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Created by: royle9
Team: 2022-23 Calgary Flames
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 5, 2022
Published: Jul. 5, 2022
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Description
Flames re-tool/rebuild idea - Unload veteran depth guys @ deadline for more pieces if out of a playoff spot (Tanev, Hanifin, Backlund etc)

Forsberg unites with team Sweden.
Few years of Trochek, might be light on the salary here but room to offer more. Wouldn't go anymore than 3 years though, just enough to bridge the gap of a "re-tool/rebuild".

NJD - I've seen numerous trades for Tkachuk on here, always centered around something similar. I know some want Mercer but I think NJ would rather Holtz.
NYR - Rumblings Chytil looking to move, is this enough? Monahan back from surgery, but this one went better than any other, looking to bounce back and 50% retained for 1 year and fits in where Strome was lost.

Colorado - With both Makar and Byram would Colorado be willing to move Girard for a signed RFA (probably around the 5M mark so a wash in contract value) who just put up 38 goals and could slot in quite well in the top 6 for a fraction of the price of the other big name UFA's ?
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$1,650,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
7$8,650,000
2$1,500,000
3$1,650,000
1$800,000
3$5,250,000
Trades
1.
CGY
  1. Holtz, Alexander
  2. Smith, Ty
  3. 2022 1st round pick (NJD)
NJD
  1. Tkachuk, Matthew [RFA Rights]
2.
CGY
  1. 2022 7th round pick (SEA)
SEA
  1. Lucic, Milan
  2. 2023 2nd round pick (CGY)
3.
NYR
  1. Monahan, Sean ($3,187,500 retained)
  2. Välimäki, Juuso
Additional Details:
50% retained.
4.
CGY
  1. Girard, Samuel
  2. 2023 1st round pick (COL)
COL
  1. Mangiapane, Andrew [RFA Rights]
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2022
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Logo of the SEA
2023
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Logo of the COL
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Logo of the CGY
2024
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Logo of the CGY
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
21$82,500,000$65,795,833$0$1,250,000$16,704,167
Left WingCentreRight Wing
$8,650,000$8,650,000
LW
UFA - 8
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$4,850,000$4,850,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$2,125,000$2,125,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
Logo of the New York Rangers
$2,300,000$2,300,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
$5,250,000$5,250,000
C, RW
UFA - 7
Logo of the New Jersey Devils
$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RW, LW
RFA - 3
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$863,333$863,333
LW
RFA - 2
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$5,350,000$5,350,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$4,900,000$4,900,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 5
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$2,300,000$2,300,000
LW, RW, C
RFA - 2
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$1,650,000$1,650,000
RW, C, LW
UFA - 4
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$800,000$800,000
RW, C
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$1,237,500$1,237,500
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$4,550,000$4,550,000
RD
UFA - 4
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$6,000,000$6,000,000
G
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD/RD
UFA - 5
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$1,125,000$1,125,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$750,000$750,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$1,650,000$1,650,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$1,500,000$1,500,000
RD
UFA - 4
Logo of the New Jersey Devils
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$400,000$400K)
LD/RD
RFA - 1

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Jul. 5, 2022 at 10:30 a.m.
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There is no way Jersey does that trade for one year of MT. Heck they sign Gaudreau or any good UFA and be much better off.
Can't see Lucic wanting to go to a non playoff team in his final year.
Jul. 5, 2022 at 10:32 a.m.
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Quoting: palhal
There is no way Jersey does that trade for one year of MT. Heck they sign Gaudreau or any good UFA and be much better off.
Can't see Lucic wanting to go to a non playoff team in his final year.


U keep saying one year. They can agree to an extension before the trade. Devils would do this trade. I take ur the fan that’s always saying “next year”
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Jul. 5, 2022 at 10:34 a.m.
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Its already been reported that if Johnny walks Calgary isn't going to make any rash decisions. So a signing like Forsberg or Trocheck simply wont happen. The draft will be over by then so you can forget about the New Jersey trade.
Jul. 5, 2022 at 10:37 a.m.
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avs obviously decline. no need for the 1st.
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Jul. 5, 2022 at 10:37 a.m.
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Avs aren't adding, especially a 1st, to Girard for Mangiapane.
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Jul. 5, 2022 at 10:38 a.m.
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Very quick Rangers decline.
Jul. 5, 2022 at 10:38 a.m.
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Quoting: palhal
There is no way Jersey does that trade for one year of MT. Heck they sign Gaudreau or any good UFA and be much better off.
Can't see Lucic wanting to go to a non playoff team in his final year.


This whole 1 year of Tkachuk argument is so silly. Fiala just got traded and signed a 7 year deal with the exact same RFA status. This isn't like Miller or Pastrnak where then are a pending UFA.

In your mind why does Tkachuk want to hit free agency? To sign overseas? To get less money on a max 7 year deal? None lf it makes sense
Jul. 5, 2022 at 10:40 a.m.
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Can’t imagine the Avs would be the ones adding to the Girard trade, let alone a 1st. Way off
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Jul. 5, 2022 at 10:46 a.m.
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Devils decline. They aren't adding much of value on top of 2oa for MT, especially when they're Gaudreau's most likely destination
Jul. 5, 2022 at 11:01 a.m.
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Devils decline. They aren't adding much of value on top of 2oa for MT, especially when they're Gaudreau's most likely destination

Rangers decline vigorously
Jul. 5, 2022 at 11:05 a.m.
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Quoting: pretzelcoatl
Devils decline. They aren't adding much of value on top of 2oa for MT, especially when they're Gaudreau's most likely destination


I'm having a hard time valuing players. Because this is same trade people are proposing for DeBrincat and its too much. Now it's too much for Matthew Tkachuk,the exact player Devils fans are drooling about ( Heavier skill)?
Jul. 5, 2022 at 11:09 a.m.
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I'm having a hard time valuing players. Because this is same trade people are proposing for DeBrincat and its too much. Now it's too much for Matthew Tkachuk,the exact player Devils fans are drooling about ( Heavier skill)?


I'm of the opinion that there is almost no trade worth it for 2oa. Swap out Holtz and Smith for say, Zacha and Muk and we might be talking, but if Gaudreau isn't a Flame come fall, five bucks says he's a Devil, and if the Devils are waiting for UFA to court Gaudreau, that would mean 2oa is off the table.

If Gaudreau extended with Calgary in the coming days, I would consider a trade for Tkachuk or Debrincat. I'm very heavily inclined to just make the pick, since any one of Wright, Slafkovsky, Cooley, and Jiricek panning out would be worth it.
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Jul. 5, 2022 at 11:19 a.m.
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Quoting: pretzelcoatl
I'm of the opinion that there is almost no trade worth it for 2oa. Swap out Holtz and Smith for say, Zacha and Muk and we might be talking, but if Gaudreau isn't a Flame come fall, five bucks says he's a Devil, and if the Devils are waiting for UFA to court Gaudreau, that would mean 2oa is off the table.

If Gaudreau extended with Calgary in the coming days, I would consider a trade for Tkachuk or Debrincat. I'm very heavily inclined to just make the pick, since any one of Wright, Slafkovsky, Cooley, and Jiricek panning out would be worth it.


I'm hoping JG gives his answer soon rather than later. They say his no response is a tell tale sign he's probably out.
 
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