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Created by: HolyShildt

Team: 2022-23 St. Louis Blues

Initial Creation Date: Jun. 23, 2022

Published: Jun. 23, 2022

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

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Really looking to improve the future of this team with this one

I saw a few Bruins ACGM trades involving Barbashev and Gryz, figured this would be fair value

Am very interested in the prospects of a Kakko for Tarasenko trade. Kakko is starting to blossom as a very good defensive forward, and don't get me started on him getting benched in the playoffs. Saw some similar trades with him and Patrick Kane, and to be fair, I think Vladdy would be a better fit. Once again, not sure on the value
Getting rid of Tarasenko frees up some cap, and I would love to potentially get Marchment, but I figure the cap room could be used wisely to bring a certain brother home
All in all, got kinda bored, but probably would be content with just Sturn and Gryz, but if the values are right I think this could extend our window much longer than it currently is set up to be

Free Agent Signings

RFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Perunovich, Scott	1	$1,250,000
Kakko, Kaapo	1	$2,500,000
Mikkola, Niko	1	$1,250,000
Kostin, Klim	1	$1,250,000

UFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Sturm, Nico	3	$1,500,000
Perron, David	4	$4,750,000
Lindgren, Charlie	1	$950,000

Trades

STL

Grzelcyk, Matt

BOS

Barbashev, Ivan
2022 3rd round pick (STL)

STL

2022 7th round pick (DET)

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Any team's plan Z

DET

Scandella, Marco
2023 3rd round pick (STL)

STL

Kakko, Kaapo [RFA Rights]
2023 1st round pick (NYR)

NYR

Tarasenko, Vladimir

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2022
2023
2024

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
24	$82,500,000	$72,810,833	$1,100,000	$82,500	$9,689,167

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Saad, Brandon $4,500,000$4,500,000 LW, RW NTC UFA - 4	Thomas, Robert $2,800,000$2,800,000 C, RW UFA - 1	Kyrou, Jordan $2,800,000$2,800,000 RW UFA - 1
Buchnevich, Pavel $5,800,000$5,800,000 LW, RW, C M-NTC UFA - 3	O'Reilly, Ryan $1,875,000$1,875,000 C UFA - 1	Perron, David $4,750,000$4,750,000 RW, LW UFA - 2
Neighbours, Jake $835,833$835,833 ($82,500$82K) LW, RW RFA - 3	Schenn, Brayden $6,500,000$6,500,000 C, LW NTC UFA - 6	Kakko, Kaapo $2,500,000$2,500,000 RW RFA - 2
Walker, Nathan $750,000$750,000 LW UFA - 1	Sturm, Nico $1,500,000$1,500,000 C UFA - 3	Toropchenko, Alexey $750,000$750,000 LW, RW RFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
	Parayko, Colton $6,500,000$6,500,000 RD NTC UFA - 8	Binnington, Jordan $6,000,000$6,000,000 G NTC UFA - 5
Grzelcyk, Matt $3,687,500$3,687,500 LD UFA - 2	Faulk, Justin $6,500,000$6,500,000 RD NTC UFA - 5
Krug, Torey $6,500,000$6,500,000 LD NTC UFA - 5	Bortuzzo, Robert $950,000$950,000 RD UFA - 2	Lindgren, Charlie $950,000$950,000 G UFA - 3
Perunovich, Scott $1,250,000$1,250,000 LD RFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Mikkola, Niko $1,250,000$1,250,000 LD UFA - 1
Brown, Logan $750,000$750,000 C, LW RFA - 1
Rosén, Calle $762,500$762,500 LD UFA - 2
Kostin, Klim $1,250,000$1,250,000 LW, RW RFA - 1

Jun. 23, 2022 at 6:48 a.m.

noted

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THE BLUES ARE NOT GOING TO TRADE FOR ANOTHER 5’9” LHD

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Jun. 23, 2022 at 7:12 a.m.

LVNYR_FAN

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You'd have to address about $5M in cap for Rangers to consider.

Jun. 23, 2022 at 7:48 a.m.

BluesTheGreats

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That defence would get shredded in the playoffs physically. I know the game is shifting to speed but you aren’t winning with a few big guys and mostly tiny players

Jun. 23, 2022 at 10:20 a.m.

slater417

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Rangers say no.
Kakko is not being moved for a wing, let alone a pending UFA.

Kakko and laf are the core of a 2nd window. Kakko for maybe Robert Thomas. The rangers need centers, not wingers.

Jun. 23, 2022 at 11:05 a.m.

Chopper02

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Quoting: slater417

Rangers say no.
Kakko is not being moved for a wing, let alone a pending UFA.

Kakko and laf are the core of a 2nd window. Kakko for maybe Robert Thomas. The rangers need centers, not wingers.

Yeah, Thomas requires at the very least Schneider AND Kakko plus a pick. Kakko is not worth what you think he's worth.

Jun. 23, 2022 at 12:16 p.m.

Billy12Bob

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If A to Y falls through, Detroit will accept.

Jun. 23, 2022 at 12:27 p.m.

jschultz18

Why not us

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Quoting: Chopper02

Yeah, Thomas requires at the very least Schneider AND Kakko plus a pick. Kakko is not worth what you think he's worth.

Kakkos value is definitely still very high. Played pretty solid in the playoffs and was part of our most consistent line (when GG wasn't giving them only 10min of TOI).

Jun. 23, 2022 at 1:56 p.m.

slater417

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Quoting: Chopper02

Yeah, Thomas requires at the very least Schneider AND Kakko plus a pick. Kakko is not worth what you think he's worth.

Not saying anything about kakko's value. Im saying we're not moving him for a winger. Also theres plenty of examples of players whove taken a few years to fully develop. Theres a reason a guy goes 2nd overall, and most GM's still see plenty about him that gives him a high value.

Jun. 23, 2022 at 2:00 p.m.

HolyShildt

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Quoting: noted

THE BLUES ARE NOT GOING TO TRADE FOR ANOTHER 5’9” LHD

Quoting: BluesTheGreats

That defence would get shredded in the playoffs physically. I know the game is shifting to speed but you aren’t winning with a few big guys and mostly tiny players

Gryz is not your prototypical short offensive defenseman. He is ABSOLUTELY ELITE defensively and can move the puck with the best of them. We need to stop worrying about size and just get Parayko someone that CP doesn't have to try to bail out every game, and Gryz is just that. If you think the blues should pay a premium for Chychrun, or get a lesser, yet bigger dman in Soucy, that's fine, but lets not try to force ourselves to get the next Scandella in FA because he's tall

Jun. 23, 2022 at 2:09 p.m.

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A_K

Lets Go Blues

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Quoting: HolyShildt

Wholeheartedly agree with you. Playing a clean game defensively has nothing to do with height, and not all undersized d-men play the same type of game. Grz would be a nice pickup.

Jun. 23, 2022 at 5:00 p.m.

#11

noted

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Quoting: HolyShildt

You want the entire left side of the Blues defense to be guys 5'9" and under...I don't know what the future holds, but I'm pretty confident that it's not that. I don't think the Blues start next year with both Krug and Perrunovich in the lineup and now you want to add a 3rd undersized Dman. We'll see but I doubt it...

Jun. 24, 2022 at 7:29 a.m.

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Chopper02

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Quoting: slater417

Kakko is a solid player, don't get me wrong. But his value is not nearly as high as it was. Yes, he was taken 2nd overall for a reason, just like Lias Anderson was taken 7th overall, Yakupov was taken 1st overall, etc. I dont think Kakko is worth what it used to be, but I also acknowledge the Rangers have no need to move him. At this point, he's no bust by any means, but at best I think we can assume he has a Nichuskin like arc to his career

Jun. 24, 2022 at 7:30 a.m.

#13

Chopper02

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Quoting: jschultz18

Kakkos value is definitely still very high. Played pretty solid in the playoffs and was part of our most consistent line (when GG wasn't giving them only 10min of TOI).

His value isn't that high, certainly not close to anything like Thomas. That stated, Rangers have no reason to move him.

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