Philly doesn't need Petry with a healthy Ellis

There's not another team other then Phoenix that will want Weber's contract. They need it more than any other team and will pay actual picks to get it

Why are we trading Petry exactly ? Why not just run Petry Savard Wideman next year, and after a good season for Jeff, we could trade him at the TDL if we receive a good offer or in the offseason
After we could run Savard Barron Wideman in 2023-2024 without rushing Guhle Barron in 2022-2023

If that is true (which it isn't), than MTL have zero leverage in trading Weber's contract. I still believe Habs can get something decent for his contract, but that is based on there being an actual market (as in multiple teams showing interest in it). Let's not forget that MTL, for offseason purposes, need to trade Weber's contract as well to make any substantial UFA signings. LTIR doesn't exist in the offseason... so his cap hit still applies until October. Teams can exceed the cap in the offseason by 10% (which roughly comes to $91mil), adding Weber's contract back on the books for the offseason brings MTL really close to that 10% limit.

Hughes has been very transparent since starting as GM. So when he says that he will trade Petry (for the right price), I think it's safe to assume that the attempt will be made to make it so in the offseason.

If you’re adding a conditional 2nd you’re sending back more… the trade is pretty even without the pick

Going to have to disagree with you on that. If Petry does indeed go back to his former self (40pts+ Dman), this deal heavily favors the Flyers. The condition I think covers that circumstance.

Maybe, the trade rumour this off-season per several sources (most notably TSN) was Petry retained to Philly for JVR and a prospect. (Most likely Rat)

If this trade happens including a possible first round pick i really would be shocked if there is not 50% retention and a prospect attached, but that’s just based on those rumours. Would be a big change from the TDL

I must of missed those sources. You got a link?

Just my opinion, but I don't see MTL wanting to retain on Petry's contract (maybe 10-15% at the very most). They'd rather take a hefty contract back (JVR in this case) than retain anything.

There's no rumor with Petry to PHI that reached MTL. PHI already have Ryan Ellis and were able to resign Ristolainen long terms. The unique rumor that came in MTL is DAL if they lose Klingberg. And that's just one scout who directly linked DAL to Petry because in his opinion, it would be a good option for Nill

I believe this was Bob McKenzie who mentioned this during TSN TFDL show but was first reported elsewhere.

Also, I’m in MTL and heard this a few times, even by French sources

https://www.hockeyfeed.com/nhl-news/major-trade-failed-to-materialize-between-flyers-and-habs-at-the-deadline

Here’s a link talking about the news being broke. No link to TSN show but this had been talked about a few places, including NHL.com if I’m not mistaken

I don’t think the value makes sense but it’s what I’ve heard. I also heard other, less reliable sources talk of the prospect was actually supposed to come from MTL but I doubt that’s accurate

Its what Petry wants, but if there isn't a good deal then they likely keep him.

MTL has a bunch of leverage over Arizona, they need high contracts that don't cost real money so they can manage the 5000 seat arena they're playing in. I don't think they're the only team interested in it but they're definitely the most desperate for it.

Especially if the insurance claim goes through and no team has to pay Weber a cent of actual money. It would be 7.8 million of free cap to get them to the floor. A contract that no one else has.

Very interesting. I wonder what they mean by a "good prospect" and does Ratcliffe still fit that description seeing he's already 23 and hasn't broken through yet. Maybe Frost? :P

That’s what I was wondering as well. I like Ratcliffe, I think him, like a lot of big men, needed time to put on muscle to transition, he should be close to being ready but when I first heard this I figured they were talking about Wisdom or McClennon (who they didn’t even qualify because Fletcher is an idiot) also wondered if they would go with Brink or Zamula which worried me

Who knows if they will actually go back and work on this deal but I’d be intrigued to see the final deal if it happens