I think unless CBJ get *know* that Wright will be available at 2OA, and *know* that Nemec/ Jiricek won't be available at 6/12, I just don't think it is worth passing up the value adds. I've heard some rumbling about Cooley lately, but I don't know enough to say.

CBJ need 1Cs and RD1's. If they can come out of the draft with a player who can (reasonably soon) become one of those, then I'm happy.

I saw the tweets about this, too. They're French language. I wouldn't credit them too much, just Habs fans dreaming. I'd expect that Columbus would want more from the trade than just the 2OA if trading both 6 and 12.

Don't think Anderson and #33 get you #6.

That too. Particularly with how everyone keeps chirping that this is a wEaK dRaFt.

Also, MTL comes out of this with just 6OA. Is Anderson that much of a dead-weight that they would give up all of this just to move him?

I had long taken CBJ to have lost that trade, but if this is how MTL is viewing Andy already, then I feel much better.

Yeah, if I'm right and it's from the same thread from this morning, a few of us also came up with:
Mtl: 1OA+26 OA
CLB: 12 OA+Laine
NJ: 2OA

What they all receive is:
MTL: 2OA+12OA
NJ: Laine
CLB: 1OA+26OA

My thought is that Columbus would likely get a body from MTL in this deal...don't know how Devils fans would feel...I think, with an extension for Laine it'd be a great addition that 2OA likely never turns into, but yeah, it was interesting.

I mean, I wouldn't touch that Anderson contract with a 10 foot pole, but NHL Gm's are weird.

That's even worse for Columbus. Giving up Laine, 6OA and 12OA for 1OA and 26OA is absurd.

Me neither but, damn...still.



I mean, if you're saying 2OA would never turn into a caliber of player like Laine, then why trade him?

He and the team have both said they want an extension. Word is when they signed Joona Luoto (his best friend), it was largely because they had already agreed to an extension; they're just waiting until around the draft to announce it. Unless there is some doomsday scenario where things completely collapse and he doesn't want to re-sign, I don't see him moving.

The other problem is, MTL doesn't really have any bodies to offer that would really interest CBJ. Well, unless they are named Suzuki or Caulfield.

It's actually just Laine and 12th OA for 1OA and 26 OA, but I still hate that deal. I don't think Laine is up for trade discussion until August at the earliest if he hasn't re-signed by then.

No, they're not giving up 6 oa in the above scenario. 12 and Laine.

?

6 OA isn't involved.

Yeah I don't disagree...I mean, maybe a D-prospect not named Romanov or Guhle, or a fringy front end guy. I don't think it'd be anything major.

Edit: Replied before I saw that you had edited...

Just re: 2OA for Laine, I get what you're saying completely. I guess the above scenario is more of a "If he's not signing in Columbus" type thing? I don't know...it was a post from a post from another post hahahaha.

IMO, if Jarmo could turn Laine and 12 OA into the long term answer at 1C and sneak Jiricek into there as well, it'd be a W.

I still wouldn’t do that honestly. Having 1OA, 6OA, and 26OA would be nice but then we would be in full rebuild mode. Like you said I would rather wait and if Laine isn’t signed then trade him a few months post draft and get 2023 picks or a good C prospect with 1C potential

Eh, it feels like one of those trades where something *could* be done, but the amount of work needed to make the value equal for all parties just might not be worth it.

Oh I agree completely. It was a Habs thread from this AM that a few of us started spitballing with. Probably actually one of the most pleasant threads on here that I've seen . The original tweet was about as vague as the typical reasons why my wife is mad at me (Who the F*ck knows today!), but it's here: https://twitter.com/guerinmaxim/status/1537063916576063489?s=21&t=MC_9yNIcJWunxYxhCkqlkw

Do the math here:

#2 = 12.3
#6 = 7.6
#12 = 5.5
#33 = 2.6

Devils get Anderson and #12 (5.5), Give #2 (12.3)

That would value Anderson at 6.8, like the 8th overall pick (6.7)

Thanks!

*opens link*

French!

*closes link*



(kidding, but thanks)

So habs give
Anderson (?) and 33 (2,6)
NJD
2OA (12,3)
CLB
5.5 + 7.6 (13.1)

Habs receive:
6 OA = 7.6
NJD receive
Anderson (?) + 5.5
CLB receive :
12.3 + 2.6 = 14.9

Hahahaha, I did the same, but clicked the "translate" button

I think it would make more sense if Montreal gets #12 and #44, NJ gets Anderson, 6th OA, a prospect from Montreal and a depth piece from Columbus and Columbus gets #2 and #26. Would equate to:

Montreal 7.4 in and 3.3, Anderson and a prospect out
New Jersey 7.6, Anderson, Montreal prospect and Columbus piece in, 12.3 out
Columbus 15.6 in, 15 and a player out.

I think it’s swapped. I think Habs get 12 and Devils get 6+Anderson, this would put Anderson at 4.7 and roughly the 16th overall pick. But then from the Habs side, they’re giving up 33 (2.6) and Anderson (who we’ve assumed to have 4.7 in this exercise) which would total to 7.3 for 12 (5.5). It would probably be Anderson + 61 then for this to all make sense.

MTL Gives: Anderson (=~2), CGY 1st (#26 = 3.3), MTL 3rd (#65 = 1.0) = 6.3
MTL Gets: CBJ 1st (#12 = 5.5), NJD 4th (#102 = 0.4), NJD 6th (#166 = 0.2), ANA 7th (#203 = 0.2) = 6.3

NJD Gives: NJD 1st (#2 = 12.3), NJD 4th (#102 = 0.4), NJD 6th (#166 = 0.2) = 12.9
NJD Gets: Anderson (~2), CHI 1st (#6 = 7.6), CGY 1st (#26 = 3.3) = 12.9

CBJ Gives: CHI 1st (#6 = 7.6), CBJ 1st (#12 = 5.5), ANA 7th (#203 = 0.2) = 13.3
CBJ Gets: NJD 1st (#2 = 12.3), MTL 3rd (#65 = 1.0) = 13.3

Would be more equitable

I think Anderson have more value than that. I just can't see Anderson have less value than a 26 rnd pick for a NHL GM

Anderson is worth a 1st rounder? Really?
I was thinking ~2 (or equal to 40th pick) was fairly generous.
I'm not sure NJD would move pick #37 for him.
Maybe they would.

Sorry! We're having a widespread power outage here in Columbus and cell service is also spotty so I'm trying to do this on my phone screen. I was still thinking of the proposal in this AGM, not the one in the comments from the thread.