SalarySwishSalarySwish
Forums/Armchair-GM

For Fun

Created by: H_91
Team: 2022-23 Tampa Bay Lightning
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 12, 2022
Published: Jun. 12, 2022
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$875,000
3$1,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
5$4,000,000
5$3,000,000
3$1,500,000
2$1,750,000
Trades
1.
TBL
  1. Walman, Jake [RFA Rights]
  2. 2022 3rd round pick (DET)
2.
TBL
  1. Kirsanov, Kirill [Reserve List]
  2. Vilardi, Gabriel [RFA Rights]
  3. 2022 2nd round pick (LAK)
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2022
Logo of the TBL
Logo of the LAK
Logo of the DET
Logo of the CHI
Logo of the TBL
Logo of the TBL
Logo of the DET
Logo of the TBL
Logo of the NYR
2023
Logo of the TBL
Logo of the TBL
Logo of the TBL
Logo of the TBL
Logo of the TBL
Logo of the ANA
2024
Logo of the TBL
Logo of the TBL
Logo of the CHI
Logo of the TBL
Logo of the TBL
Logo of the TBL
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$82,500,000$80,283,333$0$0$2,216,667
Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
$4,000,000$4,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 5
Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
$9,500,000$9,500,000
C, RW
UFA - 8
Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
$9,500,000$9,500,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
$1,500,000$1,500,000
LW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
$4,800,000$4,800,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
$8,500,000$8,500,000
LW, C
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
$3,000,000$3,000,000
C, LW
UFA - 7
Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
$1,125,000$1,125,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
$1,000,000$1,000,000
RW, C
RFA - 1
Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
$800,000$800,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
$1,000,000$1,000,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
$1,000,000$1,000,000
RW
NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
$758,333$758,333
RW, LW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
$7,875,000$7,875,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
$1,500,000$1,500,000
LD/RD
UFA - 3
Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
$9,500,000$9,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
$6,750,000$6,750,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
$2,950,000$2,950,000
RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
$900,000$900,000
G
UFA - 1
$1,750,000$1,750,000
LD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
$850,000$850,000
RD
RFA - 1
$875,000$875,000
LD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
$850,000$850,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
$6,875,000$6,875,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2

Embed Code

  • To display this team on another website or blog, add this iFrame to the appropriate page
  • Customize the height attribute in the iFrame code below to fit your website appropriately. Minimum recommended: 400px.

Text-Embed

Click to Highlight
Jun. 12, 2022 at 8:12 p.m.
#1
Buffbry
Avatar of the user
Joined: Aug. 2017
Posts: 8,844
Likes: 5,309
Wings pass, Tampa pays for us to take their cap problems
Jun. 12, 2022 at 8:17 p.m.
#2
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jul. 2021
Posts: 435
Likes: 301
Quoting: buffbry
Wings pass, Tampa pays for us to take their cap problems


Yeah no. 59 pts in 82 games is not a “cap problem”. Wings take this trade and run and turn it into a 1st or 2nd+ at deadline with retention.
EsoYeezus69 liked this.
Jun. 12, 2022 at 8:18 p.m.
#3
Banned
Avatar of the user
Joined: Feb. 2022
Posts: 7,792
Likes: 4,483
You pay us to take Killorn off your hands not the other way around.

Ondrej Palat on the open market will get 5.5 x 5 he's not taking that much less to remain in Tampa.
Jun. 12, 2022 at 8:20 p.m.
#4
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jul. 2021
Posts: 435
Likes: 301
Quoting: TampaBayLightning22
You pay us to take Killorn off your hands not the other way around.

Ondrej Palat on the open market will get 5.5 x 5 he's not taking that much less to remain in Tampa.


You’re smoking something fierce if you think anyone is getting payed to take a 25 goal scorer with ~60 points. That’s not how cap dumps work.

Remember we payed a second for Nick Leddy while the isles were strapped for cap space. If Tampa made Killorn available they’d have teams lining up to pay more then a third.
Jun. 12, 2022 at 8:20 p.m.
#5
Banned
Avatar of the user
Joined: Feb. 2022
Posts: 7,792
Likes: 4,483
Quoting: Mystaes
Yeah no. 59 pts in 82 games is not a “cap problem”. Wings take this trade and run and turn it into a 1st or 2nd+ at deadline with retention.


Yeah no we don't, There is no way Yzerman lets JBB off the hook because Tampa is over the cap. You want to clear cap space it's going to be painful.
Billy12Bob liked this.
Jun. 12, 2022 at 8:22 p.m.
#6
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jul. 2021
Posts: 435
Likes: 301
Quoting: TampaBayLightning22
Yeah no we don't, There is no way Yzerman lets JBB off the hook because Tampa is over the cap. You want to clear cap space it's going to be painful.


Nick Leddy was cleared cap space from the isles. More cap space for less of a player and it cost the wings a second.

Just because we take cap space back doesn’t mean we get payed if that player is actually legitimately good. If you retained on killorn at the deadline you would net a damn first back.

Smh. Paid to take killorn. Rofl.
Jun. 12, 2022 at 8:24 p.m.
#7
Banned
Avatar of the user
Joined: Feb. 2022
Posts: 7,792
Likes: 4,483
Quoting: Mystaes
Nick Leddy was cleared cap space from the isles. More cap space for less of a player and it cost the wings a second.

Just because we take cap space back doesn’t mean we get payed if that player is actually legitimately good. If you retained on killorn at the deadline you would net a damn first back.

Smh. Paid to take killorn. Rofl.


laugh Then you obviously don't know your own GM to well. Because Yzerman isn't giving up assets for his own former player just to bail out his old team that's not how it works.
Billy12Bob liked this.
Jun. 12, 2022 at 8:28 p.m.
#8
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jul. 2021
Posts: 435
Likes: 301
Quoting: TampaBayLightning22
laugh Then you obviously don't know your own GM to well. Because Yzerman isn't giving up assets for his own former player just to bail out his old team that's not how it works.


I know he would because he’s already done it. Are you even listening to yourself? Nick. Leddy.

He would give up a third if he thought he could flip and get more at the deadline and it would benefit the team in the meantime. You literally just watched him pull this play with Giving up a second for Leddy and then flipping him - could have gotten more if he hadn’t been trash.

Your valuation is incredibly off. Teams will line up to pay more then a third for killorn if he is made available. Because those teams will view him as an asset that improves their team instead of “just a cap hit”.

Thinking someone would pay you to take Killorn is just out of touch with reality. Other way around. There would be a small bidding war to get him.
Jun. 12, 2022 at 8:33 p.m.
#9
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jun. 2021
Posts: 3,612
Likes: 3,044
I seriously doubt Yzerman gives a crap about “bailing out his old team” If the value is there he will make the trade
Mystaes, Devil, csick and 2 others liked this.
Jun. 12, 2022 at 9:02 p.m.
#10
Buffbry
Avatar of the user
Joined: Aug. 2017
Posts: 8,844
Likes: 5,309
Quoting: Mystaes
Yeah no. 59 pts in 82 games is not a “cap problem”. Wings take this trade and run and turn it into a 1st or 2nd+ at deadline with retention.


Nope you have cap issues, you can pay us to take him or keep the cap issues. We are fine either not taking him from you
Jun. 12, 2022 at 9:10 p.m.
#11
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jul. 2021
Posts: 435
Likes: 301
Quoting: buffbry
Nope you have cap issues, you can pay us to take him or keep the cap issues. We are fine either not taking him from you


I am literally a wings fan.

Part of having capspace is you have room to get premium flippable assets when they are available for below market cost. Cap flexibility is literally being taken into account by the poster - it’s why killorn is so cheap.

We got nedelkovich from Carolina because they wanted cap flexibility - it cost us a third.

We got Leddy from the isles because they needed cap flexibility - we paid a second.

Valuation of the player being moved needs to be taken into account.

Tampa will have no problem moving killorn I’d they want and they’ll probably get way more then this for it. Steve would be mad not to accept this trade and then turn killorn into a premium asset by trading a playoff bound team a 25 goal scorer and playoff performer for 2m with retention at the deadline.
capsfan2121, JTBF81 and justaBoss liked this.
Jun. 12, 2022 at 9:18 p.m.
#12
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jul. 2021
Posts: 435
Likes: 301
Multiquoted*
Jun. 12, 2022 at 10:02 p.m.
#13
Avatar of the user
Joined: May 2016
Posts: 1,739
Likes: 971
Wings pass, Killorn does nothing for them
Jun. 13, 2022 at 5:18 a.m.
#14
Avatar of the user
Joined: Sep. 2020
Posts: 5,588
Likes: 3,001
Quoting: Mystaes
I am literally a wings fan.

Part of having capspace is you have room to get premium flippable assets when they are available for below market cost. Cap flexibility is literally being taken into account by the poster - it’s why killorn is so cheap.

We got nedelkovich from Carolina because they wanted cap flexibility - it cost us a third.

We got Leddy from the isles because they needed cap flexibility - we paid a second.

Valuation of the player being moved needs to be taken into account.

Tampa will have no problem moving killorn I’d they want and they’ll probably get way more then this for it. Steve would be mad not to accept this trade and then turn killorn into a premium asset by trading a playoff bound team a 25 goal scorer and playoff performer for 2m with retention at the deadline.


Where would you play him?

Detroit have Vrána, Bertuzzi, Fabbri already on the left side.

If Killorn had been a RW I could have understood your reasoning but left wing is not a position where Detroit have any roster spots open.
Jun. 13, 2022 at 1:00 p.m.
#15
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jul. 2019
Posts: 2,445
Likes: 546
Quoting: buffbry
Nope you have cap issues, you can pay us to take him or keep the cap issues. We are fine either not taking him from you


Tampa has basically no cap issues this coming off-season. If Killorn was to be made available, Tampa would not be paying anyone to move him
Jun. 13, 2022 at 1:05 p.m.
#16
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jul. 2019
Posts: 2,445
Likes: 546
Quoting: TampaBayLightning22
Yeah no we don't, There is no way Yzerman lets JBB off the hook because Tampa is over the cap. You want to clear cap space it's going to be painful.


No, Killorn will likely return at least a 2nd, if not a little.more. Tampa doesn't have to move him for one, and secondly, a player like him isn't a negative value cap dump. He would ha e value, maybe not to Detroit but Tampa laughs at any team thinking they are getting him for free or with sweeteners.
Jun. 13, 2022 at 1:11 p.m.
#17
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jul. 2019
Posts: 2,445
Likes: 546
Quoting: Mystaes
I know he would because he’s already done it. Are you even listening to yourself? Nick. Leddy.

He would give up a third if he thought he could flip and get more at the deadline and it would benefit the team in the meantime. You literally just watched him pull this play with Giving up a second for Leddy and then flipping him - could have gotten more if he hadn’t been trash.

Your valuation is incredibly off. Teams will line up to pay more then a third for killorn if he is made available. Because those teams will view him as an asset that improves their team instead of “just a cap hit”.

Thinking someone would pay you to take Killorn is just out of touch with reality. Other way around. There would be a small bidding war to get him.


Agreed, while Detroit may not be the best fit, if Tampa decided to move him, a 2nd+mid pick or prospect seems at least what Tampa could get for him.
 
Reply
To create a post please Login or Register
Question:
Options:
Add Option
Submit Poll