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Team: 2022-23 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 29, 2022
Published: Jun. 29, 2022
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Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
7$9,000,000
2$1,400,000
4$2,500,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$2,000,000
1$750,000
1$750,000
1$750,000
Trades
1.
TOR
  1. Monahan, Sean
  2. Tkachuk, Matthew [RFA Rights]
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Flames move off of Monahan who has just 23 points in 65 games last year and is getting almost $7M. They pickup Robertson who is a likely top 6 LW for the next 5-8 years as well as a first. Muzzin balances the salaries and fills a gap at LD for Calgary. Anderson is cheap depth. This trade let's the resign Johnny and have money to retool in FA.
2.
TOR
  1. 2022 6th round pick (CHI)
  2. 2022 6th round pick (CBJ)
CHI
  1. Abruzzese, Nick
  2. Duszak, Joseph [RFA Rights]
  3. Mrázek, Petr
  4. 2022 3rd round pick (WPG)
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4.
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2022
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2023
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2024
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20$82,500,000$82,470,617$212,500$0$29,383
Left WingCentreRight Wing
$9,000,000$9,000,000
RW
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$11,640,250$11,640,250
C
UFA - 2
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$10,903,000$10,903,000
RW
UFA - 3
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$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 3
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$6,375,000$6,375,000
C, LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$6,962,366$6,962,366
RW
UFA - 2
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$950,000$950,000
LW
UFA - 1
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
C
UFA - 1
$2,500,000$2,500,000
RW
UFA - 1
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$837,500$837,500
C
RFA - 2
$750,000$750,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
$750,000$750,000
RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$7,500,000$7,500,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 8
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD/RD
NTC
UFA - 2
$2,000,000$2,000,000
G
UFA - 2
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$800,000$800,000
LD
UFA - 2
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$1,400,000$1,400,000
RD
RFA - 2
$750,000$750,000
G
UFA - 1
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$1,400,000$1,400,000
LD
UFA - 2
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$856,667$856,667
RD
RFA - 3

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Jun. 29, 2022 at 8:47 a.m.
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No from EDM.
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Jun. 29, 2022 at 8:48 a.m.
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Flames do not have a gap at LD
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Jun. 29, 2022 at 9:00 a.m.
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Incredibly lopsided and shows very little understanding of Calgary's current roster and/or needs
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Jun. 29, 2022 at 9:08 a.m.
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Incredibly lopsided and shows very little understanding of Calgary's current roster and/or needs


It's definitely clear this guy is playing too many video games
Jun. 29, 2022 at 9:08 a.m.
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Edited Jun. 29, 2022 at 9:37 a.m.
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Flames do not have a gap at LD


Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Incredibly lopsided and shows very little understanding of Calgary's current roster and/or needs


In addition to what was mentioned above, Monahan can simply be bought out and CGY wouldn't want Muzzin's hit since they still need to sign Gaudreau, Mangiapane, Kylington (it was suggested that he could get moved to save money). The return has the making of a lackluster trade instead of a blockbuster since Muzzin is probably close to being on his last leg and doesn't add much more value to their defence.

From the Leafs perspective, they can't afford Tkachuk alone if he wants 9m, nor a Tkachuk+a Monahan buyout, and certainly not both. Which is why you are probably forcing Niemela in before he is ready (he might be but you can't assume that prior to camp) and the suspect goaltending, and the Myers buyout for cap.

Generally speaking, buying out Myers for 600k plus to take the same hit next year doesn't make much sense but the fact that your team would need that before TDL additions shows that this trade is problematic from a salary perspective for the Leafs.
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Jun. 29, 2022 at 9:10 a.m.
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It's definitely clear this guy is playing too many video games


That trade doesn't go through on easy trade difficulty unless it's an older game if he was on Toronto's side.
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Jun. 29, 2022 at 9:17 a.m.
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the leafs could literally offer their 3 best prospects (knies, niemela, robertson) + their 1st and it STILL wouldn’t get tkachuk lol, and muzzin is a huge risk at this point (big contract, many injuries, not to mention calgary is set at LD right now and likely for the next decade in all honesty)
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Jun. 29, 2022 at 9:21 a.m.
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the leafs could literally offer their 3 best prospects (knies, niemela, robertson) + their 1st and it STILL wouldn’t get tkachuk lol, and muzzin is a huge risk at this point (big contract, many injuries, not to mention calgary is set at LD right now and likely for the next decade in all honesty)


Knies+Niemela+Robertson+ a 1st for Tkachuk would probably go through if they are confident that at least one would turn out to be a star since that's essentially getting 4 firsts (the compensation for the higher bracket) and they wouldn't have to cap crunch.
Jun. 29, 2022 at 9:56 a.m.
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Flames laugh at that
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Jun. 29, 2022 at 10:15 a.m.
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In addition to what was mentioned above, Monahan can simply be bought out and CGY wouldn't want Muzzin's hit since they still need to sign Gaudreau, Mangiapane, Kylington (it was suggested that he could get moved to save money). The return has the making of a lackluster trade instead of a blockbuster since Muzzin is probably close to being on his last leg and doesn't add much more value to their defence.

From the Leafs perspective, they can't afford Tkachuk alone if he wants 9m, nor a Tkachuk+a Monahan buyout, and certainly not both. Which is why you are probably forcing Niemela in before he is ready (he might be but you can't assume that prior to camp) and the suspect goaltending, and the Myers buyout for cap.

Generally speaking, buying out Myers for 600k plus to take the same hit next year doesn't make much sense but the fact that your team would need that before TDL additions shows that this trade is problematic from a salary perspective for the Leafs.


I find it really funny that those of us who work in the industry get hated on so much for our ideas then when trades like Kapanen, Kadri, Keith, Leddy happen everyone here gets mad at the GMs and says the GMs are wrong instead of realizing you all like in a fairytale world. The real people make trades that neither side is sure are going to work cause if you knew you would win then the other guy is sure he will lose.

Muzzin has value, Kerfoot has tremendous value, he was seen as almost equivalent to Kadri a few years ago and many still see him as a younger Kadri. Robertson is viewed as a top prospects arguable a top 10 player not in the NHL and will be traded or on the Leafs.

Tkachuk is viewed as a problem by Calgary management and don't be surprised if he is traded for significantly less than you feel he is worth. Johnny is someone they really want to keep.
Jun. 29, 2022 at 10:32 a.m.
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I find it really funny that those of us who work in the industry get hated on so much for our ideas then when trades like Kapanen, Kadri, Keith, Leddy happen everyone here gets mad at the GMs and says the GMs are wrong instead of realizing you all like in a fairytale world. The real people make trades that neither side is sure are going to work cause if you knew you would win then the other guy is sure he will lose.

Muzzin has value, Kerfoot has tremendous value, he was seen as almost equivalent to Kadri a few years ago and many still see him as a younger Kadri. Robertson is viewed as a top prospects arguable a top 10 player not in the NHL and will be traded or on the Leafs.

Tkachuk is viewed as a problem by Calgary management and don't be surprised if he is traded for significantly less than you feel he is worth. Johnny is someone they really want to keep.


If he gets traded you are right in that the return won't be for a 100pt player (since he's only done it once in a year that there are 50 or more 30+ goal scorers and the reason for CGY to trade him), but I don't think you got the right match in terms of a team who would pay Tkachuk 9m (at least now) or the pieces going back to CGY unless you know something about Treliving wanting Muzzin (assuming he would waive for them)?

Perhaps if Tkachuk signed 7mx2 and got exchanged for Nylander, or was willing to sign long-term for 8m or less and the flames were interested in futures+kerfoot+holl for the cap if that even work.
Jun. 29, 2022 at 10:35 a.m.
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Muzzin has value, Kerfoot has tremendous value, he was seen as almost equivalent to Kadri a few years ago and many still see him as a younger Kadri. Robertson is viewed as a top prospects arguable a top 10 player not in the NHL and will be traded or on the Leafs.


Those latter two are some BOLD claims grimace Clearly no bias here, folks.
Jun. 29, 2022 at 10:37 a.m.
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I find it really funny that those of us who work in the industry get hated on so much for our ideas then when trades like Kapanen, Kadri, Keith, Leddy happen everyone here gets mad at the GMs and says the GMs are wrong instead of realizing you all like in a fairytale world. The real people make trades that neither side is sure are going to work cause if you knew you would win then the other guy is sure he will lose.

Muzzin has value, Kerfoot has tremendous value, he was seen as almost equivalent to Kadri a few years ago and many still see him as a younger Kadri. Robertson is viewed as a top prospects arguable a top 10 player not in the NHL and will be traded or on the Leafs.

Tkachuk is viewed as a problem by Calgary management and don't be surprised if he is traded for significantly less than you feel he is worth. Johnny is someone they really want to keep.


This entire statement is pure bias.

Tkachuk is in no way whatsoever viewed as a "problem." Whoever told you that has <70 IQ.

Robertson is a decent prospect but has injury issues. He is far from top 10 though, he was ranked 46th on the most recent credible prospect rankings.

Nobody has ever viewed Kerfoot as an equivalent to Kadri, they aren't even remotely similar. One of the is a fast middle 6 C/W, the other is a top 6 power forward center. He has decent value but at 1 year remaining definitely not tremendous.

Muzzin has injury issues and a full NTC until next summer, regardless of him still being a capable player the likelihood he is traded is next to zero
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Jun. 29, 2022 at 10:50 a.m.
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Nobody has ever viewed Kerfoot as an equivalent to Kadri, they aren't even remotely similar. One of the is a fast middle 6 C/W, the other is a top 6 power forward center. He has decent value but at 1 year remaining definitely not tremendous.


Even when the trade occured , the most valuable player was Kadri, a 2C who emerged as a shutdown center (Tor would use him against McDavid who never scored a goal in Toronto until the one where he embarrassed MR44 and sniped Andersen) with scoring upside. Then Barrie who was a RHD OFD that was a great PP QB but only with a year left (Colorado didn't want to pay up and sign him since they had Byram in the system), Kerfoot was a solid 3C who with offensive upside who also needed an extension as well that had the potential to grow into the player Kadri became, and Calle Rosen was just a puck moving prospect with little value (guessing they took him on the off chance that he turns into Barrie) and likely there just so that it was 2 contracts for 2

Nazem Kadri · $4,500,000
Calle Rosén · $750,000
2020 3rd round pick (TOR - #75 - Jean-Luc Foudy)
Sum: $5,250,000
Change: +$2,500,000

Toronto Maple Leafs Acquire:

Tyson Barrie ($2,750,000 retained - 50%) · $2,750,000
Alexander Kerfoot · $0 (Signing Rights)
2020 6th round pick (COL - #180 - Joe Miller)
Sum: $2,750,000
Change: -$2,500,000

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Jun. 29, 2022 at 11:02 a.m.
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Even when the trade occured , the most valuable player was Kadri, a 2C who emerged as a shutdown center (Tor would use him against McDavid who never scored a goal in Toronto until the one where he embarrassed MR44 and sniped Andersen) with scoring upside. Then Barrie who was a RHD OFD that was a great PP QB but only with a year left (Colorado didn't want to pay up and sign him since they had Byram in the system), Kerfoot was a solid 3C who with offensive upside who also needed an extension as well that had the potential to grow into the player Kadri became, and Calle Rosen was just a puck moving prospect with little value (guessing they took him on the off chance that he turns into Barrie) and likely there just so that it was 2 contracts for 2

Nazem Kadri · $4,500,000
Calle Rosén · $750,000
2020 3rd round pick (TOR - #75 - Jean-Luc Foudy)
Sum: $5,250,000
Change: +$2,500,000

Toronto Maple Leafs Acquire:

Tyson Barrie ($2,750,000 retained - 50%) · $2,750,000
Alexander Kerfoot · $0 (Signing Rights)
2020 6th round pick (COL - #180 - Joe Miller)
Sum: $2,750,000
Change: -$2,500,000

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Are you arguing with me or providing more context? I can't tell
Jun. 29, 2022 at 11:08 a.m.
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Are you arguing with me or providing more context? I can't tell


More context, haha my bad. Should have made mention of that or said in addition or something.
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Jun. 29, 2022 at 11:15 a.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
This entire statement is pure bias.

Tkachuk is in no way whatsoever viewed as a "problem." Whoever told you that has <70 IQ.

Robertson is a decent prospect but has injury issues. He is far from top 10 though, he was ranked 46th on the most recent credible prospect rankings.

Nobody has ever viewed Kerfoot as an equivalent to Kadri, they aren't even remotely similar. One of the is a fast middle 6 C/W, the other is a top 6 power forward center. He has decent value but at 1 year remaining definitely not tremendous.

Muzzin has injury issues and a full NTC until next summer, regardless of him still being a capable player the likelihood he is traded is next to zero


When Kadri was traded he was a 3C who was regressing and viewed as a liability to his team.

Kerfoot was viewed as a 3C who was worse but younger, cheaper with the same upside without the risks.

You really think the Leafs added a pick and prospect to that trade cause they thought they were trading a top player for one year of Barrie. Kerfoot was the main piece back, Barrie was a rental.
Jun. 29, 2022 at 11:36 a.m.
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When Kadri was traded he was a 3C who was regressing and viewed as a liability to his team.

Kerfoot was viewed as a 3C who was worse but younger, cheaper with the same upside without the risks.

You really think the Leafs added a pick and prospect to that trade cause they thought they were trading a top player for one year of Barrie. Kerfoot was the main piece back, Barrie was a rental.


Kadri was a 2C that was pushed down to 3C because of Tavares, saying he is a 3C is fundamentally false.
Jun. 29, 2022 at 12:29 p.m.
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Knies+Niemela+Robertson+ a 1st for Tkachuk would probably go through if they are confident that at least one would turn out to be a star since that's essentially getting 4 firsts (the compensation for the higher bracket) and they wouldn't have to cap crunch.

Calling that 4 1sts is a MASSIVE stretch when zero of those 3 prospects were picked in the 1st lol, and that was my point anyway, the Leafs can’t put together a package better than the 4 1sts that would be required to offer sheet Tkachuk (not to mention you’d still have to pay him probably 12mil on a 7 year deal for Calgary to not match the offer sheet). None of those guys project as stars, they just look like they could all be NHL contributors (if you got two middle six wingers and a 2RD out of it you’d be cheering based on their draft slots, but that’s not starpower, and not enough for Tkachuk). I like Knies and Niemela as prospects (not as big of a fan of Robertson personally), but they’re not high end prospects. They’d go higher than they did in a re-draft maybe, but none of them are full-time NHLers and 2 of them have yet to play a professional game in North America. The point here is that the Leafs can’t afford to offer sheet Tkachuk at a number that would be uncomfortable for the Flames, and can’t offer a good enough package to convince the Flames to move him.
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I find it really funny that those of us who work in the industry get hated on so much for our ideas then when trades like Kapanen, Kadri, Keith, Leddy happen everyone here gets mad at the GMs and says the GMs are wrong instead of realizing you all like in a fairytale world. The real people make trades that neither side is sure are going to work cause if you knew you would win then the other guy is sure he will lose.

Muzzin has value, Kerfoot has tremendous value, he was seen as almost equivalent to Kadri a few years ago and many still see him as a younger Kadri. Robertson is viewed as a top prospects arguable a top 10 player not in the NHL and will be traded or on the Leafs.

Tkachuk is viewed as a problem by Calgary management and don't be surprised if he is traded for significantly less than you feel he is worth. Johnny is someone they really want to keep.

The only sentence in those last two paragraphs that isn’t objectively false is that Johnny is someone the Flames management wants to keep lol
Jun. 29, 2022 at 12:56 p.m.
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Calling that 4 1sts is a MASSIVE stretch when zero of those 3 prospects were picked in the 1st lol, and that was my point anyway, the Leafs can’t put together a package better than the 4 1sts that would be required to offer sheet Tkachuk (not to mention you’d still have to pay him probably 12mil on a 7 year deal for Calgary to not match the offer sheet). None of those guys project as stars, they just look like they could all be NHL contributors (if you got two middle six wingers and a 2RD out of it you’d be cheering based on their draft slots, but that’s not starpower, and not enough for Tkachuk). I like Knies and Niemela as prospects (not as big of a fan of Robertson personally), but they’re not high end prospects. They’d go higher than they did in a re-draft maybe, but none of them are full-time NHLers and 2 of them have yet to play a professional game in North America. The point here is that the Leafs can’t afford to offer sheet Tkachuk at a number that would be uncomfortable for the Flames, and can’t offer a good enough package to convince the Flames to move him.

The only sentence in those last two paragraphs that isn’t objectively false is that Johnny is someone the Flames management wants to keep lol


You sir win the award for least educated member of the site. CONGRATS!!!

https://thehockeywriters.com/nhl-top-100-prospects-ranking/

All of those prospects were considered top 55 prospects league-wide in January and have only climbed since then, especially Knies. They are all more desirable than players ranked 6th or later in the 2022 draft. Any of them is worth more than a late first you'd get from an offer sheet. That package is 100% guaranteed to be worth more than Tkachuk.
Jun. 29, 2022 at 12:58 p.m.
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Kadri was a 2C that was pushed down to 3C because of Tavares, saying he is a 3C is fundamentally false.


His last year on the Leafs he put up 44 points that's less than Kerfoot did last year LOL
Jun. 29, 2022 at 1:00 p.m.
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Calling that 4 1sts is a MASSIVE stretch when zero of those 3 prospects were picked in the 1st lol, and that was my point anyway, the Leafs can’t put together a package better than the 4 1sts that would be required to offer sheet Tkachuk (not to mention you’d still have to pay him probably 12mil on a 7 year deal for Calgary to not match the offer sheet). project as stars, they just look like they could all be NHL contributors


Have a look at the prospect rankings in the post above.

Niemela is pretty high at 21 ahead of first rounders, Robertson is at 46 but he is kind of seeming like a bust. Knies isn't there, so I'll give you that even though he's probably ranked internally ahead of Robertson.

So it's like 3 firsts and a 3rd. Tkachuk is in the 2 1sts 2nd and 3rd bracket, if he was offered sheet it would be matched. I think both Knies and Robertson could end up being top 6 players but bot necessarily elite, Robertson might end up middle six likd you said. Niemela I expect to be a top 4 D at the least, I think the hope is that he would be a top 2 (might not be realistic but it's what the execs think of him that matters)

My point though is that no one is going to offer up 4 first for Tkachuk, they will offer something that has the value of the compensation package for a 9M player if he were to be offer sheeted, more or less. Generally speaking teams, won't be offering a package for a 100pt player (especially since he's only reached that mark once and the Flames would be moving him because of contract negotiations/cap related issues)

There might be a team out there that would offer 3 first equivalents (whether or not you think that Leafs package is at least that) with slightly more value than the Leafs though. It only takes one team.
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His last year on the Leafs he put up 44 points that's less than Kerfoot did last year LOL


Kadri on the Leafs would be used to shutdown McDavid, part of why it took him so long to score a goal in Toronto. Also you are picking on a down year, which explains why you value Tkachuk after his career high so much.
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Have a look at the prospect rankings in the post above.

Niemela is pretty high at 21 ahead of first rounders, Robertson is at 46 but he is kind of seeming like a bust. Knies isn't there, so I'll give you that even though he's probably ranked internally ahead of Robertson.

So it's like 3 firsts and a 3rd. Tkachuk is in the 2 1sts 2nd and 3rd bracket, if he was offered sheet it would be matched. I think both Knies and Robertson could end up being top 6 players but bot necessarily elite, Robertson might end up middle six likd you said. Niemela I expect to be a top 4 D at the least, I think the hope is that he would be a top 2 (might not be realistic but it's what the execs think of him that matters)

My point though is that no one is going to offer up 4 first for Tkachuk, they will offer something that has the value of the compensation package for a 9M player if he were to be offer sheeted, more or less. Generally speaking teams, won't be offering a package for a 100pt player (especially since he's only reached that mark once and the Flames would be moving him because of contract negotiations/cap related issues)

There might be a team out there that would offer 3 first equivalents (whether or not you think that Leafs package is at least that) with slightly more value than the Leafs though. It only takes one team.


Robertson is 20 and Knies is 54 are you blind?
Jun. 29, 2022 at 1:05 p.m.
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Have a look at the prospect rankings in the post above.

Niemela is pretty high at 21 ahead of first rounders, Robertson is at 46 but he is kind of seeming like a bust. Knies isn't there, so I'll give you that even though he's probably ranked internally ahead of Robertson.

So it's like 3 firsts and a 3rd. Tkachuk is in the 2 1sts 2nd and 3rd bracket, if he was offered sheet it would be matched. I think both Knies and Robertson could end up being top 6 players but bot necessarily elite, Robertson might end up middle six likd you said. Niemela I expect to be a top 4 D at the least, I think the hope is that he would be a top 2 (might not be realistic but it's what the execs think of him that matters)

My point though is that no one is going to offer up 4 first for Tkachuk, they will offer something that has the value of the compensation package for a 9M player if he were to be offer sheeted, more or less. Generally speaking teams, won't be offering a package for a 100pt player (especially since he's only reached that mark once and the Flames would be moving him because of contract negotiations/cap related issues)

There might be a team out there that would offer 3 first equivalents (whether or not you think that Leafs package is at least that) with slightly more value than the Leafs though. It only takes one team.


Most analysts see Knies as a first liner in a few years. Niemla will be a shock if he isn't a top 2 D. I agree Robertson likely ends up being a middle 6 guy, I see the potential but I'm not convinced either that it comes to fruition. Knies and NIemla for sure are great. I honestly think Niemla gets a look in the NHL next year at least a few games early in the season.
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