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nurse is trash

Created by: Lebronsdad
Team: 2022-23 Edmonton Oilers
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 12, 2022
Published: Jun. 12, 2022
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Honestly everyones knows nurse aint worth 9mill I rather have that money spread out in our forwards through free agency because depth is needed more than anything. Best defence is offence.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
4$2,150,000
2$2,150,000
3$1,850,000
3$750,000
3$750,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$1,150,000
3$2,000,000
1$825,000
3$750,000
3$750,000
3$2,450,000
3$925,000
Trades
1.
VGK
  1. Nurse, Darnell
  2. 2024 2nd round pick (EDM)
Additional Details:
Second round pick upgrades to a First round pick if EDM makes Stanley cup finals in 2024.
2.
EDM
  1. 2024 1st round pick (SEA)
  2. 2024 2nd round pick (SEA)
3.
4.
VAN
  1. Benson, Tyler
  2. Kassian, Zack
  3. Smith, Mike
  4. 2022 1st round pick (EDM)
  5. 2023 3rd round pick (EDM)
  6. 2024 1st round pick (SEA)
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2022
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Logo of the EDM
2023
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2024
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Logo of the SEA
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$82,500,000$81,314,462$896,000$1,350,000$1,185,538

Roster

Left WingCentreRight Wing
$2,450,000$2,450,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$12,500,000$12,500,000
C
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$2,150,000$2,150,000
RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$8,500,000$8,500,000
C, LW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$2,150,000$2,150,000
RW
RFA - 2
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$2,750,000$2,750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$5,125,000$5,125,000
LW, C
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$500,000$500K)
LW, C
RFA - 2
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$1,500,000$1,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$1,850,000$1,850,000
C
RFA - 1
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$825,000$825,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$1,150,000$1,150,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
$925,000$925,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Vegas Golden Knights
$5,200,000$5,200,000
LD/RD
UFA - 3
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$4,500,000$4,500,000
RD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
UFA - 4
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$5,538,462$5,538,462
LD
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RD
RFA - 1
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$750,000$750,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$2,000,000$2,000,000
LD/RD
UFA - 4
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$3,250,000$3,250,000
RD
UFA - 3
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$850,000$850,000
RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$4,167,000$4,167,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 1

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Jun. 12, 2022 at 2:59 a.m.
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lol
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Jun. 12, 2022 at 3:04 a.m.
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LMAO that doesn't even get you an autographed picture of Demko
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Jun. 12, 2022 at 3:06 a.m.
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I mean no....
1. Nurse and Theodore are basically the same not worth it if you're the oilers.
2. Dadonov is not worth a 1st and a 2nd from a bad team
3. Derek Ryan is miles ahead of Austin Watson
4. Vancouver isn't giving up their best goalie since Luongo for basically a first.
5. You are really giving Cogliano 3 YEARS !!! **** you guys think Ryan and Puljujarvi can't score just wait till you see Cogliano.
Jun. 12, 2022 at 3:11 a.m.
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Take out Demko and it seems fair.

I mean I would say Vancouver rejects and spits some body of water in your face but no river, lake, waterfall, or ocean on earth is big enough to describe the amount of water that needs to be spat in your face after proposing such a ridiculous trade
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Jun. 12, 2022 at 3:16 a.m.
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Quoting: majormoose007
LMAO that doesn't even get you an autographed picture of Demko


lmfao
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Jun. 12, 2022 at 3:17 a.m.
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O_O
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Jun. 12, 2022 at 3:17 a.m.
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Theodore>>>>>Nurse.
Trades might need some reconsideration
Jun. 12, 2022 at 3:18 a.m.
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He’s not as trash as these trade offers
Jun. 12, 2022 at 3:39 a.m.
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Two cap dumps will take a first for a team to swallow. How what are you paying for Demko?
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Jun. 12, 2022 at 4:00 a.m.
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Quoting: yoseikanben
I mean no....
1. Nurse and Theodore are basically the same not worth it if you're the oilers.
2. Dadonov is not worth a 1st and a 2nd from a bad team
3. Derek Ryan is miles ahead of Austin Watson
4. Vancouver isn't giving up their best goalie since Luongo for basically a first.
5. You are really giving Cogliano 3 YEARS !!! **** you guys think Ryan and Puljujarvi can't score just wait till you see Cogliano.


theodore is a much better. theodore was in the top 99% for WAR where as nurse was in the bottom 25%. the only thing nurse has on theodore is he is more physical(but he takes way way more penalties) and he has a harder shot(but over last 3 years theodore still has 5 more goals then him).
look up JFRESH player cards and you will see their is a massive difference between the too. so ya it is worth it for edmonton to do because they save nearly 4 mill if they can move dadonov and they get a way better dman, i highly doubt vegas even considers this deal
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Jun. 12, 2022 at 4:27 a.m.
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Quoting: Dekes
theodore is a much better. theodore was in the top 99% for WAR where as nurse was in the bottom 25%. the only thing nurse has on theodore is he is more physical(but he takes way way more penalties) and he has a harder shot(but over last 3 years theodore still has 5 more goals then him).
look up JFRESH player cards and you will see their is a massive difference between the too. so ya it is worth it for edmonton to do because they save nearly 4 mill if they can move dadonov and they get a way better dman, i highly doubt vegas even considers this deal


So I actually have acess to JFresh's player card since I'm a donor on patreon to him, so I know that what you are saying is BS. For the last three years Thedore is in the 84th percentile for WAR and this year has actually been is worse year being in the 61th in WAR due to a bit of a down year in offensive play driving, dropping to 99% in EV OFF to 91% in EV OFF. Nurse while it is true that he was 21th in WAR last year, he was actually in the 86th percentile this year in WAR% and that due to a large jump in his EV DEF Going from the 3rd percentile which is trash to a really respectable 79th this year in EV DEF.

My original statement was referencing to the fact that they are both Offensive defenceman who usually really struggles on defence. While it is true that Thedore is better offensively and is a god on the PP Nurse had an intriguing jump in defence that if he can keep up might turn him into a solid top pair option down the road for the Oilers like he was this season for them.
Jun. 12, 2022 at 4:29 a.m.
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Quoting: yoseikanben
So I actually have acess to JFresh's player card since I'm a donor on patreon to him, so I know that what you are saying is BS. For the last three years Thedore is in the 84th percentile for WAR and this year has actually been is worse year being in the 61th in WAR due to a bit of a down year in offensive play driving, dropping to 99% in EV OFF to 91% in EV OFF. Nurse while it is true that he was 21th in WAR last year, he was actually in the 86th percentile this year in WAR% and that due to a large jump in his EV DEF Going from the 3rd percentile which is trash to a really respectable 79th this year in EV DEF.

My original statement was referencing to the fact that they are both Offensive defenceman who usually really struggles on defence. While it is true that Thedore is better offensively and is a god on the PP Nurse had an intriguing jump in defence that if he can keep up might turn him into a solid top pair option down the road for the Oilers like he was this season for them.


Nurse is not an offensive defenceman, if he was we would have him on the power play instead of Bouchard or barrie all the time, he's never on the PP.
Jun. 12, 2022 at 4:40 a.m.
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Nurse is not an offensive defenceman, if he was we would have him on the power play instead of Bouchard or barrie all the time, he's never on the PP.


He is an OFD, if he is not on the PP then it's not my fault if your GM is making a mistake, but it could be because Bouchard is slightly better offensively and Barrie has no value whatsoever if he isn't on the powerplay and most Power Play scheme in the NHL only includes 1 Defenceman nowadays.
Jun. 12, 2022 at 6:09 a.m.
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No Draisaitl no Demko
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Jun. 12, 2022 at 7:13 a.m.
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Theodore > Nurse. None of these trades are even remotely close.
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Jun. 12, 2022 at 7:39 a.m.
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So you say nurse is trash and the proceed to trade for the equivalent of Theodore, 1st and a 2nd?!?! What planet are you from?

Oilers are brutal and have major issues despite their run this year. Major issues in goal, defense and bottom 6
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Jun. 12, 2022 at 8:18 a.m.
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Watson is loved by the organization and team. Among all NHL forwards he is 15th in the league for hits and 10th for blocked shots.
Right or wrong, Ottawa wouldn't make this deal.
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Jun. 12, 2022 at 8:56 a.m.
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What is this Dadonov trade? ok I have to leave this ACGM, nothing makes much sense

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Derek Ryan is miles ahead of Austin Watson.


Both have 1 year left at about the same AAV. Sens don't make that trade. They also don't really like smaller guys. Brannstrom will probably be the only guy below 6'0

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Nurse and Theodore are basically the same not worth it if you're the oilers.


I really hate when fans call NHL players trash. Nurse has a really bad contract but he's not trash. He was playing injured.

That being said, Shea Theodore is miles better. No way Vegas make this deal
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Jun. 12, 2022 at 12:06 p.m.
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hh
Jun. 12, 2022 at 12:07 p.m.
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Just freeing up cap space with dadonov everyone does good with mcdavid like how Kane did, everyone has career years with mcdavid, so why not get the same production for much less and not have to worry about resigning him. Austin Watson maybe a 5th round pick or 4th round pick with Ryan would do the trick? yea that's kinda what I mean his contract is really bad if you read the team explanation.
Jun. 12, 2022 at 12:45 p.m.
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Vegas laughs and sends you an evander kane casino bill instead
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Jun. 12, 2022 at 2:20 p.m.
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Quoting: yoseikanben
So I actually have acess to JFresh's player card since I'm a donor on patreon to him, so I know that what you are saying is BS. For the last three years Thedore is in the 84th percentile for WAR and this year has actually been is worse year being in the 61th in WAR due to a bit of a down year in offensive play driving, dropping to 99% in EV OFF to 91% in EV OFF. Nurse while it is true that he was 21th in WAR last year, he was actually in the 86th percentile this year in WAR% and that due to a large jump in his EV DEF Going from the 3rd percentile which is trash to a really respectable 79th this year in EV DEF.

My original statement was referencing to the fact that they are both Offensive defenceman who usually really struggles on defence. While it is true that Thedore is better offensively and is a god on the PP Nurse had an intriguing jump in defence that if he can keep up might turn him into a solid top pair option down the road for the Oilers like he was this season for them.


i was looking at both their 3 year weighted data not just one season. hence the reason i brought up over the last 3 seasons theodore had more goals. Basing a player off one season is ridiculous because anyone can just explode one season then come back to earth and average out for the rest of their career
Jun. 12, 2022 at 2:21 p.m.
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Very easy no from VAN, they are not moving Demko.
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Jun. 12, 2022 at 2:29 p.m.
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No Draisaitl no Demko


okay now this is too far lol you already overrate vancouver players by a mile, wanting eichel like return for miller. but come on draisaitl is a top 5 player in the league, demko isn't even a top 5 goalie in the league. Not to mention goalies hold far less value then Centers do. Colorado and edmonton just proved you don't need even a top 10 goalie in the league to make the finals. Colorado has made the finals with riding francouz nearly 50% of playoffs.

and if you want my rankings for goalies here it goes
1. Vasilevsky
2. Shesterkin
3. Saros
4. Markstrom
5. Oettinger
6. Sorokin
7. Husso
8. Hellebuyck
9. Demko

and even then out of all these goalies only the top 2 would i ever consider moving Drai for
Jun. 12, 2022 at 2:56 p.m.
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Quoting: Dekes
okay now this is too far lol you already overrate vancouver players by a mile, wanting eichel like return for miller. but come on draisaitl is a top 5 player in the league, demko isn't even a top 5 goalie in the league. Not to mention goalies hold far less value then Centers do. Colorado and edmonton just proved you don't need even a top 10 goalie in the league to make the finals. Colorado has made the finals with riding francouz nearly 50% of playoffs.

and if you want my rankings for goalies here it goes
1. Vasilevsky
2. Shesterkin
3. Saros
4. Markstrom
5. Oettinger
6. Sorokin
7. Husso
8. Hellebuyck
9. Demko

and even then out of all these goalies only the top 2 would i ever consider moving Drai for


Oettinger is good but not better than Demko. Having Husso that high is laughable. I’d also take Demko over Markstrom and Sorokin, but those two are close. He’s also close with Saros and Hellebuyck imo

Obviously Demko doesn’t return Drai though
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