If Petry were to be traded to Detroit it (more or less) forces a Hronek trade and we'd get a 34 year old expensive player in decline instead of a 24 year old cheaper player still improving. And with Detroit having no RD prospects apart from Tuomisto we could well be in a situation of having to acquire a new top-4 RD in only two years time.

Petry makes absolutely no sense at all from a team building perspective neither does it fit with any other move Yzerman has done earlier. If Hronek is to be replaced it should be with a better and younger player not a 34 year old declining one on a massive monster of a contract.

What or Who is a credible source?

I watch every Habs game. They main issue with Anderson since he arrived in MTL (and every Habs fan will agree with me here) is consistency (either with injuries or with how he plays). When he's off his game, yes, it does look like he's floating around. When he's on his game. Everyone notices him on the ice. He can snipe in the offensive zone and in transition he becomes a beast (forechecking and getting back on D).

I can assure you Anderson doesn't have poor vision. etc...... I'm not saying it's elite either, granted. but it's also not his style of play. He's a Power Forward, not a playmaker. He uses his size and speed to create space for his teammates. All this non-sense about low IQ seems more rooted in the Power Forward stereotype....

People criticizing his stats.... last year in his 1st year with the Habs he had 17goals in 52 games (that's on a 27goal pro-rated pace...) last year he had 19goals in 69games (that's still a 22-23goal pro-rated pace)... all while still being, rightfully, labelled as inconsistent.

He's not perfect, nobody is denying it. and the rumored value Hughes is asking for does seem over the top. but the hate you (and many others) have for him is unjustified.... period.

Friedman, McKenzie, Dreger, Weeks, etc. I’d also say athletic writers are credible

I suppose it doesn't make sense if you don't see the value in having a good, veteran to pair with Edvinsson to help his development. I'm not all that worried about the contract, especially if there's a bit of retention, because the Wings won't be stressed by the cap (in all likelihood) during its duration. You obviously like Hronek, I get it, but at this point I'm skeptical that there are any RHD in the organization that will end up being long term pieces aside from Seider.

Friedman, McKenzie, Dreger, Weeks, etc. I’d also say athletic writers are credible

There has been no legitimate connection between the isles and Habs on an Anderson trade. The winger the isles are looking for is someone who can put up 60-70 pts and play with Barzal. Requirements would be high IQ and being a good passer to play give and go with Barzal. Anderson has low hockey IQ and can’t make a pass to save his life.

The most legitimate source who’s spoken about Anderson is the fourth period who said the isles are not linked to Anderson.

I watch every Habs game. They main issue with Anderson since he arrived in MTL (and every Habs fan will agree with me here) is consistency (either with injuries or with how he plays). When he's off his game, yes, it does look like he's floating around. When he's on his game. Everyone notices him on the ice. He can snipe in the offensive zone and in transition he becomes a beast (forechecking and getting back on D).

I can assure you Anderson doesn't have poor vision. etc...... I'm not saying it's elite either, granted. but it's also not his style of play. He's a Power Forward, not a playmaker. He uses his size and speed to create space for his teammates. All this non-sense about low IQ seems more rooted in the Power Forward stereotype....

People criticizing his stats.... last year in his 1st year with the Habs he had 17goals in 52 games (that's on a 27goal pro-rated pace...) last year he had 19goals in 69games (that's still a 22-23goal pro-rated pace)... all while still being, rightfully, labelled as inconsistent.

He's not perfect, nobody is denying it. and the rumored value Hughes is asking for does seem over the top. but the hate you (and many others) have for him is unjustified.... period.

I suppose it doesn't make sense if you don't see the value in having a good, veteran to pair with Edvinsson to help his development. I'm not all that worried about the contract, especially if there's a bit of retention, because the Wings won't be stressed by the cap (in all likelihood) during its duration. You obviously like Hronek, I get it, but at this point I'm skeptical that there are any RHD in the organization that will end up being long term pieces aside from Seider.

Anders Lee is one of the best Power forwards in the NHL and he can pass fairly well. Just go type in “Josh anderson hockey Iq “ on Twitter search and you’ll see. This is a known flaw about his game.

Everything I’ve said about him is true. It’s not my opinion. I’m arguing why there is no legitimacy to this rumor and that Anderson would be a terrible fit on the islanders

Ah yes, referring to twitter, I forgot how that makes everything legitimate...

it's the exact opposite what you wrote. There is no definitive truth to what you're saying, and it's absolutely just you're opinion.


As I wrote in my previous reply to you. I agreed that there is no "real" source that links Anderson to NYI. but putting 2 and 2 together with the NYI legitimately looking for a winger, and the Habs legitimately fielding offers on Anderson. There is a connection to be made, even if you don't like it. and yes, that's my opinion. The whole explosion between fan bases has been on the reported asking price Hughes wants for Anderson, which has Habs fans excited, and NYI not so much...

It is the truth , Anderson is a terrible passer (just look at his assist rates) for starters and it’s well known that Anderson is a very dumb hockey player. If he wasn’t, he’d put up better results.

NYI are looking for a proven top line winger, not a bottom 6 plug. The “explosion” from isles fans is from Habs fans acting like Anderson to the isles for a 1st is realistic and spamming this site with bizarre trades. Isles fans know that Anderson to the isles isn’t happening.

You (and people like you) are the reason for my post lol

if by a miracle of a chance that Anderson does get traded to the Islanders. The title of my post is what you will be experiencing.

You (and people like you) are the reason for my post lol

if by a miracle of a chance that Anderson does get traded to the Islanders. The title of my post is what you will be experiencing.

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You conveniently (perhaps unintentionally) included Anderson's last season with CBJ (where he only had 1 goal). and it even specifies in the notes that it pro-rates all seasons. So that last CBJ season would destroy anyone's analytics lol

Could you redo it just with the Habs seasons? (just the past 2 seasons). I'm genuinely curious what it looks like.

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cool thanks. There's no way for you to do it with both Habs seasons? 2 year range?

It only allows 1 or 3 season sample size, which is why I did the last 3

I never subscribed, so I don't get to see these charts unless someone else posts them.

Last request! Could you do the 2021-2022 season? (1 year range). Ironically this past season would probably be his best analytically. the one you posted is for his 2020-2021 season.

It is his best, he’s still below average offensively but it’s the first time since the 18-19 season he’s been above average defensively. Overall he still has the impact of a low end 3rd liner.

Ah yes, referring to twitter, I forgot how that makes everything legitimate...

Hmmmmm interesting.... well all 3 charts definitely confirm that you do not want Josh Anderson on your PP lol

In all seriousness, although GAR and xGAR aren't an all encompassing evaluation. the 3 charts do show that Anderson does indeed drive play (his xGAR is actually really solid), but rarely has anything to show for it, which is indicative of 3rd line players.

Can we at least agree this plays into the whole "maybe we can fix him" that makes him such an appealing asset to other GMs. The guy has still managed to put up "pro-rated" 20+goal seasons with the Habs with those analytics...

You (and people like you) are the reason for my post lol

if by a miracle of a chance that Anderson does get traded to the Islanders. The title of my post is what you will be experiencing.