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Miller for the win

Created by: jedihonesy
Team: 2022-23 New York Rangers
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 18, 2022
Published: Jun. 18, 2022
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
17 mill the next year so they can sign Laf Kandre Chytil and Kravtsov
Free Agent Signings
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
6$5,500,000
Trades
NYR
  1. Miller, J.T. ($2,500,000 retained)
VAN
  1. Kakko, Kaapo [RFA Rights]
  2. Lundkvist, Nils
  3. 2022 2nd round pick (NYR)
  4. 2023 1st round pick (NYR)
Additional Details:
Rags avoid losing kaako for nothing and get a cheap as hell 1C all next year
Buyouts
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2022
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2023
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2024
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
20$82,500,000$81,576,469$0$3,732,500$923,531

Roster

Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$11,642,857$11,642,857
LW
NMC
UFA - 4
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$8,500,000$8,500,000
C
NMC
UFA - 8
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 5
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
LW
NMC
UFA - 5
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,850,000$3M)
LW, RW
RFA - 1
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$2,300,000$2,300,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$875,000$875,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
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$1,525,000$1,525,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$3,641,667$3,641,667
C, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 5
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$1,750,000$1,750,000
RW
UFA - 1
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$894,167$894,167
LW
RFA - 4
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
LD
RFA - 2
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$9,500,000$9,500,000
RD
UFA - 7
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$5,666,667$5,666,667
G
UFA - 3
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$400,000$400K)
LD
RFA - 1
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$8,000,000$8,000,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 4
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$828,333$828,333 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
G
RFA - 3
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$400,000$400K)
RD
RFA - 2

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Jun. 18, 2022 at 10:32 p.m.
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It would need to be Schneider over Lundkvist for the Canucks to agree probably.
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Jun. 18, 2022 at 10:41 p.m.
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Offer sheets don’t happen. Zero concern.
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Jun. 18, 2022 at 10:48 p.m.
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Canucks should only move Miller to NY if one of Schneider, Lafreniere, or Othmann headlines the return
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Jun. 18, 2022 at 10:48 p.m.
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Quoting: NYR1983
Offer sheets don’t happen. Zero concern.


This is a case where a team could get Kaako for a 2nd rounder, which would be worth it. He isn't worth an offer sheet for a 1st though, so either the Rags match and pay him 4.2 mill and lose all their main UFAs, or they lose him for a 2nd, or trade him. I think most offer sheets don't happen because the teams will just match the offer, or because its not worth losing first round picks, but not in this case.
Jun. 18, 2022 at 10:50 p.m.
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It would need to be Schneider over Lundkvist for the Canucks to agree probably.


Especially with that retention. This deal could fly at 10-17.5% but for 50%? And a hypothetical extension in place? Lundkvist becomes Schneider at least, wouldn't be surprised if Van wants another 1st out of it instead of a 2nd. Teams need to overpay for cap space, plain and simple.
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Jun. 18, 2022 at 10:54 p.m.
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Miller can't be signed by the Rangers after next Season.

With retention, even if fair, that's way too much for me to give up on a rental.
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Jun. 18, 2022 at 10:55 p.m.
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Quoting: jedihonesy
This is a case where a team could get Kaako for a 2nd rounder, which would be worth it. He isn't worth an offer sheet for a 1st though, so either the Rags match and pay him 4.2 mill and lose all their main UFAs, or they lose him for a 2nd, or trade him. I think most offer sheets don't happen because the teams will just match the offer, or because its not worth losing first round picks, but not in this case.


You’re theory is spot on.. but in reality GMs just don’t do this. So ya, could it happen and be very cheap and we are also talking about a player that 95% outside of NYR fans are calling a bust, sure, there’s a possibility… but it won’t. Cirelli, Sergachev, cernak all could have been had the same way… did it happen??

Or if we traded him to Van and someone else gave an OS for 6M, what are you doing 😂
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Jun. 18, 2022 at 10:56 p.m.
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Especially with that retention. This deal could fly at 10-17.5% but for 50%? And a hypothetical extension in place? Lundkvist becomes Schneider at least, wouldn't be surprised if Van wants another 1st out of it instead of a 2nd. Teams need to overpay for cap space, plain and simple.


Really the deal should be Laf, Schneider, two 1sts for Miller at 50%. It’s going to be a bidding war and the price could be higher
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Jun. 19, 2022 at 12:08 a.m.
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Quoting: NYR1983
You’re theory is spot on.. but in reality GMs just don’t do this. So ya, could it happen and be very cheap and we are also talking about a player that 95% outside of NYR fans are calling a bust, sure, there’s a possibility… but it won’t. Cirelli, Sergachev, cernak all could have been had the same way… did it happen??

Or if we traded him to Van and someone else gave an OS for 6M, what are you doing 😂


Then we would get a first and a third out of it which is better than Kaako. NYR is a prime candidate to be offer sheeted because 1. they can't match 2. Im not so sure he wants to be in NYR anyways.

and if you're playing in Tampa, you want to stay in Tampa. The weather is nice, taxes are minimal, and you're on a winning team. Im pretty sure they were signed mid year before they could even talk to any teams about an offer sheet too. If I were NY I would trade him or let him walk, Vatrano Copp and Motte are all better options for NY, and Kaako may be a lot better on another team so its probably best for him too.
Jun. 19, 2022 at 12:15 a.m.
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Another ridicules JT Miller to NYR trade, SHOCKING. Drury doesn't consider your offer for even a second.
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Jun. 19, 2022 at 12:18 a.m.
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Quoting: delneggs
Another ridicules JT Miller to NYR trade, SHOCKING. Drury doesn't consider your offer for even a second.


You always make me laugh. Thanks for stopping by
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Jun. 19, 2022 at 12:19 a.m.
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Quoting: jedihonesy
You always make me laugh. Thanks for stopping by


As much as your nonsense trades to the Ranger make me laugh. Your jealousy of the Rangers is awesome, keep up the good work.
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Jun. 19, 2022 at 12:20 a.m.
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Quoting: delneggs
As much as your nonsense trades to the Ranger make me laugh. Your jealousy of the Rangers is awesome, keep up the good work.


No Canucks fan said anything about being jealous
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Jun. 19, 2022 at 12:21 a.m.
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As much as your nonsense trades to the Ranger make me laugh. Your jealousy of the Rangers is awesome, keep up the good work.


See u later buddy
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Jun. 19, 2022 at 12:21 a.m.
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Quoting: Knuckl3s
No Canucks fan said anything about being jealous


Your continued nonsense trades to the Rangers says it all. Keep up the good work.
Jun. 19, 2022 at 12:22 a.m.
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Quoting: jedihonesy
See u later buddy


I'm sure we will be seeing more of your nonsense Miller to NYR trades, that's for sure. Keep dreaming.
Jun. 19, 2022 at 12:24 a.m.
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Quoting: delneggs
Your continued nonsense trades to the Rangers says it all. Keep up the good work.


Fans from other teams are saying it should be Schneider, or make the 2nd a 1st.
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Jun. 19, 2022 at 12:24 a.m.
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Quoting: delneggs
Your continued nonsense trades to the Rangers says it all. Keep up the good work.


Can't you see you're turning every other user here against you?

And it's not because we have different valuation assessments, it's because of your toxic attitude
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Jun. 19, 2022 at 12:25 a.m.
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Fans from other teams are saying it should be Schneider, or make the 2nd a 1st.


Who cares? Miller to the Rangers has zero chance of ever happening. ZERO. So keep dreaming.
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Jun. 19, 2022 at 12:31 a.m.
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Quoting: jedihonesy
I don't know what's wrong with this guy. He's probably the same guy that knocked out the lightning fan at MSG.


I don't know about that, but that doesn't mean we should have to embrace anybody who willingly chooses to act toxic here and isn't committed to helping create a healthy and fun environment for debate and discussion
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Jun. 19, 2022 at 12:32 a.m.
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Nah, If I wanted to hit you, you would see me coming. Result would be the same.


Sticks and stones man...
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Jun. 19, 2022 at 12:34 a.m.
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I don't know about that, but that doesn't mean we should have to embrace anybody who willingly chooses to act toxic here and isn't committed to helping create a healthy and fun environment for debate and discussion


Haha yeah. Just a joke. Pretty sure that guy is still in jail anyways. But yeah delneggs needs to chill out.
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Jun. 19, 2022 at 12:36 a.m.
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It would need to be Schneider over Lundkvist for the Canucks to agree probably.


This is definitely a good offer. When the Miller trade does happen I'm 90% sure it will be for a decent amount less than this offer. And I'm a Canucks fan. It's not realistic to give up 4 prime assets for one players.
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Jun. 19, 2022 at 12:37 a.m.
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Haha yeah. Just a joke. Pretty sure that guy is still in jail anyways. But yeah delneggs needs to chill out.


I think we managed to rile him up to the point that he warranted having an infraction imposed on his account, cause his toxic posts on this thread have disappeared. Guess he's gone for now
Jun. 19, 2022 at 12:37 a.m.
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This is definitely a good offer. When the Miller trade does happen I'm 90% sure it will be for a decent amount less than this offer. And I'm a Canucks fan. It's not realistic to give up 4 prime assets for one players.


Call it a good offer, but not GREAT offer
 
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