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Reports Hughes looking for top 10 Pick

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Team: 2022-23 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 3, 2022
Published: Jul. 3, 2022
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Given Hughes is Stockpiling Picks i gotta assume its in hopes he can move up Draft Day.
MTL on Draft Day makes deals with NYI and EDM
During the Summer DAL and CGY deals are made
The Drouin,Byron,Dadanov and Monahan deals during the TDL
Provided this Post isnt complete Anarchy and i get good info
Ill tackle what the cost of the actual Top 10 pick would be next post
Just trying to get a sence of Direction on how to collect assets to make it work



The Hoffman trade is mostly just testing the waters for an idea i had
Moving him and the trade isnt my Primary focus though banging out a NYI deal is
I just thought this deal both guys get a new start

All this is focused around building up the youth and letting them take jobs.
Pitlick could very well end up on top line given how he played under MSL last year.
Gally could Rebound and step into that role.
There's also Armia who's had a great Summer winning a Title

We got Josh Roy ,Sean Farrel and Emill Heineman coming soon
We have Jesse Ylonen,Jan Mysak and Riley Kidney already here in the AHL
Plus what we got in the trades above MTL is in better shape with plenty of Picks
Free Agent Signings
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3$2,750,000
3$1,450,000
2$1,100,000
2$1,100,000
2$900,000
2$900,000
2$900,000
3$950,000
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Wright, Shane
3$925,000
Trades
1.
MTL
  1. Dufour, William
  2. 2022 1st round pick (NYI)
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Dufour had a Career year in Junior but i dont think that changes his Projection of a Cal Clutterbuck or Joel Armia type Physical Checking Forward in the bottom 6.


That said a Quebec Born Big Winger who plays hard nosed hockey and parks himself infront of the Goalie will be sure to sell a Ton of Jersey's for MTL while playing competent Shutdown Hockey

His value is running high right now as a year ago he was just one of many Point Per Game players in the QMJHL. He found a line much like Dmitri Jaskin did when Moncton acuqired Ivan Barbashev and Phil Danault to play with him as he went from 3rd line behind Connor Garlands and Yannick Villeux's line's during a Rebuild.

Jaskin that year after a Horrible start during a rebuild in Which rookie Garland was brought up at 16 years old to play top line with the Twins ahead of Lalonde's line with Vieulleux and Penny. Jaskin and Barbashev were struggling until Phil Danault was acquired and injected in the 3rd line LW.

Jaskin finished the year 4th in QMJHL Scoring one of the most dominant finishers in the QMJHL that year. Something crazy like 60 pts in 25 games he was on fire. He entered the NHL as a regular bottom 6 forward alongside Barbashev in STL with his style never transitioning past that point despite being a standout that 1 year in junior

Dufour had 17 more pts in 15 more games but their styles and production are mimicing each other. Plus i watched both play live and its like Deja Vu

I give this Longwinded Example In Context because people on here always over value prospects after a Tournament. While Value's do rise people on here assume because they're in the media they're untouchable now. Reality is its more likely that NYI will Leverage that using it to win the Bidding War that's surrounding Josh Anderson
NYI
  1. Anderson, Josh
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MTL wont give away Anderson
MTL doesnt need to with Multiple Offers
The Onus is on NYI to make a bid worth taking

I suspect if Lou's this Aggressive in getting Anderson then its only because he has an offer in waiting for another player maybe a JGP or Bailey who've both been in trade rumors with Varlamov.

Point is Lou must have a plan
So im not going to worry to much about How
Focus on the Who,What ,When and Where
2.
MTL
  1. Monahan, Sean
Additional Details:
1 for 1
Pending UFA who's struggling with a lower Value for someone's who's a Pending UFA next year at a nearly 2m dollar cheaper deal during a year CGY has to sign Key Pieces on a budget.

Both team today can get something ,sure
Both teams tomorrow could get a lot more if these players rebound their value's after a fresh start.

Its not impossible Bennett did it in FLA and Tatar did it in MTL. Why not Monahan and Hoffman?
CGY
  1. Hoffman, Mike
Additional Details:
MTL cash's in on Monahan,Drouin,Dadanov and Byron this year at the TDL.Not all will rebound their value or even get much return however with the ability to RS on 3/4 it does increase the odd's

I think this is a Win Win Deal myself
3.
MTL
  1. Bäck, Oskar
  2. Faksa, Radek
Additional Details:
DAL has like 3 Right handed Shots but tons of Center who can take Faceoffs at 55% on average. To say they'd do this move in a heartbeat is an understatment

Both teams could use the other player equally and both are on similar deals with Similar value's. Plus with Klingberg gone this helps with RD
DAL
  1. Norlinder, Mattias
  2. Savard, David
Additional Details:
MTL gets a Big Physical Center with a solid Win rate who's probably one of the top 3 Defensive Zone Faceoff Center in the NHL. He's good at feeding long pass's which means more possession time for Armia.

Armia when given a Center who can win Faceoffs like Staal or Danault was a Wrecking Ball and a Short Handed Goal Leader in the NHL. Without he's not much of anything really.

The deal is 1 for 1 on NHL level
1 for 1 on AHL level
Its suppose to provide balance

MTL has a log jam at AHL and NHL for LD
Norlinder is the most likely person to move
Back is a LW prospect in DAL mid level where
They are also strong

Again both teams get Value and improve their AHL teams this time
4.
MTL
    Focus is on Moves made in the Off Season
    All these a TDL moves that will be made later.

    Trying not to split the focus too much
    The Comment Section i suspect will already be lively
    DAL
    1. Byron, Paul ($1,700,000 retained)
    2. Dadonov, Evgeni ($2,500,000 retained)
    3. Drouin, Jonathan
    4. Monahan, Sean ($3,185,000 retained)
    Additional Details:
    I think Drouin's odd man out and might get a late pick but is more likely to end up on IR then in a deal

    The other 3 will get a decent return
    Primary focus is on getting youth minutes
    Dvorak,Gally & Armia will stay as VET FW leaders
    5.
    MTL
    1. Kassian, Zack
    2. 2022 1st round pick (EDM)
    Additional Details:
    MTL takes on Kassian's cap letting so they can re-sign Kane. EDM is in a Cap Crunch and has been linked to MTL among others offering their 1st round pick in 2022
    EDM
      29OA Pick to keep Kassian a year then trade him next year at the TDL.
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      $880,833$880,833 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
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      UFA - 1
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      UFA - 3
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      Jul. 3, 2022 at 11:42 p.m.
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      Edited Jul. 3, 2022 at 11:47 p.m.
      Quoting: Jester9881
      "It would be like NYI acquiring another Bottom 6 forward when you have the #1 4th line in the NHL the last 3 years running"

      Or like if the Islanders traded for another 5m middle-six forward when they have Lee, Palmieri, Bailey and Beauvillier? All of whom are better than Anderson.

      My source is as legitimate as the one that started the rumors that the Islanders are interested in Anderson.


      Better then Offensively 100%
      Plays the same game ? Absolutely not

      Anderson's a Net Front Presense who is a big body who loves hitting
      More important he's got lightning Speed and Never gives up on a play
      Palmerri is the only one who plays that style at a Much Slower pace and less physical


      Power Forwards always have more Value just like RD for the simple fact there isnt enough for every team to have multiple.
      Do i think NYI should pay that much ? No one should

      Do i think they or someone will ? Absolutely

      In context Anderson played beside Suzuki and Caufield.
      While Anderson didnt get rewarded offensively really for it
      Suzuki have i believe it was 21 pts in 22 games and Caufield with 25pts in 22 games beside him
      Caufield was so far out of the rookie race it was frustrating but beside Anderson made a huge push late.

      Anderson makes all those around him better
      That said these guys traditionally stay with their draft teams then sign as Free Agent's
      Trading for one happens but its usally avoided due to the cost

      That said again we're talking about Lou here
      He's got a history of Overpaying and Giving prospects away
      Am i surprised there's a bidding war and he's willing to over pay the most?
      Not really its Lou he did it in NJD , TML and NYI so far , why would he change now suddenly?
      Jul. 3, 2022 at 11:51 p.m.
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      Quoting: Koskinen_The_Great
      No clue what you're talking about. I wasnt contradicting you. I was directing my attention at the trade price. I have a lot of these Isles homers blocked. They say such ridiculous nonsense as Seravalli and Lebrun are bloggers that know nothing, you cant talk to ppl like that. Somehow a bunch of them think the Anderson talk is just an Eklund storyline.


      The Anderson to the isles is no different than an Eklund storyline, correct
      Jul. 3, 2022 at 11:54 p.m.
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      Quoting: Billy739
      Better then Offensively 100%
      Plays the same game ? Absolutely not

      Anderson's a Net Front Presense who is a big body who loves hitting
      More important he's got lightning Speed and Never gives up on a play
      Palmerri is the only one who plays that style at a Much Slower pace and less physical


      Power Forwards always have more Value just like RD for the simple fact there isnt enough for every team to have multiple.
      Do i think NYI should pay that much ? No one should

      Do i think they or someone will ? Absolutely

      In context Anderson played beside Suzuki and Caufield.
      While Anderson didnt get rewarded offensively really for it
      Suzuki have i believe it was 21 pts in 22 games and Caufield with 25pts in 22 games beside him
      Caufield was so far out of the rookie race it was frustrating but beside Anderson made a huge push late.

      Anderson makes all those around him better
      That said these guys traditionally stay with their draft teams then sign as Free Agent's
      Trading for one happens but its usally avoided due to the cost

      That said again we're talking about Lou here
      He's got a history of Overpaying and Giving prospects away
      Am i surprised there's a bidding war and he's willing to over pay the most?
      Not really its Lou he did it in NJD , TML and NYI so far , why would he change now suddenly?


      Anderson also has negative hockey IQ, if you know how Lou operates he doesn’t go after dumb players.

      Can you name one prospect Lou has given away since he’s been with the isles? If anything Lou hoards his prospects.

      See the problem here is your proposal is what you want to happen, there is 0 chance the isles trade a 1st rd pick for Anderson, he doesn’t fit what the isles are looking for.
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      Jul. 3, 2022 at 11:56 p.m.
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      Quoting: Db1899
      The Anderson to the isles is no different than an Eklund storyline, correct


      Name taken
      When it happens i have a Tradition of Dragging people nose's in it.
      People who are Popular on here are usually the farthest off in trades when they actually happen

      Case and Point the Chiarot Trade ,The Weber Cap Dump or even Kulak's Value
      I was a Jerk when all those happened because the rest of the 99% of the time i have to endure this stuff
      Jul. 3, 2022 at 11:59 p.m.
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      Quoting: Db1899
      Anderson also has negative hockey IQ, if you know how Lou operates he doesn’t go after dumb players.

      Can you name one prospect Lou has given away since he’s been with the isles? If anything Lou hoards his prospects.

      See the problem here is your proposal is what you want to happen, there is 0 chance the isles trade a 1st rd pick for Anderson, he doesn’t fit what the isles are looking for.


      I will be back for you soon enough
      Im not gracefull when this stuff happens
      Ask anyone who said this type of Fan based Fantasy Hockey BS about Chiarot

      I've been making my rounds about the Kulak return to as most "experts " on here thought he'd get at most a 4th round pick
      The only thing i know is this site mimic's reality but its doesnt live in it haha
      Jul. 4, 2022 at 12:00 a.m.
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      Quoting: Billy739
      Name taken
      When it happens i have a Tradition of Dragging people nose's in it.
      People who are Popular on here are usually the farthest off in trades when they actually happen

      Case and Point the Chiarot Trade ,The Weber Cap Dump or even Kulak's Value
      I was a Jerk when all those happened because the rest of the 99% of the time i have to endure this stuff


      It’s obvious Anderson has market value and will get a good return, there is no chance it will be the isles. They aren’t interested.
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      Jul. 4, 2022 at 12:03 a.m.
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      Quoting: Billy739
      I will be back for you soon enough
      Im not gracefull when this stuff happens
      Ask anyone who said this type of Fan based Fantasy Hockey BS about Chiarot

      I've been making my rounds about the Kulak return to as most "experts " on here thought he'd get at most a 4th round pick
      The only thing i know is this site mimic's reality but its doesnt live in it haha


      You couldn’t answer a simple question because you have no proof.

      Im not arguing what Andersons value in a trade is to other teams, anyone who thinks Anderson to the Islanders is realistic is just straight up out of their mind. I don’t care about other teams
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      Jul. 4, 2022 at 12:19 a.m.
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      Quoting: Db1899
      You couldn’t answer a simple question because you have no proof.

      Im not arguing what Andersons value in a trade is to other teams, anyone who thinks Anderson to the Islanders is realistic is just straight up out of their mind. I don’t care about other teams


      Toews that was easy
      Sorry i thought you were playing dumb i didnt think you were serious
      I mean how could you be given he just Won a Cup as a Key Figure thanks to Lou

      Especially when questioning someone else's grasp on Reality while they re-write history and ignore Context.
      I mean were not talking about someone who maybe did ok we're talking about the #2 Dman on the Stanley Cup Champ team who shutdown TBL 3peat

      This shoulda been fresh in your mind eating away at you but i guess recent history is too far back for you to recall lol
      Jul. 4, 2022 at 12:37 a.m.
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      Quoting: Billy739
      Toews that was easy
      Sorry i thought you were playing dumb i didnt think you were serious
      I mean how could you be given he just Won a Cup as a Key Figure thanks to Lou


      You are wrong , Toews wasn’t a prospect. he was 26 YO at the time of the trade and had been on two playoff runs with the isles. He was traded because Barry Trotz wanted him traded. Apparently the “elite” coach didn’t think Toews was important.

      Anyways, this ACGM is hilarious. The isles will keep Dufour and pick 13 (one of Nazar/Lambert) and the Habs can keep Anderson. Isles don’t want your trash.
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      Jul. 4, 2022 at 12:44 a.m.
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      Quoting: Billy739
      Toews that was easy
      Sorry i thought you were playing dumb i didnt think you were serious
      I mean how could you be given he just Won a Cup as a Key Figure thanks to Lou

      Especially when questioning someone else's grasp on Reality while they re-write history and ignore Context.
      I mean were not talking about someone who maybe did ok we're talking about the #2 Dman on the Stanley Cup Champ team who shutdown TBL 3peat

      This shoulda been fresh in your mind eating away at you but i guess recent history is too far back for you to recall lol


      Toews Is great, I was rooting for the Avs. I’m just happy the reason why Toews is gone (Barry Trotz) got fired. fortunately the isles have a few star defenseman of their own. You should look up the definition of a prospect, are you ok man?
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      Jul. 4, 2022 at 6:57 a.m.
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      Quoting: Billy739
      Better then Offensively 100%
      Plays the same game ? Absolutely not

      Anderson's a Net Front Presense who is a big body who loves hitting
      More important he's got lightning Speed and Never gives up on a play
      Palmerri is the only one who plays that style at a Much Slower pace and less physical


      Power Forwards always have more Value just like RD for the simple fact there isnt enough for every team to have multiple.
      Do i think NYI should pay that much ? No one should

      Do i think they or someone will ? Absolutely

      In context Anderson played beside Suzuki and Caufield.
      While Anderson didnt get rewarded offensively really for it
      Suzuki have i believe it was 21 pts in 22 games and Caufield with 25pts in 22 games beside him
      Caufield was so far out of the rookie race it was frustrating but beside Anderson made a huge push late.

      Anderson makes all those around him better
      That said these guys traditionally stay with their draft teams then sign as Free Agent's
      Trading for one happens but its usally avoided due to the cost

      That said again we're talking about Lou here
      He's got a history of Overpaying and Giving prospects away
      Am i surprised there's a bidding war and he's willing to over pay the most?
      Not really its Lou he did it in NJD , TML and NYI so far , why would he change now suddenly?


      Anders Lee has scored 40 goals in this league playing that style. Give it up, the Islanders don't want or need Anderson. What prospect has Lou given away as Islander GM where he wasn't forced due to a flat cap because of COVID? For a team that traded Sergachev for Drouin unforced, maybe you shouldn't spout off.
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      Jul. 4, 2022 at 9:00 a.m.
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      Quoting: mokumboi
      I'm saying the cost of Edmonton dumping Kassian at this time is solidly a 2nd. A 3rd is too little, maybe at the trade deadline, but not now.


      They can buy him out with a minimal cap penalty. How is that worth a 2nd??
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      Jul. 4, 2022 at 11:29 a.m.
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      Quoting: CD282
      They can buy him out with a minimal cap penalty. How is that worth a 2nd??


      A buyout is an entirely different thing, they're not asking another team to eat their 6.4m dump, which would be worth a 2nd. This is not news.
      Jul. 4, 2022 at 1:12 p.m.
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      Quoting: mokumboi
      A buyout is an entirely different thing, they're not asking another team to eat their 6.4m dump, which would be worth a 2nd. This is not news.


      There's nothing stopping the receiving team from buying him out though, so it's not a different thing at all. Say Anaheim trades a 6th for Kassian + 3rd and then buys him out - the total cost for that is $966k x 4. Seems reasonable to me. I don't see why a 1st or 2nd needs to be involved.
      Jul. 4, 2022 at 1:21 p.m.
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      Quoting: CD282
      There's nothing stopping the receiving team from buying him out though, so it's not a different thing at all. Say Anaheim trades a 6th for Kassian + 3rd and then buys him out - the total cost for that is $966k x 4. Seems reasonable to me. I don't see why a 1st or 2nd needs to be involved.


      You act like having another team buy him out ain't gonna cost nothing. The general standard is a 1st for around 7m of dump. This is hardly a secret. Now, Kassian is a little below that amount and some will say he does have a tiny bit of use. So yeah, I'm estimating around a 2nd, just as numerous journalists have done for months now. Again, this is not a hot original take I'm coming with. It's pretty much consensus.
      Jul. 4, 2022 at 1:21 p.m.
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      Oops. My net is going screwy ATM . Double post.
      Jul. 4, 2022 at 1:28 p.m.
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      Quoting: mokumboi
      You act like having another team buy him out ain't gonna cost nothing. The general standard is a 1st for around 7m of dump. This is hardly a secret. Now, Kassian is a little below that amount and some will say he does have a tiny bit of use. So yeah, I'm estimating around a 2nd, just as numerous journalists have done for months now. Again, this is not a hot original take I'm coming with. It's pretty much consensus.


      $966 x 4 is a LOT less than $7M though. Like near half.
      Jul. 4, 2022 at 1:58 p.m.
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      Quoting: CD282
      $966 x 4 is a LOT less than $7M though. Like near half.


      Bruh... I'm not saying Edmonton has no options. But what a buyout would cost has no bearing on what another team will expect to accept a cap dump. I do not understand the disconnect. Nothing I'm saying is new or controversial. And I'm also only operating on the premise proposed by the AGM creator.
       
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