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Oilers 2022-23 Realistic for Holland

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Team: 2022-23 Edmonton Oilers
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 29, 2022
Published: Jun. 30, 2022
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As always, I try to think of the worst case/moderately favorable scenarios for trades/signings (the exception is the DeBrincat trade, I'm sure Chi fans wouldn't like the return but there's not set price on him). Any potential savings on signings would just be used for cap flexibility. Assuming that Smith does not retire this offseason.

2023-24 Cap changes:

Out - Kassian 3.2, Foegele 2.75, Barrie 4.5, Keith ~5.5, Smith 2.2, 2.25m Dead Cap = 20.4m
In - Debrincat 8.5, Strome 4.5, Lybushkin 2, Gagner 0.9, Comrie 2 = 17.9m

Net change: -2.5m

Goaltending plan:
The plan is to exercise patience, and see if Skinner and/or Comrie can have a breakout season. Smith will perhaps remain on the roster as a 3rd goalie, if he's not injured.

Perhaps Hellebuyck becomes available sometime in the following year, or in free agency 2 years at age 31. Carter Hart would also be up for an extension as an RFA.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
5$4,500,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$2,000,000
1$1,000,000
2$900,000
3$2,000,000
Trades
1.
EDM
  1. 2023 2nd round pick (DAL)
DAL
  1. Barrie, Tyson
Additional Details:
Trade based off this link. If Dallas doesn't retain Klingberg perhaps they could use Barrie.

If not then any team interested.
https://oilersnation.com/2022/06/23/how-the-edmonton-oilers-could-explore-a-tyson-barrie-or-zack-kassian-trade/
2.
EDM
  1. 2022 2nd round pick (CBJ)
Additional Details:
44th OV
CBJ
  1. Kassian, Zack
  2. 2022 1st round pick (EDM)
Additional Details:
Saw somewhere that CBJ might be interested in Kassian. The make up of the suggested trade is from the link below.

https://oilersnation.com/2022/06/23/how-the-edmonton-oilers-could-explore-a-tyson-barrie-or-zack-kassian-trade/
3.
EDM
  1. DeBrincat, Alex
  2. Strome, Dylan [RFA Rights]
Additional Details:
Ask on DeBrincat is apparently a high pick/picks and young players.
https://www.bleachernation.com/blackhawks/2022/06/28/what-were-hearing-about-the-alex-debrincat-trade-market/

Davidson grants Holland permission to negotiate new contracts with the two before a trade is finalized

DeBrincat extension 8.5x8 (He has 8th most goals in the NHL since joining the NHL 5 years ago, so he could get a lot more but I have him taking the Draisaitl contract despite AB12 having better stats than LD29, when the latter signed)

Strome gets signed for 4.5m x5 (similar AAV to Sam Bennett contract and Ryan Strome's expiring contract, more term since he's bound to get a large payday playing on the Erie Otters line)
CHI
  1. Foegele, Warren
  2. Petrov, Matvei
  3. Puljujärvi, Jesse [RFA Rights]
  4. Yamamoto, Kailer [RFA Rights]
  5. 2023 1st round pick (EDM)
  6. 2023 2nd round pick (DAL)
  7. 2023 2nd round pick (EDM)
  8. 2024 1st round pick (EDM)
Additional Details:
YM, JP, 2023 1st, 2024 1st, 2023 2nd (Dal), 2023 2nd (Edm) for DeBrincat

Petrov for Strome's rights since he's probably not getting qualified (he seems to have a similar skill set as DeBrincat
https://www.eliteprospects.com/player/527464/matvei-petrov)
Foegele is a throw in for cap reasons mostly

Based off a mock trade on here that had DeBrincat go for Holloway+Puljujarvi+Foegele+ 2023 1st and 2nd

With the addition of Strome, the Oilers would have a challenge with signing Yamamoto and/or Puljujarvi. So instead of Holloway, I added Yamamoto+2024 1st+ second 2023 2nd.

Quantity over quality might be the unravelling of this trade, however, the 2023 1st rounder would only be top 3 protected while the 2024 1st round unprotected)
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2022
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2023
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2024
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
21$82,500,000$81,077,795$896,000$2,377,500$1,422,205
Left WingCentreRight Wing
$4,500,000$4,500,000
C
UFA - 1
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$12,500,000$12,500,000
C
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Chicago Blackhawks
$6,400,000$6,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$5,125,000$5,125,000
LW, C
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$8,500,000$8,500,000
C, LW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$850,000$850,000
LW, C, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$177,500$178K)
RW
RFA - 3
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$500,000$500K)
LW, C
RFA - 2
$1,000,000$1,000,000
LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$1,250,000$1,250,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
$900,000$900,000
RW, C
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$9,250,000$9,250,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 8
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RD
RFA - 1
$2,000,000$2,000,000
G
UFA - 2
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LD
RFA - 2
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$3,250,000$3,250,000
RD
UFA - 3
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$750,000$750,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$5,538,462$5,538,462
LD
NMC
UFA - 1
$2,000,000$2,000,000
RD
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$925,000$925,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$2,200,000$2,200,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$4,167,000$4,167,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 1

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Jun. 30, 2022 at 10:35 a.m.
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Team looks pretty stacked but man that goaltending is so iffy. It's like the most meh tandem in last 10 years.
Jun. 30, 2022 at 10:40 a.m.
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Team looks pretty stacked but man that goaltending is so iffy. It's like the most meh tandem in last 10 years.


Yeah, but with Holland not seeming too keen on making a trade for one, I figured the only option would be Husso with the cap available (if Smith doesn't retire), and I'm guessing he goes to another team. I think the Oilers would be able to land Campbell if they had the cap (in this scenario but with Smith retiring) but unless he's coming in closer to 4m with term, might be tight for the next couple of years depending on Bouchard and Skinner extensions.

So, if they were to stack the forwards, I wouldn't be surprised for them to get potentially mediocre goaltending.
Jun. 30, 2022 at 10:43 a.m.
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Yeah, but with Holland not seeming too keen on making a trade for one, I figured the only option would be Husso with the cap available (if Smith doesn't retire), and I'm guessing he goes to another team. I think the Oilers would be able to land Campbell if they had the cap (in this scenario but with Smith retiring) but unless he's coming in closer to 4m with term, might be tight for the next couple of years.


I think he will address the issue if Smith retires. I mean he can't afford not to, since he perceives EDM to be a contender and they can't contend without a goalie.

If he can't land a goalie from free agency, he'll trade for one. It's probably not going to be the greatest guy in the market, but a serviceable tandem guy with Skinner. Vanecek or Driedger are first that come to mind (although the massive injury the latter sustained in the world championships will keep him out for a while)
Jun. 30, 2022 at 10:46 a.m.
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Jun. 30, 2022 at 10:54 a.m.
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I think he will address the issue if Smith retires. I mean he can't afford not to, since he perceives EDM to be a contender and they can't contend without a goalie.

If he can't land a goalie from free agency, he'll trade for one. It's probably not going to be the greatest guy in the market, but a serviceable tandem guy with Skinner. Vanecek or Driedger are first that come to mind (although the massive injury the latter sustained in the world championships will keep him out for a while)


Yeah, it all comes down to Smith retiring.

Yeah, a break out candidate like Vanecek (I think some expect Comrie to be one too so I just picked him as a local kid) or someone who has shown that they can be a starter in a short amount of time that costs ~3.5m like Driedger (perhaps Husso but I feel like the Oilers won't be front runners).

It's probably the safer bet too, just in case Skinner does break out, if they can get him at a bridge deal in the 3s, they would have 6-7m in goaltending which might be a bit much for this team, but that beats 8m+ if they were to sign a guy for 5m x 5.
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Jun. 30, 2022 at 10:59 a.m.
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Probably, the packaged isn't great, went more for quantity over quality.

I wanted to see more if they Oilers could fit them under the cap, and kind of needed to keep Holloway and Broberg's ELCs for that, if not I would have had to make more trades but didn't want to do more work. I think the Oilers do have the pieces to land DeBrincat, but I just arranged things in a way that is convenient for me to sort of see the bigger picture.

Depending on what they do for goaltending and if Smith retires one of those ELCs could be replaced with a 1-2m guy.
Jun. 30, 2022 at 11:04 a.m.
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Probably, the packaged isn't great, went more for quantity over quality.

I wanted to see more if they Oilers could fit them under the cap, and kind of needed to keep Holloway and Broberg's ELCs for that, if not I would have had to make more trades but didn't want to do more work. I think the Oilers do have the pieces to land DeBrincat, but I just arranged things in a way that is convenient for me to sort of see the bigger picture.

Depending on what they do for goaltending and if Smith retires one of those ELCs could be replaced with a 1-2m guy.


Therein lies the problem for acquiring Cat; it will 100% take either Broberg or Holloway as the starting piece. Throw in JP or Yamamoto and the 2023 first and that will get the conversation going.
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Jun. 30, 2022 at 11:07 a.m.
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I think I would take it if I were CBJ and we were out of ideas on requiring grit/punches elsewhere. I think I'd also take it if we feel good about upgrading a pick at the cost of money, even if the team has already added toughness and meanness. It would theoretically allow us to keep a healthy scratch with the club and let a young kid have more stability. Maybe he's even sent to Cleveland to protect Johnson/Chinakov when they are down there.

Against certain teams CBJ were bullied and their skilled younger players didn't want to fight. Kassian changes that mold and I don' think you feel bad about scratching him considering we upgraded an asset to get him. I am not sure CBJ ownership want to take on dead contracts considering the money lost from COVID, but it's possible this past season has improved the books.

Moving that pick up into the 1st could be great if it yields us someone like Ohgren, Miroschichenko, Bichsel, Trikozov or Owen Beck.
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Jun. 30, 2022 at 11:36 a.m.
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Therein lies the problem for acquiring Cat; it will 100% take either Broberg or Holloway as the starting piece. Throw in JP or Yamamoto and the 2023 first and that will get the conversation going.


Yeah, I figured that it would but just didn't want to do the extra work of finding someone that the Oilers could use in the bottom 6 and trading Yamamoto or JP to another place. Not a fan of the Oilers, so I don't know what other prospects that can potentially make the jump to the NHL along with Holloway. I think the mock draft that I molded mine off is pretty spot on.

I could see something like Holloway/Broberg + Puljujarvi/Yamamoto + Foegele+ 2023 1st + 2024 2nd conditional (upgrades to a 1st if Oilers win the cup in 2022-23 or 23-24)
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Jun. 30, 2022 at 12:01 p.m.
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I think I would take it if I were CBJ and we were out of ideas on requiring grit/punches elsewhere. I think I'd also take it if we feel good about upgrading a pick at the cost of money, even if the team has already added toughness and meanness. It would theoretically allow us to keep a healthy scratch with the club and let a young kid have more stability. Maybe he's even sent to Cleveland to protect Johnson/Chinakov when they are down there.

Against certain teams CBJ were bullied and their skilled younger players didn't want to fight. Kassian changes that mold and I don' think you feel bad about scratching him considering we upgraded an asset to get him. I am not sure CBJ ownership want to take on dead contracts considering the money lost from COVID, but it's possible this past season has improved the books.

Moving that pick up into the 1st could be great if it yields us someone like Ohgren, Miroschichenko, Bichsel, Trikozov or Owen Beck.

I wouldn't. The upgrade is not good enough to justify it IMO - Edmonton's 1st is towards the end of the round and our 2nd is in the upper half of that round.
Jun. 30, 2022 at 12:33 p.m.
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I wouldn't. The upgrade is not good enough to justify it IMO - Edmonton's 1st is towards the end of the round and our 2nd is in the upper half of that round.


Yeah, the Oilers would probably have to add another pick to balance it out.
Jun. 30, 2022 at 5:28 p.m.
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Therein lies the problem for acquiring Cat; it will 100% take either Broberg or Holloway as the starting piece. Throw in JP or Yamamoto and the 2023 first and that will get the conversation going.


The only thing I could really think of is possibly flipping Either Pulju, Yams, or both at the deadline to net Chicago more pieces for the rebuild? Especially if they are really committing to it, theres some long term strategy involved here.
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I would strongy consider resigning Kulak instead of Lyubushkin, and my man forgot about McLeod
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Jun. 30, 2022 at 5:40 p.m.
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I would strongy consider resigning Kulak instead of Lyubushkin, and my man forgot about McLeod


Yikes, yeah I didn't really look into the RFAs too much and forgot about him was too busy thinking of the trade lol. I did think about Kulak but I think he might cost them 2.5-2.8m, it's a move that they could do. I just put in Lybushkin because I assumed he might take less, and didn't want to think too much about what a fair Kulak signing would be and not sure Lybushkin even takes 2. Let's just say McLeod was offer sheeted? Lol. Pretty much foils the whole idea if he's going to cost over 2m.
Jun. 30, 2022 at 5:46 p.m.
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Yikes, yeah I didn't really look into the RFAs too much and forgot about him was too busy thinking of the trade lol. I did think about Kulak but I think he might cost them 2.5-2.8m, it's a move that they could do. I just put in Lybushkin because I assumed he might take less, and didn't want to think too much about what a fair Kulak signing would be and not sure Lybushkin even takes 2. Let's just say McLeod was offer sheeted? Lol. Pretty much foils the whole idea if he's going to cost over 2m.


I only noticed because im super high on him, as in i would sign him 8x3m in a heartbeat lol
Jun. 30, 2022 at 5:47 p.m.
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The only thing I could really think of is possibly flipping Either Pulju, Yams, or both at the deadline to net Chicago more pieces for the rebuild? Especially if they are really committing to it, theres some long term strategy involved here.


Even then though they would want a top prospect, if they were offered something like this perhaps they would go for quantity, but only if they think they could be part of the team long-term, hoping to be able to flip them at the deadline without a top prospect coming in would be kind of silly. I'm sure if they got the package in the mock trade that I based this off they would be open to flipping JP but that wouldnt be the main intent.
Jun. 30, 2022 at 5:52 p.m.
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I only noticed because im super high on him, as in i would sign him 8x3m in a heartbeat lol


I like him for the Oilers too. I might make a pt 2 once things become a bit more clear, maybe after day 2 of FA if the goalie situation is determined. The real goal was to see if they can bring in Strome and DeBrincat. He is an offer sheet candidate along with JP and Yamamoto although I don't think anyone will.
 
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