How to get a second line C

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Created by: Chairman

Team: 2022-23 Detroit Red Wings

Initial Creation Date: Jun. 24, 2022

Published: Jun. 24, 2022

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

No idea what we are doing to do for a patchwork second line C, Here's a strange way to do it tied to a rumor.

Free Agent Signings

RFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Walman, Jake	1	$900,000
Stephens, Mitchell	1	$825,000
Zadina, Filip	2	$1,750,000

UFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Staal, Marc	1	$2,250,000
Forsberg, Filip	7	$8,500,000
Jones, Martin	2	$2,250,000
Kulak, Brett	3	$3,000,000

Trades

DET

Wheeler, Blake

Additional Details:

Don't know Wheeler's Value but heard potentially on 31 thoughts he wants a change of scenery and WIN wants the cap space

WPG

Stephens, Mitchell
Veleno, Joseph
2022 4th round pick (COL)
2023 2nd round pick (STL)

Buyouts

Justin Abdelkader: $2,305,556
Frans Nielsen: $500,000

Retained Salary Transactions

Richard Pánik: $1,375,000 (50%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2022
2023
2024

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$82,500,000	$69,728,889	$0	$3,350,000	$12,771,111

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Forsberg, Filip $8,500,000$8,500,000 LW UFA - 8	Larkin, Dylan $6,100,000$6,100,000 C NTC UFA - 1	Raymond, Lucas $925,000$925,000 ($2,500,000$2M) RW, LW RFA - 2
Vrána, Jakub $2,625,000$2,625,000 LW UFA - 2	Wheeler, Blake $8,250,000$8,250,000 RW M-NTC, NMC UFA - 2	Bertuzzi, Tyler $2,375,000$2,375,000 LW, RW UFA - 1
Zadina, Filip $1,750,000$1,750,000 RW, LW RFA - 3	Suter, Pius $3,250,000$3,250,000 C, LW UFA - 1	Berggren, Jonatan $925,000$925,000 RW, LW RFA - 2
Erne, Adam $2,100,000$2,100,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Rasmussen, Michael $1,460,000$1,460,000 LW, C UFA - 2	Sundqvist, Oskar $2,750,000$2,750,000 RW, C UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Kulak, Brett $3,000,000$3,000,000 LD/RD UFA - 4	Seider, Moritz $863,333$863,333 ($850,000$850K) RD RFA - 2	Nedeljkovic, Alex $3,000,000$3,000,000 G UFA - 1
Staal, Marc $2,250,000$2,250,000 LD UFA - 1	Hronek, Filip $4,400,000$4,400,000 RD RFA - 2
Edvinsson, Simon $925,000$925,000 LD RFA - 4		Jones, Martin $2,250,000$2,250,000 G UFA - 1
Walman, Jake $900,000$900,000 LD UFA - 1	Lindström, Gustav $850,000$850,000 RD RFA - 1
	Oesterle, Jordan $1,350,000$1,350,000 LD/RD UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Smith, Givani $750,000$750,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Fabbri, Robby $4,000,000$4,000,000 LW UFA - 3

Jun. 24, 2022 at 8:41 a.m.

ForsbergForVezina

CHI NYI

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Josh Bailey plays on the Islanders’ 2nd line and is listed as a center on Hockey Reference you can have him

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Jun. 24, 2022 at 8:42 a.m.

MellowK

Joined: Jul. 2021

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Wheeler isn't a center, he hasn't been for a couple years.

He also doesn't have positive value, at least at his full cap hit.

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Jun. 24, 2022 at 8:42 a.m.

Lenny7

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Faceoffs aren't really the biggest deal when it comes to being a center, but Wheeler has won a total of 7 in the past 115 games. Given that he'll be 36 this upcoming season, something tells me his days at C are probably behind him.

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Jun. 24, 2022 at 8:51 a.m.

vikhodush

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He’s not really a center. And you can also get him for nothing with no retention. Even with retention this might be too much

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Jun. 24, 2022 at 8:52 a.m.

DeadWingsv2

PlusMinus is stupid

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F' that, I don't want Wheeler for free...

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Jun. 24, 2022 at 9:09 a.m.

Jfstompers

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Draft nazar or gauthier, sign strome to plug in there for now.

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Jun. 24, 2022 at 9:15 a.m.

RedWings86

Joined: Dec. 2018

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Wheeler isn’t a player a rebuilding team like the Wings trade for.

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Jun. 24, 2022 at 9:39 a.m.

Nix

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yep done no take backs

Jun. 24, 2022 at 9:47 a.m.

Chairman

Thread Starter

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Lol totally get it just trying to clear the logjam we have for bottom forwards and get something of a placeholder for 2nd line C for a few years and get above cap floor.

So what’s an alternative?? How do we get a 2nd line C?

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Jun. 24, 2022 at 10:03 a.m.

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Wolverrobert

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Too old. Only makes sense if you have an actual contender just missing that last piece and the cap space to take it on. This is not a contender, even with Forsberg. We need much better defense and goaltending than this to actually contend.

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Jun. 24, 2022 at 10:05 a.m.

#11

DeadWingsv2

PlusMinus is stupid

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Quoting: Chairman

Options:
- Sign Trochek or Strome
- Sign Copp and try him back at center (even though he's been playing mostly wing the last couple years)
- Make a trade, but like... for someone good...
- Let Veleno or Suter win the job in camp

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Jun. 24, 2022 at 10:43 a.m.

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Jetman

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Joe Veleno, a 2nd and a 3rd for Wheeler 2.25M retained(6M cap hit) and Schmidt

Jun. 24, 2022 at 12:11 p.m.

#13

TampaBayLightning22

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Blake Wheeler is a RW not a Center, He has a 5 team trade list. And yeah Detroit's not on it.

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