Caps accept

Unlikely Winnipeg trades all those pieces for low value, high quantity returns. That's not a good way to start a rebuild.

unfortunately dylan demelo once took an uber with a few friends in ottawa and because of that i don’t think the sens will
take him back. ****ing rights melo

DeMelo has Ottawa on his no-trade list and we are not massively overpaying for Ehlers.

Try again.

ehlers is going nowhere

If you call White+Thomson+1st for Ehlers a massive overpayment, then yes.

I don't think anyone takes Zaitsev without getting those two seconds, and that leaves Sokolov for DeMelo, which can be replaced by Dillon for example.

I mean so was Chabot, White and Formenton, and they're still there. So I don't think that would be a factor. He had great chemistry with Chabot and the latter was playing his best hockey with Demelo, so I'm sure they'd want to bring him back

Replace him with Dillon then.

How would you know that the Sens are on Demelo's no-trade list since they aren't published to the public? Maybe he doesn't have Ottawa on it. AS for Ehlers, I think that is a fair value, since I would consider the 2 2nds are there to take on Zaitsev and White contracts, and Ehlers would cost 1st, Thomson and Sokolov.

For Dallas I would consider that trade I don’t have that same gut wrenching feeling of having to take a mid 30s guy. I don’t know about losing a first plus Dellandrea (2018 1st) being a lot to give up on a second pair guy (albeit a very versatile player). I also don’t know about needing to dump Faksa in the same deal but it’s a good start to negotiate from.

I think Dellandrea is close to NHL ready so that would actually help Winnipeg if the center depth drops off if they do sell off the vets and especially with PLD’s recent sentiment about UFA. They have to hope Perfetti is the real deal.

What about: Dellandrea, Gleason and Damiani (AHL rookie of the year in the 21’ season has good advanced stats but a bit undersized and has a bad year this year so he might not interest as much) for only Pionk nothing additional.

1. I made a series of posts in the forums where I guess the trade lists for every NHL player.

Make sure to check them out.



2. White can be bought out for next to nothing.



3. It should not cost two seconds to dump Zaitsev.

Also, we have never placed Zaitsev on waivers before and he has never played for Belleville.



4. If that is an overpayment on Fiala, it would be an overpayment on Ehlers as well.

Dubois ain't worth that much

As a Leaf fan....only player i want from the Jets is Hellebuyck....since you have issues with Wheeler,Dubois and Scheifele...you will need offense...will send ya Nylander, Sandin and a 1st round pick in 2022 for him

Moving Hellebuyck instantly means they're rebuilding, which also means that two years of Nylander is pretty useless for them. Also Sandin as a target is valuable, but WPG already has a LHD logjam.

The pieces offered here are valuable enough, but I question the fit.

then they can trade Willy elsewhere....either for picks or prospects

I think WPG would prefer leaving that for TOR. The thing is, Nylander's value is subject to regress after being traded from a contender to a rebuilder as there's not as much quality to produce with, and Nylander is more or less all offense kind of guy.

WPG would rather take prospects like Niemelä or Knies in return for Hellebuyck I'd wager.

Then maybe it's a 3 way deal...besides....who said anything about this being a rebuild for the Jets where it is torn right down......by acquiring Nylander they can replace a Wheeler....send him off to long island for the goalie being mentionsed....or the rumor about Dubois to Rangers....a package that includes Georgiev...

3-way trade might work. Doubt NYR is going to qualify Georgiev given their cap struggles.

Point is that the only reason for WPG to consider moving guys like Hellebuyck, Scheifele or Wheeler is because they want to rebulld/retool. Those two are PPG players and Hellebuyck is a top10 goalie, would make very little sense to move them for no other reason.

Well if they don't qualify him then you can sign a good goalie for cheaper than Hellebuyck....and get something else to replace Dubois with....point is you don't have to do a re-build...more of a re-tool like ya said and send out the pieces that seem to be trouble makers....and that's the 3 forwards. so one gets flipped somewhere for a goalie and the other 2 for either forwards or a D.....personally i think Sandin would be good add to this lineup considering what you have there now

I wouldn't call Georgiev a good goalie. 2G in a good tandem, tops.

The point in this post is the fact WPGs core has a problem - none of them is willing to stick around. And they're at downward trajectory too. Imo it would be a decent idea for them to start again from the scratch now and build for a better future, because where they are right now, they're getting nowhere.

oh i get your point on the fact they seem to be a dysfunctional team right now.......just don't think a tear down is needed and can flip the trouble players and still stay competitive....i used Georgiev only as an example as there is apparently a rumor Rangers might be interested in Dubois......sure you won't replace Hellebuyck but there are other names out there and i think a rebuild on the fly can be done....anyways good chatting with ya