Problem is he’d only be a rental and then we couldn’t afford to resign him. We’d then be left looking for a 2C again except this time we won’t have Kakko or Lundkvist in the system to work with. Cap is an issue for the Rangers and one that’ll dictate their moves and success going forward.

I agree and I don't think all of these teams would want/accept these trades, NYR in particular just don't seem like they could make it work for the reason you said. Just continuing to beat the dead horse of tempering vancouver fans' expectations with potential returns from teams that are rumored to be interested

Given the return for Fiala, you're probably close on these trade return examples. The suitors for Miller could include some different teams than Fiala had though, as Miller could have a $2.625m cap hit this year if VAN retains 50%. But you'd think the teams that would pay a premium have an eye on extending him too.

To me Boston and Washington make a ton of sense with the Bergeron/Backstrom situations. Both are teams that won't be entering rebuilds anytime soon.

I would love for the Caps to get him

Toughest part about is so much money being tied up between Panarin, Mika, Kreider, Trouba, Goodrow, Fox and Shesty. It’s not that they are all absurdly overpaid it just makes it very challenging to improve the team and resign the younger players that will need to be paid.

I'd be surprised if we acquired Miller. Guerin's plan seems to be to build through the draft.

That might be the best fit for both sides. I'd love to see Miller feeding Ovi passes on the PP.

Minnesota declines. They aren't interested in JT Miller and won't pay that price. It's been made abundantly clear Guerin won't trade top prospects or 1st round pick for rentals

So, you're saying the return for Miller would be much greater than Fiala? I know he's a center and he's a good one. But he's one year from being a UFA and will be 30 soon which is 4 very productive years older than Fiala. If the Wild did have cap space the return would likely be the Canucks 2022 2nd round pick and either Khusnutdinov or the 19th pick. But given the cap issues Guerin would only entertain trading some of these picks for prospects or young affordable players. Otherwise he'll continue building his prospect pool which is already impressive not including picks 19, 24, 44 and 56.

While I agree much of Canucks Capfriedly overvalues him (ie. He's not worth Schneider, Laf, and a 1st), I think the Miller return will exceed Fiala for the following reasons:

1: He can switch seamlessly between wing and center and excels at either position.
2: He plays 5v5, PP, and PK, a valuable skillset in the league
3: His current caphit gives teams a year of breathing room to try to resign him instead of being forced to take on a larger caphit immediately (or hell, maybe they trade him at the deadline lol)

I think a trio of assets is a near guarantee for him, but what it will look like depends on who/what comes back. A 1st rd pick is an absolute, but the two other pieces, prospect and roster player will vary based on what the focal point is. Either a top end, grade A prospect and a mid-level young-ish roster player, or a budding star roster player (think Necas or Jarvis for example) and then a b-level prospect that might be a few years away.

I was disappointed when the NYR let J.T. go. Ditto Buchnevich, just when they were about , and for Blueshirt fans of a certain vintage Tony Amonte to the Hawks and I could go on, but I won't. That said, I complete with the opening remarks of HOCKEYBOY448.

My impression was that Khusnutdinov was a worse prospect than Faber at this point, and the Wild pick is later than the Kings one, so the second pick made up the difference to be around equal to Fiala -- not at all a prospect guy though so could definitely be wrong on that. Agree that MIN doesn't make the most sense as a landing spot, but they theoretically would be in on a top center that would be really cheap for one year.

I agree 100% on all of those points. The problem for Vancouver is that the NHL is not like the NBA or European soccer where a more valuable player will get you a more valuable return. Because NHL GMs are so risk averse and hugely overvalue future assets, the return on literally anyone is pretty much capped at a 1st + top prospect. Eichel, who was 23, locked in long term, and was at worst a top 15 center in the league at the time he got moved only returned a 1st, Peyton Krebs, and Tuch. There is a pretty hard cap on what guys return in the NHL, and Fiala hit it. I really don't think Miller will be the guy to finally break through that ceiling.

Khusnutdinov is literally two spots after Faber who is considered our new #4 prospect. Only separated by Addison according to Scott Wheeler of the Athletic.

For those asking, gun to my head without thinking about it too much:1. Rossi2. Wallstedt—3. Lambos4. Faber5. Addison—6. Khusnutdinov7. Peart8. O’Rourke9. Beckman10. Hunt

— Scott Wheeler (@scottcwheeler) June 29, 2022

That's a fair point on Eichel, but I'd say heath concerns lowered the return. Then on the other side, Tuch is a top-line winger and Krebs is a grade-A prospect. When dealing with someone that's not Eichel one of those two assets would be worse.