Mostly Going off Rumours so DAL and NYI Fans Please Dont Whine About the Value

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Created by: SlafCaufZuki

Team: 2022-23 Montreal Canadiens

Initial Creation Date: Jun. 26, 2022

Published: Jun. 26, 2022

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

Not saying the other teams should do these deals, in fact I think most of these deals would be dumb for the other teams, I’m just going off actual rumours (not speculation) that have been circulated online by insiders and people with sources.

Free Agent Signings

RFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Puljujärvi, Jesse	4	$3,750,000
Pitlick, Rem	2	$1,250,000
Montembeault, Samuel	2	$800,000
Schueneman, Corey	2	$800,000
Pezzetta, Michael	2	$800,000
Romanov, Alexander	2	$2,300,000
Primeau, Cayden	1	$750,000
Teasdale, Joël	1	$750,000
Brook, Josh	1	$750,000

CREATED		YEARS	CAP HIT
Wright, Shane		3	$925,000

Trades

MTL

2022 1st round pick (NYI)

NYI

Anderson, Josh

Additional Details:

“ Reports coming in that the #Isles have shown growing interest in #GoHabsGo Josh Anderson and are rumored to be willing to send their 13th overall pick to get a deal done.

Losing count as to how many teams have inquired on Anderson. Could be all smoke or maybe...#NHL”

MTL

Khudobin, Anton
2022 1st round pick (DAL)

DAL

Petry, Jeff
2022 3rd round pick (CAR)

Additional Details:

Multiple sources have tied the Stars as a team interested in Petry, especially if Klingberg walks. I don’t think i need to cite a quote for this one. The 3rd and Khudobin are there to make the value fair and to help Dallas shore up cap space.

MTL

2024 2nd round pick (FLA)

ARI

Hoffman, Mike
2022 4th round pick (TBL)

Additional Details:

I can’t find a good quote sadly, but multiple insiders have said that instead of acquiring dead cap (I.e. Weber’s contract), they would actually rather trade for big contracts with short term that can play a decent amount of minutes on their roster to fill out the lineup. Hoffman fits the criteria of this, plus he could probably gain some value if he’s pegged with Keller for a season and he could be flipped at the deadline for a bigger return.

MTL

Barrie, Tyson
Puljujärvi, Jesse [RFA Rights]

EDM

Additional Details:

This is the only trade in this AGM that I’m more-so speculating on, so feel free to reply with criticism on the value as I’m really not sure. Everyone knows that Puljujarvi is probably on the block and it’s been confirmed by insiders that the Oilers almost acquired Allen at the deadline + that goaltending is an issue for them rn, so they’re definitely still interested in him. Allen is worth around a 2nd round pick in this market and Puljujarvi is probably worth just a bit over that, so taking on Barrie’s contract and giving the Oilers a young, cheap bottom 6 forward in Poehling evens out the value imo. Let me know if any side should add.

Buyouts

Karl Alzner: $833,333

Buried

Anton Khudobin: $2,208,333 ($3,333,333)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2022
2023
2024

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$83,500,000	$72,990,832	$1,132,500	$1,570,000	$10,509,168

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Drouin, Jonathan $5,500,000$5,500,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 1	Suzuki, Nick $7,875,000$7,875,000 C UFA - 8	Dadonov, Evgeni $2,500,000$2,500,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 1
Puljujärvi, Jesse $3,750,000$3,750,000 RW UFA - 1	Wright, Shane $925,000$925,000	Caufield, Cole $880,833$880,833 ($850,000$850K) LW, RW UFA - 1
Armia, Joel $3,400,000$3,400,000 RW, LW UFA - 3	Dvorak, Christian $4,450,000$4,450,000 C UFA - 3	Gallagher, Brendan $6,500,000$6,500,000 RW, LW M-NTC, NMC UFA - 5
Pitlick, Rem $1,250,000$1,250,000 LW, RW UFA - 2	Evans, Jake $1,700,000$1,700,000 C UFA - 3	Ylönen, Jesse $880,833$880,833 RW, LW RFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Edmundson, Joel $875,000$875,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 2	Barrie, Tyson $4,500,000$4,500,000 RD UFA - 2	Price, Carey $10,500,000$10,500,000 G NMC UFA - 4
Romanov, Alexander $2,300,000$2,300,000 LD RFA - 3	Savard, David $3,500,000$3,500,000 RD UFA - 3
Harris, Jordan $842,500$842,500 ($507,500$508K) LD/RD RFA - 1	Barron, Justin $925,000$925,000 ($212,500$212K) RD RFA - 2	Montembeault, Samuel $800,000$800,000 G UFA - 2

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Byron, Paul $3,400,000$3,400,000 LW, RW UFA - 1
Schueneman, Corey $800,000$800,000 LD/RD UFA - 1
Wideman, Chris $762,500$762,500 RD UFA - 2

Jun. 26, 2022 at 3:31 p.m.

jnowariak

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I think there’s gonna be a few more pieces involved in the Anderson deal if it gets done but it’s giving off Risto trade vibes for me so that feels right as the main piece.

I think you’re looking at a 2nd and Stranges for Petry tho. Just don’t see that contract getting a 1st.

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Jun. 26, 2022 at 3:32 p.m.

Not_Isles5513

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Legit haven’t seen any rumors regarding Anderson for 13 lol

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Jun. 26, 2022 at 3:42 p.m.

TampaBayLightning22

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The only rumor i've seen linking Josh Anderson to any team was the Edmonton Oilers. Sounds like Ken Holland has huge interest in him.

Jeff Petry isn't returning no 18th overall pick from Dallas at full value i will tell you that right now. Nill wants Petry at $5,000,000 x 3 years same with Steve Yzerman you will sorely be disappointed at the return if Kent Hughes doesn't eat some money on Petry.

Jun. 26, 2022 at 3:45 p.m.

OldNYIfan

Once a Kings Fan Too

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Josh Anderson last two seasons: 121 games, 56 points.
Jesse Puljujarvi last two seasons: 120 games, 61 points.

Just an interesting comparison. Anderson is 4 years older than Puljujarvi and is due $30.5 million over the balance of his contract, while JP is currently unsigned. Of course, one can argue that Puljujarvi's stats are inflated by playing with McDavid and Draisaitl, but even so, the Islanders might prefer a cheaper RW in terms of both cap hit and acquisition cost.

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Jun. 26, 2022 at 3:47 p.m.

AndrewLadd

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Quoting: Isles5513

Legit haven’t seen any rumors regarding Anderson for 13 lol

Actually a habs “insider” with 800 insiders tweeted it out so it must be true

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Jun. 26, 2022 at 3:55 p.m.

kdawg32086

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Everyone is aware that Dallas has expressed interest in Petry, but are there any links that say what Dallas is actually offering for Petry? I think that is really what seems to be the point of contention between Montreal and Dallas fans. Most Montreal fan proposals suggest that the Stars are giving up a first round pick or a top prospect for Petry and most Dallas fans (and fans of pretty much any team other than Montreal to be fair) say it's way too much.

Is there a link somewhere from a reputable source saying that Dallas has actually offered its first round pick or a top prospect like Bourque or Harley for Petry?

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Jun. 26, 2022 at 4:19 p.m.

HabsAreSus

Leaf Fan Joke Here

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Quoting: AndrewLadd

Actually a habs “insider” with 800 insiders tweeted it out so it must be true

"800 Insiders" lol

But yes, the only source I trust is HeatDaddy or FrankSeraDaddy

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Jun. 26, 2022 at 4:27 p.m.

Campabee

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Quoting: AndrewLadd

Actually a habs “insider” with 800 insiders tweeted it out so it must be true

This isn't a "Habs insider with 800 insiders tweet". Kind of sounds like the Isle's beat writers (at least this one) are keen on sending 13th for Anderson.

https://nyihockeynow.com/new-york-islanders-nhl-draft-13th-pick-josh-anderson-mat-barzal-lou-lamoriello/

Jun. 26, 2022 at 4:43 p.m.

TheWhiteWhale

Isles555

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Quoting: Campabee

He’s not a beat writer he’s a fan with a blog who says he’s a beat writer

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Jun. 26, 2022 at 5:05 p.m.

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jpsnow13

You know nothing JS

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Quoting: kdawg32086

I'm a habs fan who think highly of Petry (no, he did not "slow down"), but no way is he worth a top 20 pick, Johnston, Bourque or Harley.

Considering Habs won't retain on him, his value is a 2nd, A/B+ prospect and a small contract coming the other way. (A bit less than Risto's return who was ridiculous)

My call is a 2024 2nd, Dellandrea and Khudobin

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Jun. 26, 2022 at 5:15 p.m.

#11

Campabee

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Quoting: TheWhiteWhale

He’s not a beat writer he’s a fan with a blog who says he’s a beat writer

I doubt he is "just a fan with a blog" as he literally graduated from the State University of New York in the field of journalism while majoring in sports management. That doesn't sound like "just a fan with a blog" to me. Perhaps he isn't a beat writer like I originally thought but he also isn't just a fan with a blog.

Jun. 26, 2022 at 5:19 p.m.

#12

Islesforthecup

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Quoting: Campabee

He is certainly not an insider, has no sources and has the same credibility as you or i posting on capfriendly.

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Jun. 26, 2022 at 5:25 p.m.

#13

Campabee

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Quoting: Islesforthecup

He is certainly not an insider, has no sources and has the same credibility as you or i posting on capfriendly.

I see, I never said he was an insider to be fair. I just said he had interest in acquiring Anderson for 13th. Even if he isn't a beat writer he also is not a "Habs insider with 800 insiders posting on Twitter" as @AndrewLadd claimed.

Jun. 26, 2022 at 5:28 p.m.

#14

KentMcNally

Fall River Habs

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I have thought of a bunch of trade scenarios involving Petry to Dallas or Pittsburgh, if Klingberg or Letang leave. I have often got caught up in Montreal getting 2022 picks from those teams. I keep forgetting, though, that the 2022 draft comes before free agency even starts. So neither Pittsburgh nor Dallas know for sure that they are losing either of those players to free agency unless the Stars or Penguins front offices have already decided that they are not going to sign Klingberg or Letang

Jun. 26, 2022 at 5:30 p.m.

#15

Nightowl26

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Please stop, please stop!! Anderson is not getting you the lsles 13th pick.....

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Jun. 26, 2022 at 5:32 p.m.

#16

Jester9881

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I just heard a credible rumor that Montreal is hot for Josh Bailey and Sergei Varlamov. They're rumored to be dangling Riley Kidney and the 1st overall in return.

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Jun. 26, 2022 at 5:49 p.m.

#17

SaucePass

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Quoting: jpsnow13

This is one of the most reasonable responses to the Petry to Dallas scenario. Well said.

If Dallas was willing to give up a first or a top prospect. The deal would already be done.

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Jun. 26, 2022 at 7:01 p.m.

#18

jpsnow13

You know nothing JS

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Quoting: SaucePass

This is one of the most reasonable responses to the Petry to Dallas scenario. Well said.

If Dallas was willing to give up a first or a top prospect. The deal would already be done.

Since Dallas stiil has hope to resign Klinberg (and Pittsburgh to resign Letang, etc), teams offers must still be pretty low right now.

To maximize his return, I expect MTL to wait for the opening of the UFA market. More teams would have the capspace to compete for Petry and Hugues will negociate from a strong position with teams unable to sign a big name...It's not like they need to trade him before the draft to get a 2022 pick anyway.

Jun. 27, 2022 at 2:19 a.m.

#19

Islesforthecup

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Quoting: Campabee

Really??
"I’m just going off actual rumours (not speculation) that have been circulated online by insiders and people with sources."
Copied and pasted from your description.

Jun. 27, 2022 at 9:43 a.m.

#20

Campabee

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Quoting: Islesforthecup

Really??
"I’m just going off actual rumours (not speculation) that have been circulated online by insiders and people with sources."
Copied and pasted from your description.

LMAO, this is not my thread! you are quoting\confusing Drivefor25 (the OP) with me, no worries though I have done that myself LOL.

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Jun. 27, 2022 at 1:36 p.m.

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Islesforthecup

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Quoting: Campabee

LMAO, this is not my thread! you are quoting\confusing Drivefor25 (the OP) with me, no worries though I have done that myself LOL.

Oh my bad lmaooooo

Jun. 27, 2022 at 1:40 p.m.

#22

Islesforthecup

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Quoting: Campabee

Lets try this again lol. He is the same as me posting bellows for caufield on CF. Like i get he writes for some site but its not a reputable site or anything its random people giving their opinions. I highly doubt even people with real sources (kevin weekes, frank seravalli) know whats going on in lous organization let alone stephen freakin rosner.

Jun. 27, 2022 at 2:11 p.m.

#23

Campabee

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Quoting: Islesforthecup

Oh my bad lmaooooo

No worries like I said lol.

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Jun. 27, 2022 at 2:13 p.m.

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Campabee

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Edited Jun. 27, 2022 at 2:24 p.m.

Quoting: Islesforthecup

I assume, from your description of his site and him,it is more like the HockeyWriters site we see pop up in searches for rumors then. If that's the case I apologize for the confusion and concede your point lol

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