Not enough of a return to justify taking Mrazek's contract. Pass.

Eh, I think it’s reasonable. Don’t like waiting until 2024 for the 2nd rounder but I think a 2nd is fair. It’d be better with another pick like a 3rd maybe that we can use sooner.

How much do you want. A first for a sub 4M contract??? Last we’ve seen a first get traded in a cap dump was for a 6.25M contract in Marleau I believe. People also forget everything before his Leafs season. Unless if you want their finnish prospects but they’d rather go in another way.

I don’t like what you did with the lineup. Fabbri is not a Center, Berggren should never be playing on the 4th line and Sundqvist should be on the 4th line. Make the 3rd Ras, Veleno & Berg and it’s much better.

I’m OK with the trades.

Mrazek's buyout isn't that bad it makes more sense to just buy him out before giving up a bunch of picks.

What would be your lineup from line 1 to 4. I am confused. Fabbri is a LW right but he isn’t on line 1 nor on line 3. Also Berg on the 4th is temporary.

Eh. 1.5M penalty in yr3 and 4. We know how valuable money is for Toronto

failure is an option

It was backloaded, so there's still 8.6m of REAL money owed. An A level asset (late 1st) or 2 B+ level assets is a reasonable cost.

It's not a sub 4 million dollar contract because it's 2 years. 7.6 million is more than the Marleau deal stretched out over a longer period. And since Mrazek would need to be bought out (he'll never play here again) the situation is the same. Plus the contract is backloaded. If they want to buy him out: more power to them. That doesn't change the price to dump him to us.

But still I believe the Leafs want to fully get up under that contract without having to deal with any cap penalty. They will always be around and slightly over 80M yearly for their cap. They got some prospects coming up that would require money during the later year of the buyout (unless if something bad happens and they blow up the core 4, but still it’s hard to move those big contracts while saving money).

Can't compare the two contracts since Marleau's was a 35+ with a NMC. Even with a buyout his full freight stayed on the cap. Mrazek has no trade protection and can be bought out reasonably. Do the Leafs want to do that, of course not. But they're not over a barrel or desperate or forced to do anything that they don't want to.

The Leafs can afford a bit of bad cap space. They literally have no bad contracts right now outside of Mrazek, and will need to make a choice. Kyle Dubas has an incredible track record of making deals that help his team long and short term, so I have faith he'll handle the Mrazek situation. And the price will be a lot lower than people on here think because, well, none of us know anything.

I disagree that Toronto can afford to have dead cap; they need to sign 4 forwards, 2 defensemen, a starting goalie and a back-up. All with a whopping total of 7.8 million. But that's all beside the point. Just because Toronto could buy him out doesn't lower the price to dump him. And your last sentence doesn't make sense. If none of us know anything then you could just as easily be wrong.

It does make sense. Real-life NHL deals and trades consistently show that this board is often wrong, sometimes massively wrong, on players values. In general, this board overvalues cap space and young players instead of proven commodities. They also "charge" higher prices for cap flexibility as a result, and make ridiculous trade demands that are never close. It's because we're all fans, not NHL general managers who do this for a living. Of course I could be wrong, I'm willing to admit that. It's hard though when most other people here don't. So to treat your opinion as fact is, well, kind of embarrassing...

I think the forward core looks pretty realistic, but overall this team is physically weak. I think there has to be more toughness and leadership on the roster. Or we are gonna end up like NJ Devils, a lot of skilled players, but soft and easy to play against.

More BS. I've just as often seen underwhelming deals on here. When I first joined here Leafs fans were trying to trade Nylander for a 3rd! If you admit when you're wrong than admit that you made a silly, self-serving statement that didn't make sense. You implied that you were on the the right side plain and simple. I'm not going to argue semantics with you any longer but you may want to read your last two posts and then look up the word irony.