Yeah that definitely gets you sandin luckily there’s pretty much an agreement around the league to not offer sheet RFA’s

Would be pretty odd if Calgary traded Toffoli for that much cheaper compared to what they paid just a few months ago

It wouldn't likely happen, Blake and Dubas are one anothers favorite trade partners. But if the Kings lose out on Chychrun their options get limited and it would have to be something considered. Ideally replace Sandin with Chychrun and you have what I really want this season.

This was proposed earlier today not by me. Check Calgary's cap space, if you want to sign Gaudreau, Tkachuk, and get a cheaper RD option this ticks boxes.

Seems like an interesting move to offer sheet a defenseman for a team flush with young defenseman coming up who need spots in the lineup.

RD yes, LD no.

Party on…I’m here for the chaos.

Why would your other RFA's (who have arbitration rights) take substantially less so you can overpay some guy from another team who hasn't even played a full season yet? Giving that contract to Sandin is an awful idea, forget that it's an offer sheet he won't sign or could even get matched (yes the Leafs could match it if they wanted to).

I feel like sanheim could be a good fit to and yeah it would be really smart to offer sheet him but there’s only been 4 players that have signed offer sheets in the last decade weber,O’Rielly,Aho,Kotkaniemi and only one of of them wasn’t matched

But they wouldn’t want to he’s the 7th defensemen right now can’t afford to pay him 4 million

Because it is an option to get something the Kings have coveted for several seasons. Blake indicated he was looking hard for a "‘dynamic, young, left-shot defensemen."

This is an option if we lose out on Chychrun, and it's unlikely the Leafs match which would leave very little room for a still unsigned starting goalie.

I think it's that he's so raw, and paired with Matt Roy he could really blossom. Like I said earlier, this isn't my primary hope for the season, but an option to look at.

Not saying they would want to (or even that they would) but they CAN. It's not a "backed into a corner" situation.

I find it hard to believe there's an NHL GM out there willing to give him that contract. No agent is ever going to take less than full freight from you again if you're offering that to a guy who hasn't played 100 games in the NHL. That's probably 4x what his value is right now.

Yeah, but if the analytics say this player is going to be a lock at 2LD for 5 years, it's worth it. This is the same gamble Carolina took. If you could get Sandin for a 2nd rounder by overpaying a year or two, you do it.

Ollie is a troll check some of his other posts. Not a good source for opinions

I'd definitely up it to a 2nd, but Walker has gone on this site several times as a 2nd. I think two seconds for a team who needs to clear cap space for Toffoli who declined a bit is not out-worldish.

To be tendered an offer sheet, a player must: Have at least one NHL contract expire. Have played at least 80 NHL games if a forward or defenseman, or 28 NHL games if a goalie (applies only for players who have 3 years of NHL service). Be younger than 27 on July 1 of that year. Be without a contract for the upcoming season.

I really wonder if Sandin and Liljegren are eligible for offer sheets. One season ago, Sandin played just 9 games.....IMO that does not constitute and NHL season so he doesn't have 3 years of NHL service.
Liljegren has not played 80 NHL games...so I'm thinking he isn't eligible either .

I could be wrong, but I swear I've read on multiple sites that both were eligible.

To be totally transparent, I really think this is hyper unlikely, Blake hasn't burned a GM yet, and I doubt he'd do it to Dubas (his primary trade partner).

But looking at options at LD is difficult, this is not a great UFA class and if we lose out on Chychrun we are probably worse off this year.

It looks that he has played his 80 games (88), has signed one NHL contract, and is younger than 27. I believe that meets eligibility.

I wish CF could prefer a list of "offer sheet" eligible players. Many folks on CF...just read the first line....."Have at least one NHL contract expire." My thought, folks have the read the all the clauses in the offer sheet eligibility. It's not like we see all kinds of offer sheets for players that has just completed his ELC

Agreed. I had this same issue a year ago.

Sandin has played 88, so just makes the threshold.

What analytics tell you he's an absolute lock at 2LD for the next 5 years based on 88 games played? You are greatly overvaluing a player you clearly haven't watched play.

I'm thinking his JUST nine games played in that one particular season, does not constitute a "season". for offer sheet purposes.

I'm sorry, yes, I haven't seen every game he has played. But his WAR percentile, adaptability, draft profile, and physical prowess seems like a player worth taking a gamble on for a team with cap space currently. If he's up for trade, I can take that path too, but I've been told he isn't for sale.

If you read what a wrote, IMO, the JUST the nine games in played in one season, does not constitute "a season" for offer sheet purposes.

Obviously you don't read what I write.....never did a say "What analytics tell you he's an absolute lock at 2LD for the next 5 years based on 88 games played? You are greatly overvaluing a player you clearly haven't watched play.[/quote]".
Please don't tell me I wrote, and please don't tell me who have watched player.