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Created by: Jimbo1119

Team: 2022-23 New York Rangers

Initial Creation Date: Jul. 5, 2022

Published: Jul. 5, 2022

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

Idea here is to solidify the top 6 (Copp) while moving a very valuable player (Miller).

Not sure about the valuations in this deal- not familiar with where LA stands on Pinelli (a real good prospect going into D+2 year who I'm guessing jumps from juniors to AHL this year).

Moving Miller would sidestep the cap crunch next year, all the while adding a C prospect to the NYR shallow C depth....a prospect who currently projects as an eventual top 6 C.

Of course NYR D takes a hit...but this is a position of organizational strength.

In the end, the question is who is more important to this team going forward:
Miller as a cornerstone to NYR D?
or
Copp as a pillar of the F group going forward?
NOTE: depending on $, Trocheck might even be an option in this type scenario (if prefered over Copp)

Free Agent Signings

RFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Kakko, Kaapo		2	$2,300,000

UFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Lindgren, Charlie		2	$800,000
Copp, Andrew		5	$5,350,000

Trades

NYR

Pinelli, Francesco
2022 2nd round pick (LAK)

LAK

Miller, K'Andre

NYR

2022 4th round pick (NYR)

MTL

Gauthier, Julien

NYR

2022 4th round pick (ARI)

WPG

Reaves, Ryan
2023 6th round pick (WPG)

Buyouts

Kevin Shattenkirk: $1,433,333
Dan Girardi: $1,111,111
Anthony Deangelo: $883,334
Brad Richards: $0

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2022
2023
2024

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
22	$82,500,000	$81,648,136	$0	$4,100,000	$851,864

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Kreider, Chris $6,500,000$6,500,000 LW NMC UFA - 5	Zibanejad, Mika $8,500,000$8,500,000 C NMC UFA - 8	Lafrenière, Alexis $925,000$925,000 ($2,850,000$3M) LW, RW RFA - 1
Panarin, Artemi $11,642,857$11,642,857 LW NMC UFA - 4	Copp, Andrew $5,350,000$5,350,000 C, LW, RW UFA - 5	Kakko, Kaapo $2,300,000$2,300,000 RW RFA - 2
Goodrow, Barclay $3,641,667$3,641,667 C, LW M-NTC UFA - 5	Chytil, Filip $2,300,000$2,300,000 C, LW UFA - 1	Kravtsov, Vitali $875,000$875,000 LW, RW RFA - 1
Othmann, Brennan $894,167$894,167 LW RFA - 4	Brodzinski, Jonny $762,500$762,500 C UFA - 2	Blais, Samuel $1,525,000$1,525,000 LW, RW UFA - 1
Hunt, Dryden $762,500$762,500 LW, RW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Lindgren, Ryan $3,000,000$3,000,000 LD RFA - 2		Shesterkin, Igor $5,666,667$5,666,667 G UFA - 3
Lundkvist, Nils $925,000$925,000 ($850,000$850K) RD RFA - 2	Fox, Adam $9,500,000$9,500,000 RD UFA - 7
	Trouba, Jacob $8,000,000$8,000,000 RD NMC UFA - 4	Lindgren, Charlie $800,000$800,000 G UFA - 3
Jones, Zachary $925,000$925,000 LD RFA - 1	Schneider, Braden $925,000$925,000 ($400,000$400K) RD RFA - 2
Nemeth, Patrik $2,500,000$2,500,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 2

Jul. 5, 2022 at 1:23 p.m.

tkecanuck341

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Kings would go for this. Pinelli is a quality prospect, but the Kings have too many center prospects ahead of him at the moment, and they have an obvious need at LHD.

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Jul. 5, 2022 at 1:26 p.m.

ItsBreach

Joined: Jun. 2022

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this is a weird move. i don't see the rangers moving on from miller unless they get a crazy return. and this return would have to be an established nhl player

Jul. 5, 2022 at 1:28 p.m.

Howie

Joined: Jan. 2022

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Copp is testing fa

Jul. 5, 2022 at 1:33 p.m.

Enrique

Iglesias

Joined: Dec. 2021

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Kings would take this and run. Can I ask why you would want Pinelli? Hes a b+ prospect. Turcotte and Vilardi are the better players/prospects.

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Jul. 5, 2022 at 1:35 p.m.

hero9154

Joined: Jun. 2018

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Rangers decline.

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Jul. 5, 2022 at 1:35 p.m.

saysthemachine

Joined: May 2018

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K'Andre has the highest upside out of all our D men. There's no reason to trade him. He made the top 4 out of camp. He's poised to pay out better than a 2C.

Jul. 5, 2022 at 1:36 p.m.

Fox_Czar_Cup

Joined: Apr. 2016

Posts: 7,944

Likes: 1,435

Delete before other fan bases read this lol. Fox KAM & BS are our future D core! Hopefully with Robertson. Jones & Nils are expendable. Lindgren & Trouba may be gone in a few years. Copp is average and soon overpaid

Jul. 5, 2022 at 1:37 p.m.

Mike_Gartner

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in what world does it make sense to keep Copp over Miller?

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Jul. 5, 2022 at 2:50 p.m.

OldNYIfan

Once a Kings Fan Too

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Echoing my friend @Enrique, we offer you your choice of Pinelli, Turcotte or Vilardi plus our 2022 second for Miller.

Jul. 5, 2022 at 2:56 p.m.

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Jimbo1119

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Jimbo1119

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Quoting: tkecanuck341

Kings would go for this. Pinelli is a quality prospect, but the Kings have too many center prospects ahead of him at the moment, and they have an obvious need at LHD.

As I said in the description, the idea behind this is to move from a position of depth to acquire a C who projects as a top 6 C. Don't know much about Pinelli except that he's a very young prospect with some potential. Miller, of course is a top 4 D right now- and has a lot more upside....so yeah- to appease all the NYR fans who want me to delete this- to make this deal I guess would want more coming back to NYR...I just wouldn't get hung up on the valuation here. The idea of this lineup is to solidify C depth and top 6 F corps, while pushing the cap crunch back to when it will be more manageable- when one or more of the big contracts can be moved.

Jul. 5, 2022 at 3:09 p.m.

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Jimbo1119

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Jimbo1119

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Quoting: Mike_Gartner

in what world does it make sense to keep Copp over Miller?

Quoting: Fox_Czar_Cup

To anyone who's locked into KAM with this D- I really have no problem with that...the guy is a really good young player, already in top 4, and a lot of growth still left in his game...but you do have to give to get. If this deal is not it- then that's fine....just putting out there an idea to generate some C depth (with young guys who project top 6) all the while avoiding the 2023 CAP crunch. And if in doing so they can get Copp to come down a little bit from the 5.5M he seems stuck on- I think he can outplay that contract.

Jul. 5, 2022 at 3:26 p.m.

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Jimbo1119

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Jimbo1119

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Quoting: OldNYIfan

Echoing my friend Enrique, we offer you your choice of Pinelli, Turcotte or Vilardi plus our 2022 second for Miller.

It seems LA has soured considerably on Turcotte and Villardi. Not sure where either of these guys has fallen short- but while NYR wouldn't mind either- NYR wouldn't accept as centerpiece of a return on Miller. As far as Pinelli- I admitedly don't know much about him. I included him here to get a discussion started regarding the recycling of talent from a position of strength to a position of dire need. Seeing the responses, this idea hasn't been accepted too well- which is fine for discussion sake- but obviously if such an idea were to go to fruition considerably more that Pinelli and a 2022 2nd would have to come back for Miller.

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