All I want to know is what 2nd tier prospect Guerin would rather have between guys like Foote, Thompson, or Zetterlund.

These are the questions I ask myself

I like the idea of Foote as a big body with scoring potential. Lots of mocks look like he gets dumped off and physically he might be a future Foligno replacement He's easily my favorite 2nd tier prospect right now, but to be fair I don't know a ton about him. Also, I completely botched the Wild D in this mock lol. I forgot Middleton and the pairings

So basically it's Fiala/Mercer 1-for-1 and the rest is stuff for stuff?

Essentially, I guess. From what I heard Billy wants a high-end center and is willing to go 1-for-1 on that but i think adding a high potential D prospect back for another decent player has good value for each team. Foote is a good prospect for the post buy out Wild. The Wild D prospects are pretty much perfect for pairing with Hughes or Hamilton down the road.

Don’t expect much more than what buchnevich got dealt for last summer which was Sammy Blais and a 2nd. Also Minnesota needs to free up cap and everyone knows it so they won’t get top return for fiala id expect something like Nolan Foote and a 2nd maybe

I would probably do this if it was Zetterlund instead of Foote, I honestly don’t know enough about Foote but I really like Zetterlund and I think he could bring more skill than Greenway. If you stuck him at right wing with Ek and Foligno that line would produce more offensively while maintaining the weight to play the big boy style of hockey. Zetterlund is 7 inches shorter than Greenway and is only 10 pounds lighter.

Obviously you’d have to figure out what to do with Greenway in that scenario and I guess you could stick him on the 4th line but I would probably trade him if this were to come to fruition.

Still not sure why Guerin extended him.

😂😂

Buchnevich and fiala have almost identical production offensively the last 2 years and buchnevich is a better two way player why’s that so funny?

Nobody cares about 2 years of production, you’re only as valuable as your last season. Fiala just had 85 points in 82 games leading up to the off season he will be traded. Buchnevich had 46 points in 54 games the season leading up to him being traded. By no means is Buchnevich the better two way players either. Also, you can’t realistically tell me that NY didn’t get absolutely fleeced by the Blues.

If that’s what you think Fiala is worth, Boeser is worth a 5th round pick and a D-level prospect.

And don’t hit me with the “oh they have no leverage because they’re cap strapped” If Guerin wanted to keep Fiala he would find a way to keep Fiala. Nothing is impossible when working with money that can be moved in and out.

And if you truly believe that’s what Fiala’s worth I’ll send you off with a quote.

“Yesterday’s price is not today’s price”

I agree the rangers could have got more for buchnevich but he’s every bit as good as fiala. All I’m saying is don’t be surprised when he returns half of what you seem to think he’s worth

I’ll remember your comment when he’s traded for double what Buchnevich was. Bill Guerin is no dumba**

Teams don't trade top 2nd line centers for top 6 wingers, the former is a lot more valuable than the latter.
I can't see Devils considering this trade.

I would be shocked if Fiala is traded for this little. Billy G is a stubborn man. He’s held into Dumba for 2 years and hasn’t lowered his ask. If you want Fiala you’re gonna have to meet his demands. He doesn’t have to trade Fiala to create cap. He has other pieces he can “dump” without it blowing up in his face. It makes no sense dumping Fiala for a 2nd and a low prospect.

Isn’t Mercer projected to play on the wing for NJ? I’ve seen a lot of GMs on here having him as a wing on line 2.

Billy finally has ammo to get a top 6 C, I don’t see him squandering this chance. He tried to get a top 6 C (via R1 pick or prospect) for years with Dumba and couldn’t get anyone to bite. Feels like there will be a bidding war for Fiala and I’d assume the ask will be a way for Billy G to get a top 6 C.

as always I will remind everyone it makes no sense dumping Fiala at all. The fact that he's on the market should be a red flag about the return imo.

Just dump Dumba for nothing, take your lumps, and sign your 2nd best forward.

Either. I think the Devils view him as a center long term which is a mistake imo.

Agreed. I think BG has him on the market because he knows he can get a good return for him. I honestly think if people lowball him, he’ll keep Fiala for another year, and dump Dumba or someone else. Trading Fiala for garbage only has the potential to blow up in BGs face. BG has been trying for years to upgrade our C’s. We are so weak down the middle. If he could’ve gotten a C prospect for Dumba we might not be talking about Fiala being traded at all right now. BG probably would’ve signed Fiala for 6 mil over 5 years last offseason. But in order to get a top 6 C you have to have something of real value that people want. Fiala may be a wing but he’s a scoring wing with more potential. Lots of teams out there with C depth but lack scoring. I still see the Sens are the most likely destination. 7OA +.

You don’t think Mercer is a legit C? I can’t say I’ve seen any NJD games besides when they play the wild. If he’s more of a wing, I’m not sure the Wild would be that interested. We really need to upgrade down the middle.

If he's willing to extend there longterm I agree. Sens seem most likely to move the big assets.

I do think he's a legit C. I think he's a top 6F first and foremost though so if the devils have someone worse than Mercer in the top 6 just because the org sees him in the middle, that's a waste in my eyes.

From what we’ve been told by the local media, Fiala’s big concerns are being love and getting paid. It was reported that He was going to take a hometown discount to stay in MN. If Dorian gives up a lot in assets for him and gives him the contract he wants, I can’t see why he wouldn’t sign long term there. If Fiala turns heel and demands only playing for one team, then yeah, the value will be reduced big time. I just don’t see that happening based on what we know about Fiala.

If you have 2 legit C’s better than him, then it does make sense to move him as a C now than move him to wing in the top 6 and lose that C positional value. Just my two cents.

This is around what I expect Fiala to return. RFAs don't go for huge packages, so 2oa i think is off the table, but everyone on this site seems to forget Fiala is a legitimate superstar right now and those guys don't come up very often. Yes Buchnevich only got Blais and a second but that return was widely panned by literally everyone at the time and NYR were still in their Wilson freakout phase and wanted the "physical presence" of Blais. Reinhart, a worse player with a worse track record, got a first plus a B prospect. Mercer had a great rookie year and put up nice point totals, but his underlying stats, particularly defensively, were not as sparkling and there is no guarantee that he develops into the player Fiala actually is right now.

I don't think he /won't/ extend in Ottawa. But he now holds a lot of leverage to choose where he wants to go, so if he has 4 teams interested, he can have a preference. I'm sure those are his priorities but he functionally has a choice right now so I don't think its overly far-fetched to imagine him preferring to play somewhere specific. Not that I think it's most likely. I have no idea what's going to happen. Wide range of outcomes.