerster, Tyson
York, Cam
2022 1st round pick (PHI)

Additional Details:

5OA

PHI

2022 2nd round pick (BOS)

Additional Details:

David Pastrnak

BOS

Johnson, Kent
Texier, Alexandre
2022 1st round pick (CHI)

Additional Details:

6OA

CBJ

David Pastrnak

BOS

Jeannot, Tanner
Svechkov, Fedor [Reserve List]
Tomasino, Philip
2022 1st round pick (NSH)
2023 1st round pick (NSH)

Additional Details:

17OA

NSH

David Pastrnak
Jack Studnicka

BOS

Kaliyev, Arthur
Turcotte, Alex
2022 1st round pick (LAK)
2023 2nd round pick (LAK)

Additional Details:

19OA

LAK

BOS

Chytil, Filip
Kakko, Kaapo [RFA Rights]
Miller, K'Andre
2023 1st round pick (NYR)
2024 2nd round pick (NYR)

NYR

David Pastrnak
Matt Grzelcyk

BOS

Höglander, Nils
Podkolzin, Vasily
2022 1st round pick (VAN)
2024 1st round pick (VAN)

Additional Details:

15OA

VAN

David Pastrnak
22 2nd

Buried

Chris Wagner: $225,000 ($1,350,000)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2022
2023
2024

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

EMBED

TEXT-EMBED

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
18	$82,500,000	$25,639,167	$0	$7,100,000	$56,860,833

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Greig, Ridly $863,333$863,333 C, LW RFA - 3	Johnson, Kent $925,000$925,000 ($925,000$925K) LW, C RFA - 2	Holtz, Alexander $894,167$894,167 ($850,000$850K) RW, LW RFA - 3
Beauvillier, Anthony $4,150,000$4,150,000 RW, LW UFA - 2	Texier, Alexandre $1,525,000$1,525,000 LW, C, RW RFA - 2	Wahlstrom, Oliver $894,167$894,167 ($537,500$538K) RW RFA - 1
Farabee, Joel $5,000,000$5,000,000 LW, RW UFA - 6	Pinto, Shane $925,000$925,000 ($600,000$600K) C RFA - 1
	Foerster, Tyson $863,333$863,333 RW RFA - 3
Jeannot, Tanner $800,000$800,000 RW, LW UFA - 1	Turcotte, Alex $894,167$894,167 ($1,550,000$2M) C RFA - 2	Tomasino, Philip $863,333$863,333 ($212,500$212K) LW, RW RFA - 2
Podkolzin, Vasily $925,000$925,000 ($850,000$850K) RW, LW RFA - 2	Chytil, Filip $2,300,000$2,300,000 C, LW UFA - 1	Kaliyev, Arthur $894,167$894,167 ($150,000$150K) RW, LW RFA - 2
Höglander, Nils $891,667$891,667 ($300,000$300K) LW, RW RFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender


York, Cam $880,833$880,833 ($725,000$725K) LD/RD RFA - 1
Miller, K'Andre $925,000$925,000 ($400,000$400K) LD RFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
		Hall, Taylor $6,000,000$6,000,000 LW M-NTC, NMC UFA - 3
		Foligno, Nick $3,800,000$3,800,000 LW, C, RW M-NTC UFA - 1
		Marchand, Brad $6,125,000$6,125,000 LW M-NTC UFA - 3
		Steen, Oskar $800,000$800,000 C, RW UFA - 2
		DeBrusk, Jake $4,000,000$4,000,000 RW, LW UFA - 2
		Haula, Erik $2,375,000$2,375,000 C, LW UFA - 1
		Frederic, Trent $1,050,000$1,050,000 LW, RW UFA - 1
		Nosek, Tomas $1,750,000$1,750,000 LW, C UFA - 1
		Coyle, Charlie $5,250,000$5,250,000 C, RW M-NTC, NMC UFA - 4
		Smith, Craig $3,100,000$3,100,000 RW UFA - 1
		Grzelcyk, Matt $3,687,500$3,687,500 LD UFA - 2
		Lindholm, Hampus $6,500,000$6,500,000 LD NTC, NMC UFA - 8
		McAvoy, Charlie $9,500,000$9,500,000 RD UFA - 8
		Swayman, Jeremy $925,000$925,000 ($150,000$150K) G RFA - 1
		Ullmark, Linus $5,000,000$5,000,000 G NMC UFA - 3
		Zboril, Jakub $1,137,500$1,137,500 LD/RD UFA - 2
		Reilly, Mike $3,000,000$3,000,000 LD UFA - 2
		Clifton, Connor $1,000,000$1,000,000 RD UFA - 1
		Forbort, Derek $3,000,000$3,000,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 2
		Carlo, Brandon $4,100,000$4,100,000 RD UFA - 5

Jun. 7, 2022 at 3:52 p.m.

eatfreshrefresh

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I’d do it, from an Islanders perspective. Would like some clarity on an extension if so, though

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Jun. 7, 2022 at 3:54 p.m.

NDoody

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Not sure i would take that for the Sens, Also Pasta contract would be hard to carry once the Sens also have to pay Stuzle and Norris.
I could see pasta in LA though and that is a great deal to jump start a rebuild moving on from Bergeron

Jun. 7, 2022 at 3:55 p.m.

Masonh618

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I kinda like the Islanders and Flyers ones.
I'm not happy about that though lol

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Jun. 7, 2022 at 3:58 p.m.

mastersp4

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Quoting: NDoody

And u will need to fill ur arena if u want ur gm to go full cap lol

Jun. 7, 2022 at 3:59 p.m.

Ajp_18

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Love Pasta and would love to see him in Columbus but I can’t see Columbus making that trade. Two top 6 draft picks for a wing just isn’t logical for Columbus. If Pasta was a center we’d be having a different conversation, but it still leaves Jenner or Roslovic as the 1c and neither of them are a 1c. Jenner should be a 3c on a contending team and Roslovic would be a low end 2c on a contender.

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Jun. 7, 2022 at 4:01 p.m.

LafreNYR

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Rangers say no

Jun. 7, 2022 at 4:01 p.m.

NDoody

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Quoting: mastersp4

And u will need to fill ur arena if u want ur gm to go full cap lol

Stuzle, Norris, Batherson, Brady, Sanderson, Chabot. Will all fill the arena.
The spending will also come once ownership is figured out, that was the issue really.

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Jun. 7, 2022 at 4:04 p.m.

LafreNYR

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Quoting: LafreNYR

Rangers say no

I should rephrase, value is probably fair but Rangers say no

Jun. 7, 2022 at 4:06 p.m.

SK101

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As much as I want pasta jackets don’t need wingers. Especially not at the equivalent of two top 6 picks and probably another first round value in texier. Value might be fair but it doesn’t fit jarmos plan

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Jun. 7, 2022 at 4:09 p.m.

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Dekes

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Quoting: linehan10

I’d do it, from an Islanders perspective. Would like some clarity on an extension if so, though

their has been talks they have already started to work on one. Im assuming it will be around 8x8-9 mill

Jun. 7, 2022 at 4:10 p.m.

#11

Jacketsman61

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The Jackets would counter with Texier, Boqvist, and 6OA as a take it or leave it deal. Unless a high quality center is coming back CBJ’s way, there is no way Jarmo even considers moving Johnson. And the addition of Boqvist is a big add

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Jun. 7, 2022 at 4:10 p.m.

#12

Dekes

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Dekesaladekes

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Quoting: LafreNYR

I should rephrase, value is probably fair but Rangers say no

fair enough, i was kinda iffy about adding it because NYR in that weird spot where they are very competitive but also have a long of young players so i was unsure if they would want to loose out on youth in hope that these acquistions would give them high odds for the next few years to win the cup

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Jun. 7, 2022 at 4:11 p.m.

#13

eatfreshrefresh

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Quoting: Dekes

their has been talks they have already started to work on one. Im assuming it will be around 8x8-9 mill

The Bruins? If so that feels cheap

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Jun. 7, 2022 at 4:12 p.m.

#14

Dekes

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Dekesaladekes

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Quoting: Jacketsman61

The Jackets would counter with Texier, Boqvist, and 6OA as a take it or leave it deal. Unless a high quality center is coming back CBJ’s way, there is no way Jarmo even considers moving Johnson.

Id be willing to consider that if boston could get a young C in return for carlo. what about sillinger in place of johnson?

Jun. 7, 2022 at 4:12 p.m.

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Dekes

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Dekesaladekes

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Quoting: linehan10

The Bruins? If so that feels cheap

B's have been pretty good with contract management and given Mcavoy got 9.5 mill i can't see them paying anyone else more at this current moment

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Jun. 7, 2022 at 4:13 p.m.

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palhal

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You're right the comparison to Eichel isn't fair at all.
Eichel had over 4 full year left on his contract, and no matter how you cut it, Pasta has one. You only have twos trade (Philly and Isles) where the Bruins are taking back much cap at all....It's ELCs and picks.
And why have seen what a poor trade it was for Eichel by Vegas Buffalo got a good player Tuch, ELCs, picks and cap space. Could Bruins find a similar sucker?
Most of these teams are non playoff teams even with Pasta. They can wait a year and spend their $$$$$ elsewhere (other UFAs) and keep all those cheap young assets

Jun. 7, 2022 at 4:14 p.m.

#17

Jacketsman61

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Quoting: Dekes

Id be willing to consider that if boston could get a young C in return for carlo. what about sillinger in place of johnson?

See that won’t work bc the Jackets need centers. Plus, Sillinger is untouchable. Hometown born kid and Jarmo is over the moon for this kid.

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Jun. 7, 2022 at 4:20 p.m.

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palhal

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Quoting: Dekes

B's have been pretty good with contract management and given Mcavoy got 9.5 mill i can't see them paying anyone else more at this current moment

Like that you mentioned that. Throughout the years the Bruins have been very good with contract management and getting good players on team friendly teams. But they paid top $$$ for McAvoy IMO. If others see McAvoy getting I believe the 4th highest Dman $$$$, maybe the 8th best winger in the league Pasta (I'm kinda guessing), you would think he's wants t fair market $$$$.

Jun. 7, 2022 at 4:40 p.m.

#19

Jayk

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My read... Value wise from Bruins perspective... a). New Jersey, b). Rangers, c). Ottawa d). Kings e). "the rest"!

Though I only see the New Jersey trade as really enticing (Holtz & Slafkovsky/Wright).

Jun. 7, 2022 at 4:46 p.m.

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dk325

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Quoting: Dekes

Id be willing to consider that if boston could get a young C in return for carlo. what about sillinger in place of johnson?

Sillinger probably has more value than Johnson already. Sillinger has proven NHL ability and was not put in a prominent role last year. Johnson has a high ceiling, but he still has to show that he can get there before his value really starts to go up.

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Jun. 7, 2022 at 4:52 p.m.

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MrazekGFX

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Why do your trade proposals have no consistency? You ask for two young roster players from the Islanders and two first-round picks, and then ask for two young roster players from the Kings and only one first-round pick? The Islanders' pick is much higher too.

Jun. 7, 2022 at 5:00 p.m.

#22

Jester9881

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As an Islander fan, I'd do that if he were to extend.

Jun. 7, 2022 at 5:04 p.m.

#23

TooMalevolent

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That Islander deal is light. Obviously all these come with a long-term deal being signed. NYI should do that yesterday.

Jun. 7, 2022 at 5:12 p.m.

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slapshot723

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I hate to say this to you, but look at what Mark Stone got. You'll get a little more since it's a full year vs. the deadline, but Stone with an extension only got a recent 1st round pick, a bottom-6 forward, and a 2nd round pick. You'll get more, but not much more than that.

Jun. 7, 2022 at 5:18 p.m.

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hanson493

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Quoting: Jacketsman61

not for the bruins. boqvist is unnecessary. bruins have top 4 d locked up: lindholm, mcavoy, zboril/grz, carlo. defensemen in a trade for pasta during a rebuild is unnecessary. we need centers. we need more high quality forwards. including any dmen at all just isnt necessary for a bruins perspective.

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