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Created by: WJV5

Team: 2022-23 Vegas Golden Knights

Initial Creation Date: Jul. 2, 2022

Published: Jul. 2, 2022

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

New Coach, new Era.

Let me explain my trades before yall blow me up on them

Assuming Klingberg is gone, Dallas needs a top line defensemen, Vegas needs wing depth and cap space

Lehner will probably ask for a trade, and Hart’s rep in Philly seems to be dropping. Change of scenery should help both teams and netminders. Throw in the first cause of Hart’s age and ceiling

Pacioretty to replace Nino in Carolina, the 2 and 3 is for patches, Gardiner is to match salary

Kravstov for talent development and scoring depth

Patrick and Hutton could go anywhere, I just chose the rangers cause of the FA’s they have

Edmonton takes Gardiner should they get rid of Duncan Keith or should he retire

If y’all think compensation is off lmk, I don’t think I’m too far off

Free Agent Signings

RFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Howden, Brett	2	$950,000
Roy, Nicolas	3	$3,000,000
Hague, Nicolas	3	$1,500,000

UFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Smith, Reilly	3	$5,000,000
De Haan, Calvin	2	$1,900,000
Pirri, Brandon	1	$900,000
Burakovsky, André	3	$4,200,000

Trades

VGK

2022 4th round pick (WSH)

SEA

Brossoit, Laurent

VGK

Gurianov, Denis
2022 4th round pick (DAL)

DAL

Martinez, Alec

VGK

Hart, Carter

PHI

Lehner, Robin
2023 1st round pick (VGK)

Additional Details:

top 5 protected pick

VGK

2022 4th round pick (WPG)

NYR

Patrick, Nolan

VGK

Gardiner, Jake
2022 3rd round pick (CHI)
2023 2nd round pick (CAR)

CAR

Pacioretty, Max

VGK

Kravtsov, Vitali

NYR

2022 2nd round pick (VGK)

VGK

2023 6th round pick (WPG)

NYR

Hutton, Ben

VGK

2022 5th round pick (EDM)

EDM

Gardiner, Jake

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2022
2023
2024

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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TEXT-EMBED

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$82,500,000	$81,645,667	$0	$0	$854,333

Roster

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Burakovsky, André $4,200,000$4,200,000 RW, LW UFA - 5	Eichel, Jack $10,000,000$10,000,000 C NMC UFA - 4	Stone, Mark $9,500,000$9,500,000 RW NMC UFA - 5
Marchessault, Jonathan $5,000,000$5,000,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 2	Karlsson, William $5,900,000$5,900,000 C M-NTC UFA - 5	Smith, Reilly $5,000,000$5,000,000 LW, RW UFA - 3
Roy, Nicolas $3,000,000$3,000,000 C, RW UFA - 5	Stephenson, Chandler $2,750,000$2,750,000 C, LW UFA - 2	Kravtsov, Vitali $875,000$875,000 LW, RW RFA - 1
Carrier, William $1,400,000$1,400,000 LW UFA - 2	Howden, Brett $950,000$950,000 C, LW UFA - 1	Gurianov, Denis $2,900,000$2,900,000 RW, LW UFA - 1
Pirri, Brandon $900,000$900,000 RW, LW UFA		Amadio, Michael $762,500$762,500 RW, LW UFA - 2

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Theodore, Shea $5,200,000$5,200,000 LD/RD UFA - 3	Pietrangelo, Alex $8,800,000$8,800,000 RD NMC UFA - 5	Hart, Carter $3,979,000$3,979,000 G RFA - 2
McNabb, Brayden $2,850,000$2,850,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 3	Whitecloud, Zach $2,750,000$2,750,000 RD UFA - 6	Thompson, Logan $766,667$766,667 G UFA - 3
Hague, Nicolas $1,500,000$1,500,000 LD RFA - 3	De Haan, Calvin $1,900,000$1,900,000 LD/RD UFA - 1
Coghlan, Dylan $762,500$762,500 RD RFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
		Weber, Shea $7,857,143$7,857,143 RD UFA - 4

Special Teams

Power Play 1
Marchessault, J.		Eichel, J.		Burakovsky, A.
	Theodore, S.		Stone, M.

Power Play 2
Gurianov, D.		Karlsson, W.		Smith, R.
	Pietrangelo, A.		Kravtsov, V.

Penalty Kill 1
	Karlsson, W.	Stone, M.
	McNabb, B.	Pietrangelo, A.

Penalty Kill 2
	Stephenson, C.	Marchessault, J.
	Theodore, S.	Hague, N.

Jul. 2, 2022 at 10:10 p.m.

BigBallsBriere

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Flyers say no. Hart Will not be traded unless Were getting something ridiculous in return otherwise, that would be trading him for no reason.

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Jul. 2, 2022 at 10:13 p.m.

SlevinKalevra

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Def no from Dallas

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Jul. 2, 2022 at 10:17 p.m.

Riley816

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I'd definitely make sure the 2023 1st is to 5 protected,

If Carolina can GET a 5th from EDM for Gardiner why PAY a 3rd for Vegas to take him.

Don't see Seattle giving up any picks for one year rentals.

Dallas doesn't need LHD. Six of their 7 DMen are LH.

Patrick is damaged goods. He should be done.

The Rangers probably take pick 48 for Kravtsov.

Jul. 2, 2022 at 10:19 p.m.

PHEN

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What did you do with Keegan Kolesar?? Young RFA. They definitely want him back.

Jul. 2, 2022 at 10:26 p.m.

ecupirate07

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Canes say yes but the follow on move seems unlikely

Jul. 2, 2022 at 10:26 p.m.

KPM12

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Some of this really doesn’t make sense. Hart has immensely struggled recently so why would vegas pay that much to get him and why would philly even try trading him right now.
That type of deal makes no sense for vgk to trade pacioretty, if they were to trade him it is going to prob take a good roster player with a low cap hit plus futures
martinez is a good player but for cap reasons he could be on the way out, doesn't fit what DAL needs rn
Kravtsov shouldn’t be of interest for vgk, hasn’t proven to be able to do anything yet at the NHL level
Patrick deal seems ok, vgk could prob keep him

Jul. 2, 2022 at 10:27 p.m.

Boltsradynasty

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1 thing jumped out at me right away why wouldn't carolina just take the 5 from edmonton instead of paying a 3 tovegas to take hime and flip him for a 5? illogical

Jul. 2, 2022 at 10:34 p.m.

mokumboi

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Setting aside some of these other things that are definitely off in Vegas' favor, how does Gardiner earn a 3rd to take one minute and then become worth a pick in trade the next?

Jul. 2, 2022 at 11:51 p.m.

gdli

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NYR - Nix on all three.

Jul. 3, 2022 at 1:14 a.m.

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WJV5

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Quoting: SlevinKalevra

Def no from Dallas

Loss of klingberg made sense to me, but I forgot he’s left handed. And gurianov hasn’t produced like expected

Jul. 3, 2022 at 1:18 a.m.

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WJV5

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Quoting: mokumboi

Setting aside some of these other things that are definitely off in Vegas' favor, how does Gardiner earn a 3rd to take one minute and then become worth a pick in trade the next?

My thought process was The 2 and 3 were for Pacioretty, Gardiner was there to match enough salary so it doesn’t kill Carolinas cap table, otherwise they may say no

Jul. 3, 2022 at 1:18 a.m.

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WJV5

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Quoting: PHEN

What did you do with Keegan Kolesar?? Young RFA. They definitely want him back.

Shoot you’re right, must’ve glossed over Kolesar’s name by accident

Jul. 3, 2022 at 1:22 a.m.

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WJV5

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Quoting: Riley816

The Seattle trade was cause of Driedger’s severe injury in the tournament a couple weeks ago. He supposed to miss half the year I’ve heard

And for the patches trade, the 2 and 3 were for patches and Gardiner was there to match salary so Carolina would accept.

I forgot Martinez is left handed, that’s my bad, thought it would be a good move for them to replace Klingberg and cause Gurianov could use a change of scenery

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Jul. 3, 2022 at 1:32 a.m.

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WJV5

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Quoting: carts88

Flyers say no. Hart Will not be traded unless Were getting something ridiculous in return otherwise, that would be trading him for no reason.

Hart threw up an .877 last year man, and this past year he put up a .905. Now yes was the defense so bad that calling it incompetent would be a compliment, yes, but Hart isn’t a proven commodity either unlike a John Gibson. The reason I dealt for Hart and not Gibson is cause Lehner has an 10 team NTC, and I could guarantee you Anaheim is on it. Philly could be, but it’s less likely imo. Not to mention Hart’s contract is cheaper. Plus Torts is well, Torts.

Jul. 3, 2022 at 1:34 a.m.

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TheMooterus

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Even if Dallas needed LD, I still don't entertain a Martinez trade until more comes out about his recovery. As recently as March, there was a chance that the injury he sustained was considered "potentially career ending"

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Jul. 3, 2022 at 1:35 a.m.

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WJV5

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Quoting: gdli

NYR - Nix on all three.

You think so? I was torn on kravstov or Kappo’s RFA rights, and with Patrick And Hutton, could’ve (and prob should’ve) sent him to a place like Arizona, I just thought with the potential loss of strome or Copp, and Hutton for d depth, they take a chance on them

Jul. 3, 2022 at 1:36 a.m.

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WJV5

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Quoting: TheMooterus

That’s true

Jul. 3, 2022 at 1:37 a.m.

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WJV5

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Quoting: mokumboi

Setting aside some of these other things that are definitely off in Vegas' favor, how does Gardiner earn a 3rd to take one minute and then become worth a pick in trade the next?

My thought process was 2 and 3 for Patches and Gardiner to match salary so it doesn’t kill the Canes Cap table

Jul. 3, 2022 at 1:39 a.m.

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mokumboi

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Quoting: WJV5

My thought process was The 2 and 3 were for Pacioretty, Gardiner was there to match enough salary so it doesn’t kill Carolinas cap table, otherwise they may say no

That's not what you said above.

Jul. 3, 2022 at 1:44 a.m.

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WJV5

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Quoting: mokumboi

That's not what you said above.

I know I misspoke, I just changed it lol

Jul. 3, 2022 at 1:46 a.m.

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WJV5

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Hey y’all, I misspoke about the patches trade. I meant 2 and 3 for him, idk why I said the 3 for Gardiners contract

Jul. 3, 2022 at 1:54 a.m.

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gdli

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Quoting: WJV5

Kappo will either sign with rangers of sign with NYR or sign an competing offer he can't refuse. The NYR salary cap disaster will not permit the to match. Kravtsov will get his shot at 3rd line RW. Hope I'm wrong but In my opinion he'll flop. Drury we'll work hard bring Andrew back into the fold (Strome has no chance - $ constraints) . #2C is the most pressing issue for the Rangers. Don't need Hutton - Either Lunqvist or Jones will be the 3rd pair LD.

Jul. 3, 2022 at 2:02 a.m.

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gdli

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Quoting: gdli

Don't know what happened there. Re Patrick his price and faceoff % are attractive. his defense not so much. Centers will be: Mika - Copp - Filip - and Barclay. Barclay is who Patrick would be competing against each other. Reaves and Goodrow are Gallant's boys. Gerard would never permit it.

Jul. 3, 2022 at 5:32 a.m.

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Gunmars

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Flyers won't trade Hart unless it is a deal they can't refuse.

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Jul. 3, 2022 at 8:35 a.m.

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BigBallsBriere

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Quoting: WJV5

His numbers could be whatever. The Flyers still believe in him. Torts Mentioned in his press conference that his priority is to get this right for Carter and build structure in front of him. As well as the flyers have struggled to find a Franchise Goalie for years and Hart is our best chance at one. He won't be Traded.

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