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Asking about Value please chime in

Created by: Rob32sjsharks
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 14, 2022
Published: Jun. 14, 2022
Team: 2022-23 San Jose Sharks
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any team and anyone please let me know what you think?
and no rude comments or attitude please, I'm just trying to gauge value here not be insulted.
Trades
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SJS
  1. Lundkvist, Nils
NYR
    with Fox Trouba and Schnieder, Lundkvist is the odd man out, what would you ask for him?
    2.
    SJS
    1. Mailloux, Logan [Reserve List]
    MTL
      Lots of fan Backlash when you took him last year, any chance you guys would be open to dealing him?
      3.
      SJS
      1. Chychrun, Jakob
      ARI
        whats the current ask for him? last i saw was 2 firsts and 2 1st caliber prospects. is that still the ask?
        4.
        SJS
          Is there any team out there who wants Karlsson? and how much retention would be needed?
          DAL
          1. Karlsson, Erik
          5.
          SJS
            Does Labanc have any value to anyone? how much would we have to add to move him?
            SEA
            1. Labanc, Kevin
            Buyouts
            • Martin Jones: $2,416,667
            Retained Salary Transactions
            • Brent Burns: $2,720,000 (34%)
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            2023
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            ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
            24$82,500,000$66,882,500$0$1,397,500$15,617,500
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            Meier, Timo
            $6,000,000
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            Hertl, Tomas
            $8,137,500
            C, RW
            NMC
            UFA - 8
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            Barabanov, Alexander
            $2,500,000
            RW, LW
            NTC
            UFA - 2
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            Balcers, Rūdolfs
            $1,550,000
            LW, RW
            RFA - 1
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            Couture, Logan
            $8,000,000
            C, LW
            NTC
            UFA - 5
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            Reedy, Scott
            $842,500
            C
            RFA - 1
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            Balcers, Rūdolfs
            $750,000
            LW, RW
            RFA - 1
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            Bonino, Nick
            $2,050,000
            C, LW
            NTC
            UFA - 1
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            Nieto, Matt
            $850,000
            LW, RW
            UFA - 1
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            Bordeleau, Thomas
            $916,667
            C
            RFA - 2
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            Viel, Jeffrey
            $750,000
            LW
            RFA - 1
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            Weatherby, Jasper
            $842,500
            C
            RFA - 1
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            Pederson, Lane
            $750,000
            C
            RFA - 1
            Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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            Chychrun, Jakob
            $4,600,000
            LD/RD
            UFA - 3
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            Burns, Brent
            $5,280,000
            RD
            NTC
            UFA - 3
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            Reimer, James
            $2,250,000
            G
            NTC
            UFA - 1
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            Knyzhov, Nikolai
            $850,000
            LD/RD
            RFA - 1
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            Lundkvist, Nils
            $925,000
            RD
            RFA - 2
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            Hill, Adin
            $2,175,000
            G
            UFA - 1
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            Megna, Jaycob
            $762,500
            LD
            UFA - 2
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            Merkley, Ryan
            $863,333
            RD
            RFA - 1
            ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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            Vlasic, Marc-Édouard
            $7,000,000
            LD/RD
            NMC
            UFA - 4
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            Simek, Radim
            $2,250,000
            LD/RD
            UFA - 2
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            Hatakka, Santeri
            $850,833
            LD
            RFA - 2

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            Jun. 14 at 8:26 p.m.
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            There is always the possibility Lundqvist makes the team as LD or Schneider moves to LD and Nils plays RD. Drury isn't giving him away just because Schneider passed him on the depth chart this season. If he gets traded, my bet would be as part of a package deal for a top-6 forward.
            Jun. 14 at 8:27 p.m.
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            I think Montreal would be willing to trade Mailloux, especially if they could package their Calgary pick at 26, Mailloux plus whatever else necessary in order to get to the Sharks’ spot in the draft
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            Jun. 14 at 8:30 p.m.
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            Why would these be targets at all? We arent losing Karlsson.

            Also dont take Mallioux, doing that is just asking for trouble
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            Jun. 14 at 8:30 p.m.
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            Quoting: KentMcNally
            I think Montreal would be willing to trade Mailloux, especially if they could package their Calgary pick at 26, Mailloux plus whatever else necessary in order to get to the Sharks’ spot in the draft


            The sharks arent trading down especially not for a criminal.
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            Jun. 14 at 8:31 p.m.
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            Quoting: KentMcNally
            I think Montreal would be willing to trade Mailloux, especially if they could package their Calgary pick at 26, Mailloux plus whatever else necessary in order to get to the Sharks’ spot in the draft


            the 26th and Mailoux for the 11th? that's a lot to think about, maybe add a 3rd coming back to the sharks and i would be OK with it.
            thanks!
            Jun. 14 at 8:31 p.m.
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            As a spokesman for habs fans on capfriendly.com i would like to let you know that we are open to deal him, the cost to aquire mailloux is a 1st round pick.
            Jun. 14 at 8:32 p.m.
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            Quoting: papishark
            The sharks arent trading down especially not for a criminal.


            What crime has he committed ?
            Jun. 14 at 8:33 p.m.
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            Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
            the 26th and Mailoux for the 11th? that's a lot to think about, maybe add a 3rd coming back to the sharks and i would be OK with it.
            thanks!

            Mailloux and 26th is more than generous as it is
            Jun. 14 at 8:33 p.m.
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            Quoting: papishark
            Why would these be targets at all? We arent losing Karlsson.

            Also dont take Mallioux, doing that is just asking for trouble


            He made one bonehead mistake. how many of us talked about sex and who we were hooking up with in the locker room as kids?
            yes what he did was wrong but i think giving up on him for 1 mistake is foolish. he has shown remorse, and has been willing to do whatever it takes to get past this and i am wiling to overlook the incident personally.
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            Jun. 14 at 8:34 p.m.
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            Quoting: SMH
            As a spokesman for habs fans on capfriendly.com i would like to let you know that we are open to deal him, the cost to aquire mailloux is a 1st round pick.


            that's a tall order, he was taken at the end of the 1st last year and has baggage. i was thinking a 2nd.
            Jun. 14 at 8:35 p.m.
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            Quoting: SMH
            What crime has he committed ?


            he took a photo of his girlfriend preforming a sexual act and showed it to his teammates.
            Jun. 14 at 8:36 p.m.
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            Quoting: delneggs
            There is always the possibility Lundqvist makes the team as LD or Schneider moves to LD and Nils plays RD. Drury isn't giving him away just because Schneider passed him on the depth chart this season. If he gets traded, my bet would be as part of a package deal for a top-6 forward.


            I was thinking a package for him like a top forward prospect and a 2nd for him not getting him for nothing.
            just seeing whats out there before i write up another sharks ACGM.
            Jun. 14 at 8:42 p.m.
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            Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
            that's a tall order, he was taken at the end of the 1st last year and has baggage. i was thinking a 2nd.


            He was available at 32 only because of the baggage and in the few games he did play this year he showed He's got a top D potential so yes a 1st is the price but more likely if he gets dealt it's in a package
            Jun. 14 at 8:42 p.m.
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            Quoting: SMH
            Mailloux and 26th is more than generous as it is


            that might be too much for me if i was the GM, Mintyukov and Korchinski are pretty solid top 4 guys with high ceilings and the sharks should pick one of those two at 11th
            I was hoping more for like Robins or Gushin plus a pick for Mailoux. but i can understand having a higher value on him.
            Jun. 14 at 8:44 p.m.
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            Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
            he took a photo of his girlfriend preforming a sexual act and showed it to his teammates.


            A. He wasn't charged with a crime, he was ordered to pay a fine

            B. He toke a picture where only the to of the head is showing, no face, not identifiable, no nudity whatsoever
            Jun. 14 at 8:46 p.m.
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            Quoting: SMH
            He was available at 32 only because of the baggage and in the few games he did play this year he showed He's got a top D potential so yes a 1st is the price but more likely if he gets dealt it's in a package


            Even before the incident he was projected 15-31. and i posted this because i like his size and ability so in not trying to belittle the guy just gauging value.
            Jun. 14 at 8:49 p.m.
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            Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
            Even before the incident he was projected 15-31. and i posted this because i like his size and ability so in not trying to belittle the guy just gauging value.


            I understand, habs will likely keep him for now since he was injured and didn't play much... he has a very high potential and they will either be patient with him or trade him plus the 33rd or 26th pick to move up substantially
            Jun. 14 at 8:49 p.m.
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            Quoting: SMH
            A. He wasn't charged with a crime, he was ordered to pay a fine

            B. He toke a picture where only the to of the head is showing, no face, not identifiable, no nudity whatsoever


            he was convicted of the crime and forced to pay a fine.
            and again in a locker room kids say and do stupid things to impress their teammates, I want to give the kid a pass cause I've been in a locker room and saw way worse from teammates.
            not saying what he did wasn't wrong.. but i can understand that this one incident doesn't make him a bad guy.
            I mean seriously there is a website created that is nothing but pictures and videos of guys ex GF.
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            Jun. 14 at 8:52 p.m.
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            Quoting: SMH
            I understand, habs will likely keep him for now since he was injured and didn't play much... he has a very high potential and they will either be patient with him or trade him plus the 33rd or 26th pick to move up substantially


            if this draft didn't fall off as much after the top 15 I would do that deal, but then maybe Montreal wouldn't so it's not that i don't think it isn't fair.. just not certain it's the right move.
            Jun. 14 at 8:58 p.m.
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            I know this is an AGM, but the Sharks reportedly had Mallioux blacklisted from their draft list
            Jun. 14 at 8:59 p.m.
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            I’d say something like a 3rd + 4th, or a prospect equivalent to that
            Jun. 14 at 8:59 p.m.
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            Quoting: SMH
            As a spokesman for habs fans on capfriendly.com i would like to let you know that we are open to deal him, the cost to aquire mailloux is a 1st round pick.


            Quoting: SMH
            He was available at 32 only because of the baggage and in the few games he did play this year he showed He's got a top D potential so yes a 1st is the price but more likely if he gets dealt it's in a package


            He still has his baggage regardless of the couple good games he had. Zero teams will give a 1st for him. Oh and standing up for a kid like that isn’t a good look.
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            Jun. 14 at 8:59 p.m.
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            Quoting: Masonh618
            I’d say something like a 2nd + 4th, or a prospect equivalent to that


            What about a Dahlen for Lundqvist trade?
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            Jun. 14 at 9:02 p.m.
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            Quoting: Bias_it_self
            I know this is an AGM, but the Sharks reportedly had him blacklisted from their draft list


            I’m sure your right. but if I was GM I wouldn’t have.
            I also would have waited and taken him in the 2nd round though.

            anyone who spent time in a locker room has seen a picture of their friends/ teammates doing some questionable things with girls. it’s not ok but it happens. and i would give him a 2nd chance over a guy like Merkley who was picked with attitude issues!
            Jun. 14 at 9:03 p.m.
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            Quoting: glarson17
            He still has his baggage regardless of the couple good games he had. Zero teams will give a 1st for him. Oh and standing up for a kid like that isn’t a good look.


            Like i said, IF he gets moved it's likely plus one of the 33rd or 26th pick to move up into the top 10 or with the 33rd top 15
             
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