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Definition of Optimism

Created by: F1rstRound
Published: Jun. 12, 2022 at 3:14 p.m.
Salary Cap: $82,500,000
Season Days: 185/186 (99%)
Central Registry Determination: This trade has been rejected because the cap hit of one of the teams is below the lower limit

Logo of the Arizona CoyotesArizona Coyotes

OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Fischer, ChristianArizona CoyotesNHL-$0011---0000--
Vejmelka, KarelArizona CoyotesNHL50%$1,355,174011-------00
2023 5th round pick (Logo of the Arizona CoyotesARI)---001------
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Myers, TylerVancouver CanucksNHL-$5,967,742011---0000--
Poolman, TuckerVancouver CanucksIR-$2,486,559011---0000--
2023 3rd round pick (Logo of the Toronto Maple LeafsTOR)---010------
2024 3rd round pick (Logo of the Vancouver CanucksVAN)---010------
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$33,194,16617294951312
Change-$7,099,127-11002-1
Final$26,095,039 (↓)16 (↓)30 (↑)49515 (↑)11 (↓)000

Logo of the Toronto Maple LeafsToronto Maple Leafs

OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Kerfoot, AlexanderToronto Maple LeafsNHL-$3,481,183011---0000--
Sandin, RasmusToronto Maple LeafsNHL-$0011---0000--
2022 1st round pick (Logo of the Toronto Maple LeafsTOR)---100------
2023 3rd round pick (Logo of the Toronto Maple LeafsTOR)---010------
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Miller, J.T.Vancouver CanucksNHL-$5,221,774011---0000--
Fischer, ChristianArizona CoyotesNHL-$0011---0000--
Vejmelka, KarelArizona CoyotesNHL50%$1,355,174011-------00
2023 5th round pick (Logo of the Arizona CoyotesARI)---001------
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$7,844,384173854338
Change-$3,095,765111-1-11
Final$4,748,619 (↓)18 (↑)39 (↑)55 (↑)2 (↓)2 (↓)9 (↑)000

Logo of the Vancouver CanucksVancouver Canucks

OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Myers, TylerVancouver CanucksNHL-$5,967,742011---0000--
Miller, J.T.Vancouver CanucksNHL-$5,221,774011---0000--
Poolman, TuckerVancouver CanucksIR-$2,486,559011---0000--
2024 3rd round pick (Logo of the Vancouver CanucksVAN)---010------
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Kerfoot, AlexanderToronto Maple LeafsNHL-$3,481,183011---0000--
Sandin, RasmusToronto Maple LeafsNHL-$0011---0000--
2022 1st round pick (Logo of the Toronto Maple LeafsTOR)---100------
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$10,598,3331628453512
Change$10,194,8920-2-11-10
Final$20,793,225 (↑)1626 (↓)44 (↓)4 (↑)4 (↓)12000
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Jun. 12, 2022 at 3:26 p.m.
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Im just throwing stuff out there but this would be cool to see.

Vancouver: gets their haul for miller, top 4 D in sandin, hometown boy Kerfoot, and a 1st, and also clears cap. Checks all their boxes

Arizona: Takes on bad contracts but gets back 2 3rds, they do retain 50% of vejmelka so they get closer to the cap floor and it gives toronto more cap to work with.

Toronto: Leaf fans probably hate to say goodbye to sandin and kerfoot but if you want miller thats likely what you’re gonna have to give up. Miller gives you grit, speed, and leadership. Fischer is a gritty who will battle, exactly what toronto needs. They also pick up Vejmelka, not sure if hes a starter yet but he looked solid behind arizonas D core. Also pick up a 5th rounder.
Jun. 12, 2022 at 5:29 p.m.
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Vancouver is going to want significantly more for JT Miller
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Jun. 12, 2022 at 8:54 p.m.
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Quoting: F1rstRound
Im just throwing stuff out there but this would be cool to see.

Vancouver: gets their haul for miller, top 4 D in sandin, hometown boy Kerfoot, and a 1st, and also clears cap. Checks all their boxes

Arizona: Takes on bad contracts but gets back 2 3rds, they do retain 50% of vejmelka so they get closer to the cap floor and it gives toronto more cap to work with.

Toronto: Leaf fans probably hate to say goodbye to sandin and kerfoot but if you want miller thats likely what you’re gonna have to give up. Miller gives you grit, speed, and leadership. Fischer is a gritty who will battle, exactly what toronto needs. They also pick up Vejmelka, not sure if hes a starter yet but he looked solid behind arizonas D core. Also pick up a 5th rounder.


This is way too sku'd to VAN. They dump 2 contracts they don't want, and get a great return for Miller. ARI gets absolutely screwed. TOR gives up way too much for Miller and a goaltender that isn't completely proven.
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Jun. 12, 2022 at 9:02 p.m.
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Send Demko to AZ and the trade becomes fair.
Jun. 12, 2022 at 10:15 p.m.
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This is a massive underpayment for Miller.

Arizona is getting cap hits for cheaper than the Canucks would have to pay to unload them.

This just makes little sense.
Jun. 13, 2022 at 12:02 a.m.
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Bruce, there it goes
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Underpayment for Miller, you need to add another 2nd or 1st to make this work, and I'm not sure Arizona accepts even though they are struggling to meet the cap floor
Jun. 13, 2022 at 8:01 p.m.
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Quoting: CanucksInPurgatory
Underpayment for Miller, you need to add another 2nd or 1st to make this work, and I'm not sure Arizona accepts even though they are struggling to meet the cap floor


true but its not like an eriksson cap dump, at least myers and poolman can play
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