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Big Trade Attempt 4

Created by: MNHockey19
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 21, 2022
Published: Jun. 21, 2022
Team: 2022-23 Minnesota Wild
Team Explanation
Still basically just playing with this idea, however unlikely it may seem. I just wanted to see how the roster would turn out if something like this trade occured
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Zacha, Pavel3$3,750,000
Middleton, Jacob2$2,100,000
Dewar, Connor2$1,100,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
DeSmith, Casey1$1,250,000
Deslauriers, Nicolas1$750,000
Husso, Ville4$4,500,000
Klingberg, John2$5,250,000
Trades
1.
MIN
  1. Zacha, Pavel [RFA Rights]
  2. Holtz, Alexander
  3. 2022 2nd round pick (NJD)
NJD
  1. Talbot, Cam
  2. Dumba, Matt
  3. Fiala, Kevin [RFA Rights]
  4. 2022 5th round pick (MIN)
2.
MIN
  1. 2022 3rd round pick (SEA)
SEA
  1. Jost, Tyson
3.
MIN
  1. 2022 4th round pick (PIT)
PIT
  1. Kulikov, Dmitry
Buyouts
  • Zach Parise: $6,371,794
  • Ryan Suter: $6,371,794
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2022
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2023
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2024
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$82,500,000$81,651,921$0$2,382,500$848,079
Left WingCenterRight Wing
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Kaprizov, Kirill
$9,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 4
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Hartman, Ryan
$1,700,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
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Zuccarello, Mats
$6,000,000
RW, LW
NMC NTC
UFA - 2
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Boldy, Matthew
$880,833
LW, RW
RFA - 1
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Rossi, Marco
$863,333
C
RFA - 3
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Holtz, Alexander
$894,167
RW, LW
RFA - 3
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Foligno, Marcus
$3,100,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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Eriksson Ek, Joel
$5,250,000
C
UFA - 7
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Greenway, Jordan
$3,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
Zacha, Pavel
$3,750,000
LW, C
RFA
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Gaudreau, Frédérick
$1,200,000
C
UFA - 1
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Duhaime, Brandon
$750,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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Middleton, Jacob
$2,100,000
LD
UFA - 3
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Spurgeon, Jared
$7,575,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 5
Husso, Ville
$4,500,000
G
NTC
UFA - 3
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Brodin, Jonas
$6,000,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 6
Klingberg, John
$5,250,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 1
DeSmith, Casey
$1,250,000
G
UFA - 2
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Merrill, Jon
$1,200,000
LD
UFA - 3
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Addison, Calen
$795,000
RD
RFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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Goligoski, Alex
$2,000,000
LD/RD
NMC
UFA - 2
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Dewar, Connor
$1,100,000
LW
RFA - 2
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Deslauriers, Nicolas
$750,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 4

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Jun. 21 at 11:39 a.m.
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Still can't see Devils having any interest in pending UFAs
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Jun. 21 at 11:39 a.m.
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Can’t see why Devils would entertain trading Holtz for a winger.
They might have some interest in Talbot however.
Jun. 21 at 11:41 a.m.
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Quoting: HeadHighSauce
Still can't see Devils having any interest in pending UFAs


Lets say Fiala has an extension in place before the trade, does that change anything?
Jun. 21 at 11:42 a.m.
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Quoting: MNHockey19
Lets say Fiala has an extension in place before the trade, does that change anything?


I'm talking about Dumba and Talbot. I doubt the Devils have any interest in them at all.

Devils will not trade for Fiala without an extension in place.
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Jun. 21 at 11:43 a.m.
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Wow, that's really bad value for Minnesota.
Jun. 21 at 11:45 a.m.
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Quoting: Digitalbooya06
Wow, that's really bad value for Minnesota.


What would you add
Jun. 21 at 11:51 a.m.
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It’s one of the better offers from Minnesota on value, but I don’t think NJD would be spending a whole lot on Dumba or Talbot.

Zacha + #37 + prospect* for Fiala

* Boqvist, Zetterlund, Thompson, Foote, Walsh level of prospect.
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Jun. 21 at 12:07 p.m.
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Quoting: NHLfan10506
It’s one of the better offers from Minnesota on value, but I don’t think NJD would be spending a whole lot on Dumba or Talbot.

Zacha + #37 + prospect* for Fiala

* Boqvist, Zetterlund, Thompson, Foote, Walsh level of prospect.


Zacha, Thompson, 2023 top 5 protected first for Fiala and Talbot, how’s that? MN would need to flip Jost and Kulikov as cap dumps I think to keep Zacha, but it could be done. I’m very much intrigued by Zacha, just worry about the cap space.
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Jun. 21 at 12:15 p.m.
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Not sure why Klingberg would sign a 2 year deal, that is cheap as well. If a team wanted him to just sign 2 years, promising more in the future, they would have to pay more than that still. If he gets injured or plays terrible, there goes his chance to make a lot of money.
Jun. 21 at 12:41 p.m.
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Quoting: MNHockey19
What would you add


Fiala in reality should return Holtz and probably something else or 7th overall from Ottawa or 13th overall+ from NYI or 11th overall+ from Anaheim or 19th overall+good prospect from LA. So that makes the rest of your trade Dumba+Talbot+5th for Zacha+2nd. Dumba by himself should return at least a late 1st+prospect. Talbot probably a late 2nd in this draft or a 3rd in 2023.

So in reality, you're skipping out on something like 7th overall + late 1st + prospect + 2nd/3rd for Holtz + unnecessary player in Zacha + 2nd.

Give me the option where Brackett has more picks to work with while still having this roster:

Kap-Hartman-Zucc
Boldy-Rossi-Gaudreau
Greenway-Eriksson Ek-Foligno

Brodin-Kulikov
Middleton-Spurgeon
Merrill-Addison

(MAF)
(UFA)
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Jun. 21 at 3:06 p.m.
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Quoting: IcemanJoe
Zacha, Thompson, 2023 top 5 protected first for Fiala and Talbot, how’s that? MN would need to flip Jost and Kulikov as cap dumps I think to keep Zacha, but it could be done. I’m very much intrigued by Zacha, just worry about the cap space.


I don’t think we move a 1st, but it would a protected 2023 or 2024 if we did. And we could use a year of Kulikov.
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Jun. 21 at 3:33 p.m.
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Quoting: NHLfan10506
It’s one of the better offers from Minnesota on value, but I don’t think NJD would be spending a whole lot on Dumba or Talbot.

Zacha + #37 + prospect* for Fiala

* Boqvist, Zetterlund, Thompson, Foote, Walsh level of prospect.


Words cannot begin to describe the disdain I have for these types of proposals. You might as well not even post it because it will never happen.
 
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