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Just a heads up NYR fans, I don’t know if y’all even what willy and 2) Idk what the value of these guys are so I just want to know is this fair or nah. I get it’s a big trade but mostly interested in Chytil and Georgiev. Comment what would actually be realistic trade if this aint it (as im expecting lmao
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Jun. 15, 2022 at 5:51 p.m.
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We’re good
Jun. 15, 2022 at 5:55 p.m.
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We’re good


I never said it was fair, I just wanted to know what a trade would look like if I was asking for Chytil and Georgiev
Jun. 15, 2022 at 5:56 p.m.
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I never said it was fair, I just wanted to know what a trade would look like if I was asking for Chytil and Georgiev


Chytil's not going anywhere. Georgiev gets that 2nd.
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Jun. 15, 2022 at 5:59 p.m.
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Quoting: SDSUFRATMAN
I never said it was fair, I just wanted to know what a trade would look like if I was asking for Chytil and Georgiev


Georgie gets the second, chytil not for sale unless we get priced out next year
Jun. 15, 2022 at 6:01 p.m.
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Quoting: Despise
Georgie gets the second, chytil not for sale unless we get priced out next year


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Chytil's not going anywhere. Georgiev gets that 2nd.


Fair enough. What if it was Schneider and Georgiev for Willy would y’all do it or is Schneider untouchable too?
Also Ranger fans do you Geogiev can be a #1 or just a better 1b situation?
Jun. 15, 2022 at 6:10 p.m.
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Quoting: SDSUFRATMAN
Fair enough. What if it was Schneider and Georgiev for Willy would y’all do it or is Schneider untouchable too?
Also Ranger fans do you Geogiev can be a #1 or just a better 1b situation?


A lot of NYR ACGMs don't offer Georgiev a contract. I realize that's not the same as what the GM would do, but Vanecek went for a 2nd and I'd take him over Georgiev.

And I think Schneider is untouchable.
Jun. 15, 2022 at 6:11 p.m.
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Fair enough. What if it was Schneider and Georgiev for Willy would y’all do it or is Schneider untouchable too?
Also Ranger fans do you Geogiev can be a #1 or just a better 1b situation?


We can’t afford nylander. I’d love him but he’s too much. I also don’t believe we’re going to get rid of Schneider because he’s troubas replacement when we trade him.
Jun. 15, 2022 at 6:19 p.m.
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Quoting: SDSUFRATMAN
Fair enough. What if it was Schneider and Georgiev for Willy would y’all do it or is Schneider untouchable too?
Also Ranger fans do you Geogiev can be a #1 or just a better 1b situation?


Georgiev's interesting because unlike a lot of other younger goaltenders who've been traded/changed teams recently (Nedeljkovic, Vanecek, Driedger to name a few), Georgiev has a lot more experience (~120 NHL Starts) and he's been solid the whole time. It's interesting you bring up the #1 situation because his stats historically get better with less rest, and the stretches where he's been forced to play every game for an injured Lundqvist or Igor have been his best goaltending. So it seems like he gets rusty if you sit him and stays sharp if you play him. I'd say he's more of a #1 in that way, and goalies coming out of Benoit Allaire's teaching (Raanta, Talbot, Igor, Lundqvist) have all been exceptional and Allaire raves about him (that's the main reason he hasn't been dealt yet).

I don't think Willy's a fit here. Cap hit is too high without moving a piece like Trouba (Willy for Trouba would be close value-wise but Trouba won't play in Canada) and the positional need is C which Willy hasn't consistently played over a full season, or even most of a season in like 4 years. I love Nylander as a player and if this was a year or 2 ago it'd make a ton of sense but I don't know if it does at the moment.
Jun. 15, 2022 at 6:22 p.m.
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Hardly practical for the Rangers....way too much cap going their way.
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Jun. 15, 2022 at 6:26 p.m.
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Quoting: Sagecoll
Chytil's not going anywhere. Georgiev gets that 2nd.

So now chytils not going anywhere?
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Jun. 15, 2022 at 6:28 p.m.
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A lot of NYR ACGMs don't offer Georgiev a contract. I realize that's not the same as what the GM would do, but Vanecek went for a 2nd and I'd take him over Georgiev.

And I think Schneider is untouchable.


Quoting: Despise
We can’t afford nylander. I’d love him but he’s too much. I also don’t believe we’re going to get rid of Schneider because he’s troubas replacement when we trade him.


Quoting: Sagecoll
Georgiev's interesting because unlike a lot of other younger goaltenders who've been traded/changed teams recently (Nedeljkovic, Vanecek, Driedger to name a few), Georgiev has a lot more experience (~120 NHL Starts) and he's been solid the whole time. It's interesting you bring up the #1 situation because his stats historically get better with less rest, and the stretches where he's been forced to play every game for an injured Lundqvist or Igor have been his best goaltending. So it seems like he gets rusty if you sit him and stays sharp if you play him. I'd say he's more of a #1 in that way, and goalies coming out of Benoit Allaire's teaching (Raanta, Talbot, Igor, Lundqvist) have all been exceptional and Allaire raves about him (that's the main reason he hasn't been dealt yet).

I don't think Willy's a fit here. Cap hit is too high without moving a piece like Trouba (Willy for Trouba would be close value-wise but Trouba won't play in Canada) and the positional need is C which Willy hasn't consistently played over a full season, or even most of a season in like 4 years. I love Nylander as a player and if this was a year or 2 ago it'd make a ton of sense but I don't know if it does at the moment.


Fair enough boys! I appreciate the info of these guys and there true value. So in overall y’all think Georgiev is worth a 2nd?
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Jun. 15, 2022 at 6:31 p.m.
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Fair enough boys! I appreciate the info of these guys and if there true value. So in overall y’all think Georgiev is worth a 2nd?


He’s young, had a down year but when he’s on his game he’s good. Just look back at when he backed up lundqvist and that’ll tell you all you need to know. Goalies need more time than one game every blue moon to keep a good groove going.
Jun. 15, 2022 at 6:33 p.m.
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He’s young, had a down year but when he’s on his game he’s good. Just look back at when he backed up lundqvist and that’ll tell you all you need to know. Goalies need more time than one game every blue moon to keep a good groove going.


Oh I get that and like what he said, he seems the more he plays the better he is and that’s why I think he’s getting traded or something. Igor is your guy and really I think he he wants to play more then what he would get with NY. Id be also willing to throw in another pick or prospect to get him because he will most definitely play more here.
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Jun. 15, 2022 at 6:35 p.m.
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Oh I get that and like what he said, he seems the more he plays the better he is and that’s why I think he’s getting traded or something. Igor is your guy and really I think he he wants to play more then what he would get with NY. Id be also willing to throw in another pick or prospect to get him because he will most definitely play more here.


He’s worth it for sure, has low-medium risk, but high reward for sure.
Jun. 15, 2022 at 6:38 p.m.
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He’s worth it for sure, has low-medium risk, but high reward for sure.


That’s what I see in him so I think he could be a solid option and as far as a contract what do you think he’ll get in the range of? on a bridge or long term deal but Id much rather have a 2-3 year deal.
Jun. 15, 2022 at 6:41 p.m.
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That’s what I see in him so I think he could be a solid option and as far as a contract what do you think he’ll get in the range of? on a bridge or long term deal but Id much rather have a 2-3 year deal.


I can see a 2.5-3x2 as a “show us what you got” deal
Jun. 15, 2022 at 6:42 p.m.
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I can see a 2.5-3x2 as a “show us what you got” deal


Fair enough Thanks! I want to be as realistic as I can so getting help from y’all was much appreciated!
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Fair enough Thanks! I want to be as realistic as I can so getting help from y’all was much appreciated!


No problem!
Jun. 15, 2022 at 6:46 p.m.
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So now chytils not going anywhere?


I mean it never made sense to move him. He’s a young cost controlled Center on a team that only has 1 other top 9 C. Not sure why any folks would try moving him. It doesn’t make a ton of sense.
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Jun. 15, 2022 at 7:09 p.m.
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Rangers don't consider that for even a second.
Jun. 15, 2022 at 8:02 p.m.
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So now chytils not going anywhere?


hes 1 of 2 centers under contract for next season lol
Jun. 15, 2022 at 8:09 p.m.
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Fair enough. What if it was Schneider and Georgiev for Willy would y’all do it or is Schneider untouchable too?
Also Ranger fans do you Geogiev can be a #1 or just a better 1b situation?



First off you're ignoring that you put kakko in this deal as well. He's not being moved. Secondly Schneider is not being moved . He's a defenseman with top 4 upside on an ELC, who was capable of playing in the playoffs. We need less cap hits not more.
Chytil makes 2m this upcoming season. Replacing schneider and Chytil with nylander is a massive depth downgrade. Yes nylander is the better overall player, but hes also been a winger for a while now, and has a huge cap hit in comparison. Nils lundkvist is the D the rangers likely move, for a comparably young center. Not someone like nylander.
Jun. 15, 2022 at 8:09 p.m.
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hes 1 of 2 centers under contract for next season lol

Most of you had him in trades and begging to get rid of him.
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