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Created by: ChiHawk
Team: 2022-23 Chicago Blackhawks
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 17, 2022
Published: Jun. 17, 2022
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Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$2,000,000
2$1,500,000
2$2,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$1,250,000
Trades
1.
CHI
  1. Holtz, Alexander
  2. 2022 1st round pick (NJD)
NJD
  1. DeBrincat, Alex
  2. 2022 3rd round pick (TOR)
2.
CHI
TOR
  1. Khaira, Jujhar
  2. Strome, Dylan [RFA Rights]
  3. 2022 2nd round pick (MIN)
3.
CHI
  1. Kakko, Kaapo [RFA Rights]
  2. Nemeth, Patrik
  3. 2023 1st round pick (NYR)
NYR
  1. Kane, Patrick ($5,250,000 retained)
  2. 2023 2nd round pick (TBL)
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2022
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2023
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22$82,500,000$67,195,962$237,500$2,157,500$15,304,038
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
LW, C
RFA - 2
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
C, RW
RFA - 4
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RW, LW
RFA - 3
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$1,150,000$1,150,000
RW, C, LW
UFA - 2
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$10,500,000$10,500,000
C
NMC
UFA - 1
$2,000,000$2,000,000
RW
RFA - 2
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
LW, C, RW
RFA - 1
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
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M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$758,333$758,333
RW
RFA - 2
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$750,000$750,000
C
RFA - 1
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$800,000$800,000
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RFA - 2
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$800,000$800,000
LW, C
RFA - 2
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$758,333$758,333
LW
RFA - 2
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$9,500,000$9,500,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 8
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$1,250,000$1,250,000
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UFA - 1
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$867,500$867,500 (Performance Bonus$32,500$32K)
LD
UFA - 1
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$4,400,000$4,400,000
RD
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UFA - 4
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$1,350,000$1,350,000
LD
RFA - 2
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$866,667$866,667
RD
RFA - 1
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UFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RD
RFA - 1

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Jun. 17, 2022 at 1:54 p.m.
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Not dumping Knies even if we're getting a 2nd back - guy might be an absolutely huge contributor
Jun. 17, 2022 at 1:57 p.m.
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Kakko is generally seen on here as terrible and worth nothing, so why trade for him and why not trade Kane somewhere else for more?
Jun. 17, 2022 at 1:59 p.m.
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As someone who has looked at legal zoom before, I have to tell you that admitting you burned ur house down is a very bad idea
Jun. 17, 2022 at 2:00 p.m.
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Quoting: HOCKEYBOY448
Kakko is generally seen on here as terrible and worth nothing, so why trade for him and why not trade Kane somewhere else for more?


I hated Kakko in the regular reason, but he was very good for the rangers in the playoffs. He plays the right way and there is still a lot of upside to his game imo.
Jun. 17, 2022 at 2:12 p.m.
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Leafs have blocked you number
Jun. 17, 2022 at 2:13 p.m.
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Quoting: Isles5513
I hated Kakko in the regular reason, but he was very good for the rangers in the playoffs. He plays the right way and there is still a lot of upside to his game imo.


That’s one thing I’ve tried to explain to people, but it’s only about points for most people.
Jun. 17, 2022 at 2:22 p.m.
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That’s one thing I’ve tried to explain to people, but it’s only about points for most people.


It wouldn't be the worst thing to just develop him. I think the reason he gets inserted into Kane trades are because they play the same position. Having KK on the 3rd or 4th line seems like poor asset management/development. If he's truly going to develop into a great player...he needs a ton of ice time which he likely won't get if Kaners there.
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Jun. 17, 2022 at 2:43 p.m.
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Quoting: HOCKEYBOY448
Kakko is generally seen on here as terrible and worth nothing, so why trade for him and why not trade Kane somewhere else for more?


That's crazy to say he's worth nothing. That said, he needs to be developed and for a competing team, may not be the best situation for the team or hiim
Jun. 17, 2022 at 2:44 p.m.
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I hated Kakko in the regular reason, but he was very good for the rangers in the playoffs. He plays the right way and there is still a lot of upside to his game imo.


He was a healthy scratch. I didn't think he played well against the Lightning and was inconsistent the rest of the playoffs.
Jun. 17, 2022 at 2:45 p.m.
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I know he's the Leafs best prospect, but Leafs fans tend to overrate him as such. He's a very good prospect but lets not pretend he's an elite one.
Jun. 17, 2022 at 7:13 p.m.
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I know he's the Leafs best prospect, but Leafs fans tend to overrate him as such. He's a very good prospect but lets not pretend he's an elite one.


He is elite. He’s going to play next year and be on the top 6 immediately
Jun. 17, 2022 at 9:53 p.m.
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He was a healthy scratch. I didn't think he played well against the Lightning and was inconsistent the rest of the playoffs.


Thats nice. The rangers arent moving him for anything less than a high end young center.
Byfield is available sure. You want to move dach + maybe a 2nd, that be a consideration. But the rangers aren't actively going to burn a young potentially high end player for a pending UFA for ONE YEAR.
The team has 2 core's right now. The vet core, who's upper 20's and the kids, who are all under 24. The team isn't going to burn that second core for a medium upgrade on a position of strength already.
Every deal that is kakko for kane is a clear pipe dream. Let alone "adding to Kakko".
And its not that Kakko is a better player now, but its that theres enough upside that Kakko might be a high end player, and he's likely going to be making 1/5th of kanes contract, and put up far more than 1/5 kanes stats. You win cups by getting surplus value, you lose cups by overpaying for value.
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Jun. 18, 2022 at 1:05 a.m.
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He is elite. He’s going to play next year and be on the top 6 immediately


Nah, he's not elite. In fact, Reichel is ranked higher then him in latest rankings including Pronmans, and although a very good prospect and top 6 player likely, he's not elite. Elite prospects are guys who drive the top lines, franchise players, don't kid yourself, Knies is not that level.
Jun. 18, 2022 at 1:10 a.m.
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Thats nice. The rangers arent moving him for anything less than a high end young center.
Byfield is available sure. You want to move dach + maybe a 2nd, that be a consideration. But the rangers aren't actively going to burn a young potentially high end player for a pending UFA for ONE YEAR.
The team has 2 core's right now. The vet core, who's upper 20's and the kids, who are all under 24. The team isn't going to burn that second core for a medium upgrade on a position of strength already.
Every deal that is kakko for kane is a clear pipe dream. Let alone "adding to Kakko".
And its not that Kakko is a better player now, but its that theres enough upside that Kakko might be a high end player, and he's likely going to be making 1/5th of kanes contract, and put up far more than 1/5 kanes stats. You win cups by getting surplus value, you lose cups by overpaying for value.


A position of strength? LMAO Rangers faulted because of lack of 5 on 5 scoring and Kappo isn't helping that case. Kane would be an immediate massive upgrade in the ability to score 5 on 5. And you think Kappo is worth Dach + 2nd??? You have to be out of your mind. They both put up the same numbers and yet Dach coming back from a massive a wrist surgery...I wouldn't trade Dach 1 for 1 for Kappo.

You win cups by not better on the future, you win cups by betting on the now and if a young player fits into that then great, but if he isn't contributing to the race then you readily move him for a massive upgrade. As a Blackhawks fan, I watched it happen and the future is a pipedream when a chance for a cup is in sight. The Rangers haven't won in years but I can tell you, had they had better 5 on 5 scoring and swapped Kane for Kappo, they would have had a really good chance to get past the Lightning versus a healthy scratch for a player they hope will be a difference maker in a few years.
Jun. 18, 2022 at 9:19 a.m.
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A position of strength? LMAO Rangers faulted because of lack of 5 on 5 scoring and Kappo isn't helping that case. Kane would be an immediate massive upgrade in the ability to score 5 on 5. And you think Kappo is worth Dach + 2nd??? You have to be out of your mind. They both put up the same numbers and yet Dach coming back from a massive a wrist surgery...I wouldn't trade Dach 1 for 1 for Kappo.

You win cups by not better on the future, you win cups by betting on the now and if a young player fits into that then great, but if he isn't contributing to the race then you readily move him for a massive upgrade. As a Blackhawks fan, I watched it happen and the future is a pipedream when a chance for a cup is in sight. The Rangers haven't won in years but I can tell you, had they had better 5 on 5 scoring and swapped Kane for Kappo, they would have had a really good chance to get past the Lightning versus a healthy scratch for a player they hope will be a difference maker in a few years.


Kakko just played in this post-season after having wrist surgery during the season. Also as for "same numbers" dach and kakko put up almost identical numbers, however Dach averaged almost 2 minutes more per game. Clearly showing that Kakko is the better player.

The rangers wingers as a whole is a position of strength. Panarin is still a top end player in this league, Laf will be a top player, Kreider just put up 50+ goals. Kratsov and Kakko need to put up more production numbers, but Kakko has flashed the talent necessary. We also have othmann who looks like a potential top 6 winger.

You win cups by not making short sighted deals.
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Jun. 18, 2022 at 11:55 a.m.
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Kakko just played in this post-season after having wrist surgery during the season. Also as for "same numbers" dach and kakko put up almost identical numbers, however Dach averaged almost 2 minutes more per game. Clearly showing that Kakko is the better player.

The rangers wingers as a whole is a position of strength. Panarin is still a top end player in this league, Laf will be a top player, Kreider just put up 50+ goals. Kratsov and Kakko need to put up more production numbers, but Kakko has flashed the talent necessary. We also have othmann who looks like a potential top 6 winger.

You win cups by not making short sighted deals.


But Kaapo was playing on a much better team then Dach, so that washes it out.

Kane would clearly upgrade the wing position and top 6. The Rangers position of strength is not their top 6 outside. Yes, they have 3 to 4 really good players up there, but holes as well.

You win cups by focusing on the now, not looking ahead multiple years when the team is that close.
Jun. 18, 2022 at 2:20 p.m.
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Nah, he's not elite. In fact, Reichel is ranked higher then him in latest rankings including Pronmans, and although a very good prospect and top 6 player likely, he's not elite. Elite prospects are guys who drive the top lines, franchise players, don't kid yourself, Knies is not that level.


for now. both of us are wrong. we will have to see what he does when he plays in the nhl
Jun. 18, 2022 at 7:57 p.m.
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But Kaapo was playing on a much better team then Dach, so that washes it out.

Kane would clearly upgrade the wing position and top 6. The Rangers position of strength is not their top 6 outside. Yes, they have 3 to 4 really good players up there, but holes as well.

You win cups by focusing on the now, not looking ahead multiple years when the team is that close.


Problem is they’re not that close. Anyone who thinks that needs to seriously pay attention to the play on the ice. Because it is nowhere near good enough. Is Kane going to improve overall team defense because that was a huge issue this playoffs and getting drastically outplayed. Just send Kane elsewhere for a better return. He won’t magically fix the Rangers by himself.
 
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