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Debrincat

Created by: KINGS67
Team: 2022-23 Los Angeles Kings
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 9, 2022
Published: Jun. 9, 2022
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What are the needs for Chicago anyways?
Free Agent Signings
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3$4,000,000
2$2,200,000
5$5,500,000
2$870,000
3$1,200,000
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CHI
  1. Faber, Brock [Reserve List]
  2. Iafallo, Alex
  3. Vilardi, Gabriel [RFA Rights]
  4. 2022 1st round pick (LAK)
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    1. 2023 2nd round pick (LAK)
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    $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$350,000$350K)
    C, LW, RW
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    $894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$2,650,000$3M)
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    $820,000$820,000 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
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    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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    $2,650,000$2,650,000
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    Jun. 9, 2022 at 4:33 p.m.
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    Hurricane Waddell
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    Kings probably one of a short list of teams who could actually make a package for Debrincat
    Jun. 9, 2022 at 4:40 p.m.
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    it starts with Byfield or it’s not happening
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    Jun. 9, 2022 at 4:41 p.m.
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    Quoting: Caniac555
    Kings probably one of a short list of teams who could actually make a package for Debrincat

    They were in on Eichel. So yeah Debrincat is definitely in their wheel house.

    And before they ask No Byfield won’t be going the other way. That’s counter productive. Kings wouldn’t even trade him for Eichel
    Jun. 9, 2022 at 4:41 p.m.
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    Quoting: TCS2020
    it starts with Byfield or it’s not happening


    No it doesn’t.
    Jun. 9, 2022 at 4:47 p.m.
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    No it doesn’t.


    Oh but it does, otherwise take a hike. You don't get an elite 24 year old NHL scorer on a current team friendly deal then a RFA after that without trading a prospect that has a strong chance of being an elite player in the league; just not realistic. You have to give to get, and bird in the hand (proven elite player) is always worth more at a young age then a potential elite player.
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    Jun. 9, 2022 at 4:53 p.m.
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    Quoting: KINGS67
    No it doesn’t.


    Do you know the last time the Kings had a 40 goal scorer? 1993 It very likely does just start with Byfield.
    Jun. 9, 2022 at 4:53 p.m.
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    Quoting: ChiHawk
    Oh but it does, otherwise take a hike. You don't get an elite 24 year old NHL scorer on a current team friendly deal then a RFA after that without trading a prospect that has a strong chance of being an elite player in the league; just not realistic. You have to give to get, and bird in the hand (proven elite player) is always worth more at a young age then a potential elite player.

    My guess is Chicago gets a great deal for him and not get a Byfield type player back.

    So you might be disappointed
    Jun. 9, 2022 at 4:54 p.m.
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    Quoting: exo2769
    Do you know the last time the Kings had a 40 goal scorer? 1993 It very likely does just start with Byfield.

    May start but I doubt it’ll end. Palffy is one that I can think of.

    Why do fans think we want to hold onto Kaliyev because he’s basically the only one in the system that has 40goal potential.

    In fact I’d pretty much be ok with trading Kaliyev in a trade for Debrincat
    Jun. 9, 2022 at 4:58 p.m.
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    Quoting: KINGS67
    My guess is Chicago gets a great deal for him and not get a Byfield type player back.

    So you might be disappointed


    I think any team acquiring Cat, IF it happens which is a long shot, will be pissed because they will give up a golden prospect to get him. Start with what Eichel got as a disgruntle player in a public pissing match with his team, injured headed for a surgery with an unknown long term prospect, traded in season where 80% of teams couldn't afford a $10M cap hit, and a UFA in 4 years and realize Cat gets more because of all that and you can understand why he would pull a big package that fans of the acquiring team won't like. But again, unlikely he gets moved as Hawks are in control here with zero motivation to move him other then a "can't pass" offer.
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    Jun. 9, 2022 at 5:01 p.m.
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    Quoting: ChiHawk
    I think any team acquiring Cat, IF it happens which is a long shot, will be pissed because they will give up a golden prospect to get him. Start with what Eichel got as a disgruntle player in a public pissing match with his team, injured headed for a surgery with an unknown long term prospect, traded in season where 80% of teams couldn't afford a $10M cap hit, and a UFA in 4 years and realize Cat gets more because of all that and you can understand why he would pull a big package that fans of the acquiring team won't like. But again, unlikely he gets moved as Hawks are in control here with zero motivation to move him other then a "can't pass" offer.

    They wanted Byfield. Didn’t get him.

    Chicago will get a nice package for him.
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    Jun. 9, 2022 at 5:03 p.m.
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    Package has to be around either Turcotee++ or Clarke++ assuming Byfield is off the table
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    Jun. 9, 2022 at 5:04 p.m.
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    Quoting: Wadejos123
    Package has to be around either Turcotee++ or Clarke++ assuming Byfield is off the table

    I can see that
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    Jun. 9, 2022 at 5:14 p.m.
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    Quoting: KINGS67
    They wanted Byfield. Didn’t get him.

    Chicago will get a nice package for him.


    There's no way I would take on Eichel with the unknown quantity of his surgery longterm, him being a UFA in 4 years, $10M cap hit, knowing only a few teams are bidding for him, in exchange for Byfield. For Cat I would pay more simply because those things aren't going on and i would own his career basically with him a RFA in another year at a QO offer of $9.5M; much much less risk and a longer term outcome.

    Would I trade byfield...not sure, but would be highly dependent on Turcotte and what the Kings think of him. Would I rather trade Turcotte and (2) 1st round picks, maybe even something more...probably. Would I trade Clarke and (2) 1st round picks, probably.
    Jun. 9, 2022 at 5:20 p.m.
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    Quoting: ChiHawk
    There's no way I would take on Eichel with the unknown quantity of his surgery longterm, him being a UFA in 4 years, $10M cap hit, knowing only a few teams are bidding for him, in exchange for Byfield. For Cat I would pay more simply because those things aren't going on and i would own his career basically with him a RFA in another year at a QO offer of $9.5M; much much less risk and a longer term outcome.

    Would I trade byfield...not sure, but would be highly dependent on Turcotte and what the Kings think of him. Would I rather trade Turcotte and (2) 1st round picks, maybe even something more...probably. Would I trade Clarke and (2) 1st round picks, probably.

    The kings are very high on Turcotte. They’re just not rushing him like most favs want. Injuries have hurt his stick imo but I don’t think that much.

    Yea I probably do Clarke if I’m not trading Byfield
    Jun. 9, 2022 at 5:27 p.m.
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    Quoting: KINGS67
    The kings are very high on Turcotte. They’re just not rushing him like most favs want. Injuries have hurt his stick imo but I don’t think that much.

    Yea I probably do Clarke if I’m not trading Byfield


    I'd think if Byfield is off the table the all eyes from Chicago would be on Turcotte. They know Turcotte well from his days playing in Chicago. They had him on their predraft rankings as Dach, Byram, Turcotte in that order it is rumored so I'm guessing they are pretty high on him. Also, Chicago needs forward prospects bad which is why I don't see them trading Cat but if they do, they will be looking for a forward prospect as the centerpiece coming back or potentially a #1LHD prospect. On the right, with Seth Jones locked up in a bad contract he's their #1 for years to come.
    Jun. 9, 2022 at 5:30 p.m.
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    Quoting: TCS2020
    it starts with Byfield or it’s not happening


    Why would it start with Byfield? What other team has a trade piece at Byfields value/potential they are willing to trade?
    The Kings will not bid against themselves.
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    Jun. 9, 2022 at 5:34 p.m.
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    Quoting: Enrique
    Why would it start with Byfield? What other team has a trade piece at Byfields value/potential they are willing to trade?
    The Kings will not bid against themselves.


    It has to be worth while for Chicago if they’re going to do move DeBrincat, that package isn’t enough. there needs to be a big name prospect if Chicago is moving DeBrincat.
    Jun. 9, 2022 at 5:35 p.m.
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    Quoting: Enrique
    Why would it start with Byfield? What other team has a trade piece at Byfields value/potential they are willing to trade?
    The Kings will not bid against themselves.


    Oyy vey because that’s the market rate. The Devils have plenty of high end prospects to make a deal as well. If not, he stays in Chicago and nets another 40.
    Jun. 9, 2022 at 5:39 p.m.
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    Oyy vey because that’s the market rate. The Devils have plenty of high end prospects to make a deal as well. If not, he stays in Chicago and nets another 40.

    Nets 40 on a losing team. I’d say that’s just padding his stats at that point.

    Servalli gave put out an article of potential players to be traded. #1 on the list Debrincat. He states Chicago might better off trading Debrincat due to that fact of the rebuild looming and might want to get a ton of assets for the future that could help them when Chicago gets good again instead of wasting Debrincats time basically.
    Jun. 9, 2022 at 5:39 p.m.
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    Quoting: Cincod1
    Oyy vey because that’s the market rate. The Devils have plenty of high end prospects to make a deal as well. If not, he stays in Chicago and nets another 40.


    Who do the Devils have on Byfields level you think they will trade? Holtz? He is closer to Turcotte and Faber.
    Jun. 9, 2022 at 5:58 p.m.
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    Quoting: KINGS67
    Nets 40 on a losing team. I’d say that’s just padding his stats at that point.

    Servalli gave put out an article of potential players to be traded. #1 on the list Debrincat. He states Chicago might better off trading Debrincat due to that fact of the rebuild looming and might want to get a ton of assets for the future that could help them when Chicago gets good again instead of wasting Debrincats time basically.


    Correct, imagine what he could do with an actual roster around him. In any case, the original offer ain’t close
    Jun. 9, 2022 at 6:01 p.m.
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    Quoting: Enrique
    Who do the Devils have on Byfields level you think they will trade? Holtz? He is closer to Turcotte and Faber.


    I like Byfield, he is an interesting prospect but let’s not anoint him just yet. He is not the second coming of McJesus. Might be/may be but not yet.
    Jun. 9, 2022 at 6:47 p.m.
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    Quoting: Cincod1
    I like Byfield, he is an interesting prospect but let’s not anoint him just yet. He is not the second coming of McJesus. Might be/may be but not yet.

    Lol who tf is even remotely saying he’s McDavid. No one.
    Jun. 9, 2022 at 6:48 p.m.
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    Correct, imagine what he could do with an actual roster around him. In any case, the original offer ain’t close

    So he’ll stay on a roster that might potentially be good in 5-6 years?

    I wouldn’t.
    Jun. 11, 2022 at 5:06 p.m.
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    So I've been thinking about this a bit longer. Why wouldn't the Kings want both Strome and Debrincat? It's likely going to cost Byfield to get the Cat, BUT that should be ok. Kopitar and Danault are each VERY responsible defensively. Strome is an offensive PP driver. LAK had the 6th worst PP and 20th in the league on scoring. Strome can seriously help out in each of those departments. Thoughts?
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