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Created by: twodollarlobster

Team: 2022-23 Edmonton Oilers

Initial Creation Date: Jun. 16, 2022

Published: Jun. 16, 2022

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

I should preface this with the fact that I do not watch NYR games and am purely going off what I've heard in podcasts, TSN, etc. I also don't know how far away Edmonton is from NYR with all these stats and stuff so I might be wrong on that too.

I'm seeing a lot of trades for Georgiev to go to the Oilers for various types of picks. I've looked at his numbers last year and they aren't great. From what I've been told/read a bit about though, the Rangers have bad possession and shot numbers and Shesterkin was able to bail them out a ton.

So here is my question: Is Georgiev really that bad, or is he a good goalie that couldn't keep up with the shot/possession numbers the same way Shesterkin did? If Georgiev went to a team that had better stats (maybe like the Oilers) do you think he would be okay?

Trades

EDM

Georgiev, Alexandar [RFA Rights]

NYR

2022 7th round pick (EDM)
2023 3rd round pick (EDM)

Additional Details:

Not my actual trade don't yell at me. See description for my question to Ranger fans

Buyouts

James Neal: $1,916,667
Andrej Sekera: $1,500,000

Retained Salary Transactions

Milan Lucic: $750,000 (12.5%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2022
2023
2024

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
15	$82,500,000	$75,369,795	$896,000	$1,700,000	$7,130,205

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Hyman, Zach $5,500,000$5,500,000 RW, LW NMC UFA - 6	McDavid, Connor $12,500,000$12,500,000 C NMC UFA - 4	Kassian, Zack $3,200,000$3,200,000 RW UFA - 2
Nugent-Hopkins, Ryan $5,125,000$5,125,000 LW, C NMC UFA - 7	Draisaitl, Leon $8,500,000$8,500,000 C, LW M-NTC, NMC UFA - 3
Foegele, Warren $2,750,000$2,750,000 LW, RW UFA - 2	Ryan, Derek $1,250,000$1,250,000 C, RW UFA - 1
Shore, Devin $850,000$850,000 LW, C, RW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Nurse, Darnell $9,250,000$9,250,000 LD NMC UFA - 8	Barrie, Tyson $4,500,000$4,500,000 RD UFA - 2	Smith, Mike $2,200,000$2,200,000 G UFA - 1
Keith, Duncan $5,538,462$5,538,462 LD NMC UFA - 1	Ceci, Cody $3,250,000$3,250,000 RD UFA - 3
Broberg, Philip $863,333$863,333 ($850,000$850K) LD RFA - 2	Bouchard, Evan $863,333$863,333 ($850,000$850K) RD RFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
	Klefbom, Oscar $4,167,000$4,167,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 1

Jun. 16, 2022 at 9:36 a.m.

Jdrangers

Joined: Feb. 2022

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He has a starter mentality. He used to be our starter and he was good, but hes a bad backup because he has a bad mindset

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Jun. 16, 2022 at 9:38 a.m.

FreeTacosAreBestTacos

Servant of Chaos

Joined: Jan. 2016

Posts: 1,112

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Georgiev is...weird. I definitely think he's a better starter than backup though. He needs to be seeing pucks consistently, he's not super great at coming in once every 4 or 5 games, but seems to perform better in stretches where he's the starter

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Jun. 16, 2022 at 9:51 a.m.

hero9154

Joined: Jun. 2018

Posts: 1,837

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Georgiev plays better and is more consistent when he receives regular playing time. He would probably make a better starter than backup. That being said, if he isn't traded by July 8th, you can get him for nothing as the Rangers most likely wont qualify him.

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Jun. 16, 2022 at 10:03 a.m.

CD282

Joined: Mar. 2017

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Quoting: Twodollarlobster

If Georgiev went to a team that had better stats (maybe like the Oilers) do you think he would be okay?

Your mistake is presuming that Edmonton has better stats than New York, when in fact the two teams are remarkably similar.

Shots against/60
NYR: 30.51
EDM: 31.90

Expected goals against/60
NYR: 2.81
EDM: 2.92

High danger corsi against/60
NYR: 12.00
EDM: 11.50

There's no reason to believe that Georgiev would magically raise his game in Edmonton.

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Jun. 16, 2022 at 10:32 a.m.

Goalie

Exhausted Ranger Fan

Joined: Jun. 2021

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Quoting: CD282

Georgiev getting more playing time would raise his game

Jun. 16, 2022 at 10:33 a.m.

NYR1983

Joined: Sep. 2020

Posts: 6,267

Likes: 2,534

Don’t compare his numbers to Shesty… we are the worst team defensively so with proper team in front of him he would be good. For example on the Leafs.. he would bet better than Soup as per analytics. The 3rd would get him

Jun. 16, 2022 at 10:35 a.m.

NYR1983

Joined: Sep. 2020

Posts: 6,267

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Quoting: Despise

Georgiev getting more playing time would raise his game

It’s more so how bad the team in front of him is.. can’t compare him to shesty. Shesty is actually the best goalie out there when it comes to analytics. And it’s not close

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