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Team: 2022-23 Detroit Red Wings
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 30, 2022
Published: Jun. 30, 2022
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Jun. 30, 2022 at 7:43 p.m.
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swap Juolevi with a decent prospect
Jun. 30, 2022 at 7:48 p.m.
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swap Juolevi with a decent prospect


Detroit would be doing them a massive favor, plus they are in the same division so Det would want their spot essentially. Maybe they would take McDonagh at 5m +Killorn for Juolevi+another contract. I can see TB taking Juolevi since he used to be a highly touted prospect, so perhaps they can unlock his talents.
Jun. 30, 2022 at 7:50 p.m.
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These long-term signings (other than Campbell) don't make much sense for Detroit, with all their prospects. If they go for it it would be by getting good players who are rentals, in case they miss, as their division is stacked. They can just liquidate them.
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Jun. 30, 2022 at 7:52 p.m.
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McD is now in dump status after reports. TB needs to move him to keep Palat and Paul, and maybe Kilorn. Too many assets for a mid 30s D at 5 million plus. For McD, you need a broker to eat half the salary.

Too much change on D. No way Dumba to Detroit after the Raymond incident. Zadorov is fine.

Strome is probably getting more or staying put. Fine with this signing. Campbell maybe, but term is too long.
Jun. 30, 2022 at 7:57 p.m.
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Quoting: tonyhzs
McD is now in dump status after reports. TB needs to move him to keep Palat and Paul, and maybe Kilorn. Too many assets for a mid 30s D at 5 million plus. For McD, you need a broker to eat half the salary.

Too much change on D. No way Dumbarton to Detroit after the Raymond incident. Zadorov is fine.

Strome is probably getting more or staying put. Fine with this signing.


I don't think Tampa has the picks to get someone to retain have his cap for 4 years. They will likely have to retain 2 to 2.75m of his cap themselves + and use Killorn as a sweetner (but also a cap dump for them to retain Palat+Paul and extend Serge next year) and get some cost controlled assets back that can potentially be useful but aren't necessarily valuable. Perhaps they can land Zadina+Juolevi for that package and some late picks.
Jun. 30, 2022 at 8:25 p.m.
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I don't think Tampa has the picks to get someone to retain have his cap for 4 years. They will likely have to retain 2 to 2.75m of his cap themselves + and use Killorn as a sweetner (but also a cap dump for them to retain Palat+Paul and extend Serge next year) and get some cost controlled assets back that can potentially be useful but aren't necessarily valuable. Perhaps they can land Zadina+Juolevi for that package and some late picks.


Tampa would never retain or ask a 3rd team to retain at 4 years. They won't be adding Killorn either, how terrible. If they move them, it will be for decent value in separate deals. Neither of them will likely have Detroit as a trade spot anyway. Tampa is in far less cap trouble this offseason than ppl seem to think.
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Jun. 30, 2022 at 8:30 p.m.
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McD is now in dump status after reports. TB needs to move him to keep Palat and Paul, and maybe Kilorn. Too many assets for a mid 30s D at 5 million plus. For McD, you need a broker to eat half the salary.

Too much change on D. No way Dumba to Detroit after the Raymond incident. Zadorov is fine.

Strome is probably getting more or staying put. Fine with this signing. Campbell maybe, but term is too long.


McD is far from a cap dump, nor do they have to move him now, as moving Killorn should likely let them keep Palat+Paul. Most thought McD would play 1 more year in Tampa, then be moved, but if Brisebois can get good value for him now it makes keeping everyone else they want to keep this year and next(plus likely adding a little more depth) all the easier. No one is eating almost 3.4 million for 4 years. McD is still a top 4 quality dman on 80% or more ofvthe teams in the league, he's far from a cap dump.
Jun. 30, 2022 at 8:37 p.m.
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Tampa would never retain or ask a 3rd team to retain at 4 years. They won't be adding Killorn either, how terrible. If they move them, it will be for decent value in separate deals. Neither of them will likely have Detroit as a trade spot anyway. Tampa is in far less cap trouble this offseason than ppl seem to think.


I know Brisebois wouldn't do it and that trade is exaggerated but I doubt they find a match where they get conventional value back since they won't be retaining and McDonagh might have a very short list of where he would go.
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Jun. 30, 2022 at 9:00 p.m.
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McD is far from a cap dump, nor do they have to move him now, as moving Killorn should likely let them keep Palat+Paul. Most thought McD would play 1 more year in Tampa, then be moved, but if Brisebois can get good value for him now it makes keeping everyone else they want to keep this year and next(plus likely adding a little more depth) all the easier. No one is eating almost 3.4 million for 4 years. McD is still a top 4 quality dman on 80% or more ofvthe teams in the league, he's far from a cap dump.


That is a fair assessment except it is now leaked that Tampa wants to move McD. He's what, 34? Yes he is still top 4, but he just nerfed his thumb. When does the rapid decline begin? Whoever gets McD probably gets a top 4 this year. After...who knows? The style he plays is not conducive to being top 4 in their 30s.
Jun. 30, 2022 at 9:04 p.m.
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Thankfully you aren't the wings gm, wings pass on every single move here
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Jun. 30, 2022 at 10:19 p.m.
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That is a fair assessment except it is now leaked that Tampa wants to move McD. He's what, 34? Yes he is still top 4, but he just nerfed his thumb. When does the rapid decline begin? Whoever gets McD probably gets a top 4 this year. After...who knows? The style he plays is not conducive to being top 4 in their 30s.


McD just turned 33. The last year of his deal will be at 36. While there is some risk involved that last year(maybe part of the 2nd to last year), he hasn't shown any indication of sharp decline. Tampa has only asked McD for a list of possible destinations, not that a trade is a lock. Tampa isn't forced to move him right now, and thus won't get fleeced because of it. I'm sure he won't return quite as much as he could because of the more limited trade destinations(if any), but Tampa won't be adding quality assets to move him.
Jun. 30, 2022 at 10:49 p.m.
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McD just turned 33. The last year of his deal will be at 36. While there is some risk involved that last year(maybe part of the 2nd to last year), he hasn't shown any indication of sharp decline. Tampa has only asked McD for a list of possible destinations, not that a trade is a lock. Tampa isn't forced to move him right now, and thus won't get fleeced because of it. I'm sure he won't return quite as much as he could because of the more limited trade destinations(if any), but Tampa won't be adding quality assets to move him.


Strong disagree. TB is sort of desperate to unload. They don't want to, but they have to. There is at least 3 teams NEEDING to unload salary (even when still good) . McD will cost assests. So much uncertainty in the 30s.
Jul. 1, 2022 at 12:19 a.m.
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Strong disagree. TB is sort of desperate to unload. They don't want to, but they have to. There is at least 3 teams NEEDING to unload salary (even when still good) . McD will cost assests. So much uncertainty in the 30s.


No, he won't. Tampa also doesn't have to move him right now, so if the fit doesn't work for JBB and Tampa, he'll stay for.another year. He has shown no signs of serious decline, still is a #2 or #3 on many teams, and could even be argued as a #1 on some. Tampa isn't being put in a position where if they don't move him now, they have no avenue to being cap compliant. JBB is a good GM and won't be attaching assets to move someone with positive value like McD. You don't know Yampa's cap situation very well if you think otherwise.
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No, he won't. Tampa also doesn't have to move him right now, so if the fit doesn't work for JBB and Tampa, he'll stay for.another year. He has shown no signs of serious decline, still is a #2 or #3 on many teams, and could even be argued as a #1 on some. Tampa isn't being put in a position where if they don't move him now, they have no avenue to being cap compliant. JBB is a good GM and won't be attaching assets to move someone with positive value like McD. You don't know Yampa's cap situation very well if you think otherwise.


Except for the verified reports that Tampa has asked McD about him moving and waiving his trade protection. TB will lose one of Palat or Paul, or both.

You are correct, McD is easily a top 3 on most teams at this moment. Problem is, his style of play tends to lend itself to a lack of late career durability and sharp declines as he ages. Lidstrom aged like a fine wine, but he is the exception to the rule. Almost 7 million against the cap for 3 (?) More years, at this age, is not favorable. McD has already started the decline, as 2 years ago, I would have slotted him 1 or 2 on about 25 teams in the league. That is not at all saying he is bad, just that the cap hit can become an albatross REALLY quick. I'd liken McD to Ktonwall, who went from debatable 1D on most teams to ok bottom 2 within 2 seasons.
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Jul. 1, 2022 at 11:08 a.m.
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No, he won't. Tampa also doesn't have to move him right now, so if the fit doesn't work for JBB and Tampa, he'll stay for.another year. He has shown no signs of serious decline, still is a #2 or #3 on many teams, and could even be argued as a #1 on some. Tampa isn't being put in a position where if they don't move him now, they have no avenue to being cap compliant. JBB is a good GM and won't be attaching assets to move someone with positive value like McD. You don't know Yampa's cap situation very well if you think otherwise.


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Except for the verified reports that Tampa has asked McD about him moving and waiving his trade protection. TB will lose one of Palat or Paul, or both.

You are correct, McD is easily a top 3 on most teams at this moment. Problem is, his style of play tends to lend itself to a lack of late career durability and sharp declines as he ages. Lidstrom aged like a fine wine, but he is the exception to the rule. Almost 7 million against the cap for 3 (?) More years, at this age, is not favorable. McD has already started the decline, as 2 years ago, I would have slotted him 1 or 2 on about 25 teams in the league. That is not at all saying he is bad, just that the cap hit can become an albatross REALLY quick. I'd liken McD to Ktonwall, who went from debatable 1D on most teams to ok bottom 2 within 2 seasons.


It's quite possible that a team does think of this as an opportunity to add a good player just depends if he's willing to go to a team that can risk it. Looking at Detroit's situation they might be able to squeeze him in at little risk, because their prospects would need to be signed in the 3rd (Seider and Raymond) or 4th year of his contract, or after it expires. It depends heavily their plans for their players who are 25-27 (Larkin, Bertuzzi, Vrana, and Suter), if they plan to move at least two, they can afford McDonagh and to add a 5m starter, as they are 14m under the cap floor as of now, leaving 20m for Raymond and Seider.

They have 7 guys they can extend so they will have a really good idea on what moves would need to be made to add him in without risking cap problems.

JBB doesn't really have many assets left to attach anyways if anything he takes a combination of mid to late picks or a prospect like Juolevi and perhaps Zadina.

Buffalo is probably in a similar situation and they might want him to play with Power as they were after a top 4 D-man to play with him.
Jul. 1, 2022 at 1:46 p.m.
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Except for the verified reports that Tampa has asked McD about him moving and waiving his trade protection. TB will lose one of Palat or Paul, or both.

You are correct, McD is easily a top 3 on most teams at this moment. Problem is, his style of play tends to lend itself to a lack of late career durability and sharp declines as he ages. Lidstrom aged like a fine wine, but he is the exception to the rule. Almost 7 million against the cap for 3 (?) More years, at this age, is not favorable. McD has already started the decline, as 2 years ago, I would have slotted him 1 or 2 on about 25 teams in the league. That is not at all saying he is bad, just that the cap hit can become an albatross REALLY quick. I'd liken McD to Ktonwall, who went from debatable 1D on most teams to ok bottom 2 within 2 seasons.


Tampa already signed Paul, and if nothing can be worked out reasonably with McD, Killorn will very likely get moved in order to keep Palat and maybe Rutta.
Jul. 1, 2022 at 2:25 p.m.
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Tampa already signed Paul, and if nothing can be worked out reasonably with McD, Killorn will very likely get moved in order to keep Palat and maybe Rutta.


I see Paul just signed to a very fair 3 million for 7 years. Not sure how this plays out. Killorn is the easy trade, but I'm not sure if moving out Killorn is enough. It just got much harder to keep Palat or move McDonaugh.
Jul. 1, 2022 at 6:12 p.m.
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I see Paul just signed to a very fair 3 million for 7 years. Not sure how this plays out. Killorn is the easy trade, but I'm not sure if moving out Killorn is enough. It just got much harder to keep Palat or move McDonaugh.


No, it really didn't. Palat has made it very clear he wants to stay in Tampa and Tampa has made it clear they want to keep him. Signing Paul has done nothing to change anything. Either McD will be traded for a cheaper roster player+pick/prospect, or if Killorn stays, McD would then get moved for just picks/prospects.
 
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