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Josh Anderson discussion

Team: 2022-23 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 9, 2022
Published: Jun. 9, 2022
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I'm getting kinda tired of these Anderson proposals. Barrie for Anderson. NO. What's the point of trading a valuable long term signed power forward, for an old defensive liable defenseman who's overpaid slightly, and expiring in a year or 2. And no, I don't care that Bob Stauffer said that it's a good base. Habs woudknt do that. Also, Pens Fans, Habs are not trading Anderson for a lazy Kasperi Kapanen + a cap dump in Brock McGinn + a 3rd rounder. Anderson is much more valuable than Kapanen and anything else. And I don't care what hocus pocus rumor you saw. It's stupid for habs to do that.
Everyone thinks Anderson is on a bad contract, he's not. He may be 750k overpaid, or something, but people exaggerated it because of the long term Deal. And actually, since the Deal is long term, it gives more value to Anderson.
Anderson is a great power forward, he can get 20 goals a year, he's great in puck battles, and in front of the net, he's a very good physical player. He's fast. He's a leader. He has experience. And he's not too shabby on defense. Overall, he's a good 2nd liner, if you put him with the right linemates. Therefore, these are the only trades I'd do for Anderson, woth thought of the things I pointed out that he's good at.

Hope yall understand and don't throw around lowballs for Anderson, as he's much more valuable to is than you think, therefore, it'd require an overpayment.
Thanks!
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MTL
  1. Barrie, Tyson
  2. Bourgault, Xavier
  3. Puljujärvi, Jesse [RFA Rights]
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If we're dealing Anderson here, we should expect a power forward in return. That's what we need from Pulijujarvi. He's literally Anderson, just slightly worse in all aspects. REMEMBER, he's been playing with McDavid and Draisaitl his whole career.
We also would need a 1st or a former 1st rounder, to even up the value, and we'll even take on Barrie, and we'll give you a 3rd. This trade is fair trade that I think could work well for both teams.
EDM
  1. Anderson, Josh
  2. 2022 3rd round pick (ANA)
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MTL
  1. Blomqvist, Joel [Reserve List]
  2. Poulin, Samuel
  3. 2022 1st round pick (PIT)
  4. 2024 2nd round pick (PIT)
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I don't see any power forward of interest on the Pens, therefore it'd cost more.
It's a 1st rounder + a prospect that hasn't turned out as expected + a goalie prospect
2nd is there in case a couple of these bust
PIT
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MTL
  1. Marino, John
  2. 2024 3rd round pick (PIT)
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SAMUEL POULIN

Other option could be John Marino, but with Letang leaving, I doubt Pittsburgh would want to trade him, but this is what I'd want.
Marino, who is over-rated + a meh prospect + 3rd on case prospect busts
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    Jun. 10, 2022 at 12:09 a.m.
    #1
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    to the Devils with 26th and 33rd for 2nd overall
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    Jun. 10, 2022 at 12:13 a.m.
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    But shouldn't barries value be pretty close to another sort of old dman like idk, petry. Im told petry is super valuable, probably worth 2 Andersons.
    Jun. 10, 2022 at 12:17 a.m.
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    Lots of wingers can be had on the UFA market for 5.5m or less without giving up any young assets.
    He's a 40 point player.
    Jun. 10, 2022 at 12:24 a.m.
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    Quoting: palhal
    Lots of wingers can be had on the UFA market for 5.5m or less without giving up any young assets.
    He's a 40 point player.


    Good. This is our price. Take it or leave it.
    We are no way accepting a lowball under any circumstances
    Jun. 10, 2022 at 12:27 a.m.
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    Quoting: pmbrouillard
    to the Devils with 26th and 33rd for 2nd overall


    If you add Zacha or Blackwood, then it's worth considering.
    This year's 2nd overall, isn't as valuable as past years.
    And if it were up to me, I'd choose Nemec at #2, not Slafkovsky
    Jun. 10, 2022 at 12:28 a.m.
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    Good. This is our price. Take it or leave it.
    We are no way accepting a lowball under any circumstances


    "We" You shouldn't be so controlling of things you don't own. Gee, Anderson puts up Mikheyev numbers and Mikheyev isn't putting getting 5m as UFA....Neither is Copp.
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    Jun. 10, 2022 at 12:30 a.m.
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    Enjoy that contract, then. He's played 5 full NHL seasons and been above 0.5/PPG -once-.

    The issue with power forwards, and why many people don't put a high value on his contract, is that they tend to enter their decline years quicker, since they bang around more often and compile more nagging injuries. Anderson just turned 28 and is signed through his age-33 season. The likelihood that he all of a sudden jumps to a perennial 25 goal/50 point guy is low - he's at the tail end of his peak years as it is already.
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    Jun. 10, 2022 at 12:31 a.m.
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    "We" You shouldn't be so controlling of things you don't own. Gee, Anderson puts up Mikheyev numbers and Mikheyev isn't putting getting 5m as UFA....Neither is Copp.


    Ist different buddy
    Read my description, where I explain all of Andersons good traits
    Jun. 10, 2022 at 12:33 a.m.
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    Quoting: DucharmetheDOMinator
    Ist different buddy
    Read my description, where I explain all of Andersons good traits


    Third line winger on last place team isn't worth 5.5.....I understand Anderson's good traits, but he's still a 40 point player
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    Jun. 10, 2022 at 12:59 a.m.
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    That’s awful for the oilers Anderson sucks
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    Jun. 10, 2022 at 1:05 a.m.
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    Quoting: dannibalcorpse
    Enjoy that contract, then. He's played 5 full NHL seasons and been above 0.5/PPG -once-.

    The issue with power forwards, and why many people don't put a high value on his contract, is that they tend to enter their decline years quicker, since they bang around more often and compile more nagging injuries. Anderson just turned 28 and is signed through his age-33 season. The likelihood that he all of a sudden jumps to a perennial 25 goal/50 point guy is low - he's at the tail end of his peak years as it is already.


    Gee, Anderson can just become like Gallagher who has fell off like a stone.
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    Jun. 10, 2022 at 1:05 a.m.
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    Covid got lots of people sick. Imagine how much worse it would be if people saw these Josh Anderson trades 🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢
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    Jun. 10, 2022 at 1:07 a.m.
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    The Oilers already have a better version of Anderson at the same cap hit in Hyman. Can't see why the Oil would be looking at him when Yamo and Pulju's combined cap may end up being the same. Just not a priority type of player at all.
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    Jun. 10, 2022 at 3:11 a.m.
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    Edited Jun. 10, 2022 at 3:54 a.m.
    Quoting: DucharmetheDOMinator
    Ist different buddy
    Read my description, where I explain all of Andersons good traits


    Your description: "Here's a heavily-biased take on the player's strengths without a hint of consideration for the acquiring team's needs or limitations. Also, his contract's term is actually a good thing that gives him MORE value and the fact that he's injury-prone doesn't matter at all. Note that any disagreement with this take means you're wrong and are undervaluing Anderson."
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    Jun. 10, 2022 at 3:46 a.m.
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    Pens laugh and hang up. For that money we could go for Nichushkin in FA who's a power forward who stays healthy and keep our picks/players.
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    Jun. 10, 2022 at 11:09 a.m.
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    Quoting: pmbrouillard
    to the Devils with 26th and 33rd for 2nd overall


    A late 1st, early 2nd, and overpaid 3rd line winger doesn’t come close to getting you 2nd overall
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    Jun. 10, 2022 at 4:55 p.m.
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    Man calls Marino overrated but proceeds to call Josh Anderson a valuable asset worth a 1st a 2nd and 2 prospects LMAO. Buddy thinks hes playing NHL GM mode
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    Jun. 10, 2022 at 5:04 p.m.
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    Anderson is a cap dump. The reality is you're stuck with his contract unless you're willing to pay AZ or Seattle to take it.

    LOL at your fantasyland proposal. Ridiculously bad take.
    Jun. 12, 2022 at 3:30 p.m.
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    there isn't a team with more bad contracts than the habs, thanks bergevin, what a fool
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    Jun. 13, 2022 at 4:27 p.m.
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    @BeterChiarelli
    I'm tagging you here, because I don't want people to see it, and they come after me, and get angry at me or something

    I was wondering if I'd be allowed to create my own GM Game on capfriendly ?
    I have some good ideas, and it would be more friendly and all.
    Is that possible for me to do?
    Jun. 13, 2022 at 4:50 p.m.
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    Quoting: DucharmetheDOMinator
    BeterChiarelli
    I'm tagging you here, because I don't want people to see it, and they come after me, and get angry at me or something

    I was wondering if I'd be allowed to create my own GM Game on capfriendly ?
    I have some good ideas, and it would be more friendly and all.
    Is that possible for me to do?


    Probably not, at least we wouldn't be able to sanction it.

    All signs are pointing to the GM Game getting shut down temporarily anyways.
    Jun. 13, 2022 at 5:08 p.m.
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    Quoting: BeterChiarelli
    Probably not, at least we wouldn't be able to sanction it.

    All signs are pointing to the GM Game getting shut down temporarily anyways.


    Okay, if you shut it down,and youd like to make a new one with a new commissioner, I'm interested. I have some ideas
    Jun. 13, 2022 at 5:40 p.m.
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    Anderson is a cap dump. The reality is you're stuck with his contract unless you're willing to pay AZ or Seattle to take it.

    LOL at your fantasyland proposal. Ridiculously bad take.


    I absolutely agree with you but I'm afraid some GM is bound to be stupid and actually spends on Anderson. How much, I don't know, frankly anything over a third is an overpayment.

    The black hole Chiarot got first plus prospect and that says all we need to know about the competence of GMs.
    Jun. 29, 2022 at 12:14 a.m.
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    Quoting: BeterChiarelli
    Probably not, at least we wouldn't be able to sanction it.

    All signs are pointing to the GM Game getting shut down temporarily anyways.


    Do you still not allow me to create another version?
    Jun. 29, 2022 at 11:51 a.m.
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    Quoting: DucharmetheDOMinator
    Do you still not allow me to create another version?


    You can create another version but we cannot sanction it.
     
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