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Team: 2022-23 Buffalo Sabres
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 12, 2022
Published: Jun. 12, 2022
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$762,500
3$1,200,000
3$1,200,000
4$5,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$850,000
1$750,000
1$750,000
1$750,000
1$750,000
2$4,000,000
Trades
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  1. 2023 2nd round pick (VGK)
Buyouts
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2022
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2023
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2024
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$82,500,000$65,489,167$0$3,120,000$17,010,833
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$9,000,000$9,000,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 5
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$1,400,000$1,400,000
C
UFA - 1
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$4,750,000$4,750,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
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$825,000$825,000
LW, C
RFA - 1
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
LW, C
RFA - 2
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$855,833$855,833 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
LW, RW
RFA - 3
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$2,200,000$2,200,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RW, LW
RFA - 3
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$412,500$412K)
C, LW
RFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
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$4,687,500$4,687,500
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M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
RD
RFA - 2
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$1,200,000$1,200,000
G
RFA - 2
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$916,667$916,667 (Performance Bonus$925,000$925K)
LD/RD
UFA - 2
$4,000,000$4,000,000
RD
UFA
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$1,200,000$1,200,000
LD/RD
RFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$750,000$750,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$4,916,667$4,916,667
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M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
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$1,600,000$1,600,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$850,000$850,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 1

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Jun. 12, 2022 at 8:31 a.m.
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I think you're selling yourself a little short to be honest. That's a ton if money owed to Murray. Sure I get BUF can take the Cap Hit no problem. It's still $15M owed to him. That's a lot of cheese.
Jun. 12, 2022 at 8:33 a.m.
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The trade is not happening.
Jun. 12, 2022 at 9:26 a.m.
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not worth it for the Sens, they value JBD highly. it'd cost at most a 2nd round pick to shed Murray's contract if they're that desperate (which they shouldn't be), so they might as well just do that since they certainly value JBD higher than a 2nd
Jun. 12, 2022 at 9:33 a.m.
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not worth it for the Sens, they value JBD highly. it'd cost at most a 2nd round pick to shed Murray's contract if they're that desperate (which they shouldn't be), so they might as well just do that since they certainly value JBD higher than a 2nd


They value him so highly, they already gave Thomson twice as many games as him and have 3 RHD under contract next year already, leading to him likely FINISHING his elc with under 50 NHL games.
Jun. 12, 2022 at 10:04 a.m.
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They value him so highly, they already gave Thomson twice as many games as him and have 3 RHD under contract next year already, leading to him likely FINISHING his elc with under 50 NHL games.


this is such a weird thing to try to argue, whether or not you think that the org that you're not a fan of values a prospect. but also JBD played with Sanderson already in North Dakota so there's built-in chemistry there and between Chabot and Sanderson on the left side, defensive stability in their own end is what the Sens need from their right side. the Sens giving one prospect more NHL games than the other doesn't mean one is valued higher than the other. maybe they think Thomson is closer to NHL ready, or maybe they think they can play more fast-and-loose with his development and bring him up and down, whereas they would rather give JBD steady minutes in Belleville and play it safe. Zaitsev is very unlikely to be back next season, and there'll be a spot to fill. After this season, Hamonic is gone too, so even if they bring in somebody else on RD, then a spot will open for JBD soon. Also him staying in the minors for now will also mean his next contract off his ELC will almost certainly be cheaper.
You decided that you felt like arguing the point of "the Sens value a former 1st round pick higher than a 2nd round pick, so they would just keep the player and use a 2nd instead"??? that's a hill you're dying on bro?

Don't talk with that condescending tone when you only know what you looked up on hockeydb.
Jun. 12, 2022 at 10:08 a.m.
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this is such a weird thing to try to argue, whether or not you think that the org that you're not a fan of values a prospect. but also JBD played with Sanderson already in North Dakota so there's built-in chemistry there and between Chabot and Sanderson on the left side, defensive stability in their own end is what the Sens need from their right side. the Sens giving one prospect more NHL games than the other doesn't mean one is valued higher than the other. maybe they think Thomson is closer to NHL ready, or maybe they think they can play more fast-and-loose with his development and bring him up and down, whereas they would rather give JBD steady minutes in Belleville and play it safe. Zaitsev is very unlikely to be back next season, and there'll be a spot to fill. After this season, Hamonic is gone too, so even if they bring in somebody else on RD, then a spot will open for JBD soon. Also him staying in the minors for now will also mean his next contract off his ELC will almost certainly be cheaper.
You decided that you felt like arguing the point of "the Sens value a former 1st round pick higher than a 2nd round pick, so they would just keep the player and use a 2nd instead"??? that's a hill you're dying on bro?

Don't talk with that condescending tone when you only know what you looked up on hockeydb.


There certainly is condescension here, but maybe look in the mirror pal.
Jun. 12, 2022 at 10:23 a.m.
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
There certainly is condescension here, but maybe look in the mirror pal.


then actually understand what's going on before speaking on it next time
Jun. 12, 2022 at 10:50 a.m.
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They aren’t against the cap so not sure why Ottawa would give up one of their top D prospects for a cap dump.
Jun. 12, 2022 at 1:11 p.m.
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Quoting: exo2769
I think you're selling yourself a little short to be honest. That's a ton if money owed to Murray. Sure I get BUF can take the Cap Hit no problem. It's still $15M owed to him. That's a lot of cheese.


Yes, I was going to talk about this.

It really depends what each ownership think of the financial aspect here

If Melnyk was still alive, I would say "Sens will do that" but as of now and unknown future regarding ownership, I don't know.

Management love their JBD, that would be a call for ownership


So since the Sens won't have cap problems during the 2 years left on Murray's contract, they could just sit him to be the 3rd guy or give him a chance to play when healthy. Very good chance he just ends on LTIR too so no need to "dump him" that much


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They value him so highly, they already gave Thomson twice as many games as him and have 3 RHD under contract next year already, leading to him likely FINISHING his elc with under 50 NHL games.


ok I hope/think nobody took this as a valid argument. Development isn't linear, Sens are taking their time to develop their guys (Batherson spent 2 years in the AHL before graduating) and he was PPG at 23 years old. The only exceptions were Takchuk (obvious physical reasons) and Tim Stutzle (obvious talent reasons)

They are not going to rush Thomson or JBD until they are 100% ready

Zub is a piece going forward but Zaitsev and Hamonic are stop gaps (probably wish Zaitsev deal would already be over)

Both JBD and Thomson will get call-ups this season (always depends on injuries), then there will be at least 1 full-time job the year after that. Sens could afford to trade one
 
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