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Reeeebuild

Created by: justaBoss
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 21, 2022
Published: Jun. 21, 2022
Team: 2022-23 Montreal Canadiens
Team Explanation
Trading everyone that is
- 25+ year old
- Don't cost assets to dump

DISCLAIMER: THE ANDERSON TRADE IS BAD ON PURPOSE, I'M DOING AN AVERAGE HABS FAN THING AND ASSUMING CHEVELDAYOFF IS GOING TO BE AN IDIOT
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Romanov, Alexander3$2,550,000
Pitlick, Rem2$1,750,000
Appleton, Mason1$1,500,000
Primeau, Cayden1$874,125
Montembeault, Samuel2$762,500
Schueneman, Corey2$762,500
Clague, Kale2$762,500
Teasdale, Joël1$750,000
Schnarr, Nathan1$750,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Dauphin, Laurent3$950,000
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
Wright, Shane3$925,000
Trades
1.
MTL
  1. Damiani, Riley
  2. Khudobin, Anton
  3. 2022 2nd round pick (DAL)
  4. 2024 2nd round pick (DAL)
DAL
  1. Petry, Jeff ($1,562,500 retained)
Additional Details:
2022 Draft deal
2.
MTL
  1. Appleton, Mason [RFA Rights]
  2. Torgersson, Daniel
  3. Malott, Jeff [RFA Rights]
  4. 2022 1st round pick (WPG)
WPG
  1. Anderson, Josh
  2. Pezzetta, Michael [RFA Rights]
  3. Brook, Josh [RFA Rights]
Additional Details:
2022 Draft deal

I found one case in recent NHL history of a mid-6 winger like Anderson being overpaid for a trade during offseason - Kasperi Kapanen trade from TOR back to PIT. I'm taking example of that.
3.
MTL
  1. Petrov, Matvei
  2. 2023 3rd round pick (EDM)
EDM
  1. Allen, Jake
Additional Details:
2022 Offseason deal
4.
MTL
  1. 2023 2nd round pick (WSH)
WSH
  1. Dadonov, Evgeni ($2,500,000 retained)
Additional Details:
2023 Deadline deal
5.
MTL
  1. Primeau, Mason
  2. 2024 3rd round pick (VGK)
Additional Details:
VGK also pays a 2025 4th for PHI to retain $1,375,000 of Drouin's remaining salary.
VGK
  1. Drouin, Jonathan ($2,750,000 retained)
Additional Details:
2023 Deadline deal
6.
MTL
    Picks and Prospects during 2023 Draft/Offseason - I won't bother predicting the finishing order for 2022-23 season so I'm not putting here specific team/picks, but let's say these guys will return in one decent prospect, a late first round pick, a cap dump and two second rounders.
    DAL
    1. Dvorak, Christian
    2. Edmundson, Joel
    3. Savard, David
    Buyouts
    • Karl Alzner: $833,333
    Retained Salary Transactions
    • Jeff Petry: $1,562,500 (25%)
    • Evgeni Dadonov: $2,500,000 (50%)
    • Jonathan Drouin: $2,750,000 (50%)
    Buried
    • Anton Khudobin: $2,208,333 ($3,333,333)
    DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
    2022
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    2023
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    2024
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    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    23$82,500,000$65,532,498$1,132,500$1,990,000$16,967,502
    Left WingCenterRight Wing
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    Pitlick, Rem
    $1,750,000
    LW, C
    UFA - 2
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    Suzuki, Nick
    $7,875,000
    C
    UFA - 8
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    Caufield, Cole
    $880,833
    LW, RW
    RFA - 1
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    Hoffman, Mike
    $4,500,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 2
    Wright, Shane
    $925,000
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    Gallagher, Brendan
    $6,500,000
    RW
    NMC NTC
    UFA - 5
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    Ylönen, Jesse
    $880,833
    RW, LW
    RFA - 1
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    Poehling, Ryan
    $750,000
    C, LW
    RFA - 1
    Appleton, Mason
    $1,500,000
    RW
    UFA - 3
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    Byron, Paul
    $3,400,000
    LW, RW, C
    UFA - 1
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    Evans, Jake
    $1,700,000
    C, RW
    UFA - 3
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    Armia, Joel
    $3,400,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 3
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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    Guhle, Kaiden
    $863,333
    LD
    RFA - 3
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    Romanov, Alexander
    $2,550,000
    LD/RD
    RFA
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    Price, Carey
    $10,500,000
    G
    NMC
    UFA - 4
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    Harris, Jordan
    $842,500
    LD
    RFA - 1
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    Barron, Justin
    $925,000
    RD
    RFA - 2
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    Montembeault, Samuel
    $762,500
    G
    UFA - 2
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    Schueneman, Corey
    $762,500
    LD/RD
    UFA - 1
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    Wideman, Chris
    $762,500
    RD
    UFA - 2
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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    Dauphin, Laurent
    $950,000
    C
    UFA - 1
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    Damiani, Riley
    $803,333
    C
    RFA - 1
    Logo of the MTL
    Clague, Kale
    $762,500
    LD/RD
    RFA - 1

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    Jun. 21 at 12:06 p.m.
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    I like it. Pretty much guaranteed a top 3 pick in 2023 and that's all I really care about for this franchises future
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    Jun. 21 at 12:10 p.m.
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    Oilers decline. We are keeping our diamond.
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    Jun. 21 at 12:13 p.m.
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    Oilers decline. We are keeping our diamond.


    While understandable, I'd consider capitalizing on Petrov's value now, because seeing that Oilers is looking to contend sooner rather than later I have to assume Petrov is not going to be in their plans any time soon - and if he doesn't perform in AHL that value he has gained this year will plummet pretty hard.

    I am not surprised if Petrov's value is at the highest point it's ever going to reach right now.
    Jun. 21 at 12:15 p.m.
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    Jets decline Anderson is a third liner with a horrible contract
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    Jun. 21 at 12:16 p.m.
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    Jets decline Anderson is a third liner with a horrible contract


    I'm keen to agree that his exchange is pretty bad for Jets...but I don't find Cheveldayoff the best GM around, and he could be interested in bringing a power forward along, even if it costs too much.

    He's one of the GMs on the hot seat if WPG isn't about to get successful sooner rather than later.
    Jun. 21 at 12:21 p.m.
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    Quoting: justaBoss
    While understandable, I'd consider capitalizing on Petrov's value now, because seeing that Oilers is looking to contend sooner rather than later I have to assume Petrov is not going to be in their plans any time soon - and if he doesn't perform in AHL that value he has gained this year will plummet pretty hard.

    I am not surprised if Petrov's value is at the highest point it's ever going to reach right now.


    I believe we are trying to build not just now but long term like Tampa. So the building for now thing doesn't work.
    If we trade all our really great prospects like Savoie and Petrov ect. We will be destroyed. We need those cheap 3 year players.
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    Jun. 21 at 12:23 p.m.
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    Quoting: Copenhagen
    I believe we are trying to build not just now but long term like Tampa. So the building for now thing doesn't work.
    If we trade all our really great prospects like Savoie and Petrov ect. We will be destroyed. We need those cheap 3 year players.


    I...can't agree with that statement. Just about nothing what Holland has done is pointing out to that direction. He's not targeting guys to fill an exact need, he's not signing guys to team friendly contacts, and he hasn't been able to build a roster that is defensively stable. That roster relies way too much on McDavid and Draisaitl - way more than Tampa relies on their top guys.
    Jun. 21 at 12:28 p.m.
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    Quoting: justaBoss
    I...can't agree with that statement. Just about nothing what Holland has done is pointing out to that direction. He's not targeting guys to fill an exact need, he's not signing guys to team friendly contacts, and he hasn't been able to build a roster that is defensively stable. That roster relies way too much on McDavid and Draisaitl - way more than Tampa relies on their top guys.


    Yup Defensively stable is how we got screwed with the KlembombLarsson problem which lead to Barrie Keith. Our defensive would have been fantastic and it is exactly what we are still lacking. Holland is trading picks, not prospects. Allen will get lit up like the rest of our goalies with our defense.
    Kane, Hyman, McLeod and Yamamoto were very very good for us, so saying we are relying on McDavid and Draisaitl is not a fair statement to make anymore.
    Jun. 21 at 12:30 p.m.
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    Jets Decline
    Nothing coming back worth what we are giving up
    Jun. 21 at 12:30 p.m.
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    Oilers reject.
    Jun. 21 at 12:31 p.m.
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    Quoting: Copenhagen
    Yup Defensively stable is how we got screwed with the KlembombLarsson problem which lead to Barrie Keith. Our defensive would have been fantastic and it is exactly what we are still lacking. Holland is trading picks, not prospects. Allen will get lit up like the rest of our goalies with our defense.
    Kane, Hyman, McLeod and Yamamoto were very very good for us, so saying we are relying on McDavid and Draisaitl is not a fair statement to make anymore.


    I'd argue they were pretty average - if anything because McDavid and Draisaitl were so good they made those guys look better than they actually were.

    I mean come on, Kane and Hyman were praised by their contribution in the playoffs score wise - yet they barely managed 50% of the scoring McDavid and Draisaitl achieved.

    Put everyone of them except maybe McLeod to any other team and their production will drop, it's almost a guarantee.
    Jun. 21 at 12:35 p.m.
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    Not a chance Chevy takes on that contract. Terrible value for the Jets. There’s a reason you could only find one example of a trade like that
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    Jun. 21 at 12:36 p.m.
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    Not a chance Chevy takes on that contract. Terrible value for the Jets


    Yeah I agree, it's bad for the Jets. Doesn't mean it couldn't happen.
    Jun. 21 at 12:36 p.m.
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    I'd argue they were pretty average - if anything because McDavid and Draisaitl were so good they made those guys look better than they actually were.

    I mean come on, Kane and Hyman were praised by their contribution in the playoffs score wise - yet they barely managed 50% of the scoring McDavid and Draisaitl achieved.

    Put everyone of them except maybe McLeod to any other team and their production will drop, it's almost a guarantee.


    Ok with that so why doesn't everyone excel with McDavid and Draisaitl?
    A special player works good with each of them, Maroon for example.
    JP cant put up points with them. Lots cant, its been years of trying. So your point is completely wrong.
    Furthermore it once again comes down to our defense and fixing that huge problem.
    Jun. 21 at 12:38 p.m.
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    Ok with that so why doesn't everyone excel with McDavid and Draisaitl?
    A special player works good with each of them, Maroon for example.
    JP cant put up points with them. Lots cant, its been years of trying. So your point is completely wrong.
    Furthermore it once again comes down to our defense and fixing that huge problem.


    Because Maroon is a 4th liner, he's never been a scorer. Puljujärvi is completely special case, I can't understand why he's not putting up points, yet advanced stats show that both McDavid and Draisaitl play better hockey with Pulju than without him.
    Jun. 21 at 12:47 p.m.
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    Yeah I agree, it's bad for the Jets. Doesn't mean it couldn't happen.


    I could also win the $60M lotto max tonight but it ain’t gonna happen.
    Jun. 21 at 12:51 p.m.
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    I could also win the $60M lotto max tonight but it ain’t gonna happen.


    Yeah I added a disclaimer to the description just to save people from having this exchange again.
     
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