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DUBAS FINALLY GETS IT RIGHT BY ADDING SCHEIFELE COPP AND MARCHMENT

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Jul. 6, 2022 at 11:04 p.m.
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Quoting: TML_Tika
Do not understand what you are trying to say?


I was agreeing with the previous person that Marchment would get about double what you signed him for. I'm not acting like he's elite. I'm acting like he's going to get paid like a good middle-six winger.
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Jul. 6, 2022 at 11:06 p.m.
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No reason for Jets to take two years of Nylander for two years of Scheifele. No reason for Isles to take the full contract of Muzzin or Muzzin to waive.
Interesting that the Leafs get a third rounder for 3.5m Kerfoot but Leafs are able to sign UFA Marchment for 2.2m
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Jul. 6, 2022 at 11:06 p.m.
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I think Scheifele is not happy in Winnipeg and Jets may need to move him now and their GM and Coach would be driving to the airport to pick up Nylander if they acquired him.


I know you likely don’t get much jets news out in leafs land, but the new HC of the Jets Rick Bowness said he spoke with scheifele and said he was extremely excited for next year and was all in. So to me, it sounds like he just wants to win, like any player. If anything, it’s more likely Dubois is moved at this point. Also no, the coach and GM wouldn’t be rushing to make this deal happen. They create a major hole at C, while adding to an already strong group of wingers.
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Jul. 6, 2022 at 11:07 p.m.
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You have throw up a bunch of numbers that do not make sense.........There is not a chance I am giving Marchment a six year deal for $3.3 million a year if I am a GM in the National Hockey League and want to keep my job.


I guess it’s a good think that you’re not a GM and aren’t making decisions, because you’d be the most hated GM in the league lol. Agents and other GMs probably block your number after your outlandish trade requests and contract offers.
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Jul. 6, 2022 at 11:07 p.m.
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I was agreeing with the previous person that Marchment would get about double what you signed him for. I'm not acting like he's elite. I'm acting like he's going to get paid like a good middle-six winger.


You actually think Marchment is going to get paid $4,400,000 per year or double the $2,200,000 I signed him for?........I don't have a problem with your number if Marchment had a track record of 2 or 3 good seasons of production in the NHL.
Jul. 6, 2022 at 11:10 p.m.
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You actually think Marchment is going to get paid $4,400,000 per year or double the $2,200,000 I signed him for?........I don't have a problem with your number if Marchment had a track record of 2 or 3 good seasons of production in the NHL.


It's what the market will dictate.
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Jul. 6, 2022 at 11:13 p.m.
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No reason for Jets to take two years of Nylander for two years of Scheifele. No reason for Isles to take the full contract of Muzzin or Muzzin to waive.
Interesting that the Leafs get a third rounder for 3.5m Kerfoot but Leafs are able to sign UFA Marchment for 2.2m


I think you are under-estimating the Winnipeg situation in that alot of the players do not seem to be happy including Scheifele and Dubois and it is better to move those guys out before they negatively impact the rest of the team and especially the younger players.

Kerfoot to date has a much better track record and history than Marchment in the NHL.

You are right that Muzzen does not need to waive.......but he is also a pro like McDonagh and just wants to play and be appreciated........He also may realize that he is the reason that he is holding up the development and signing of Sandin.
Jul. 6, 2022 at 11:14 p.m.
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Edited Jul. 6, 2022 at 11:35 p.m.
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You have throw up a bunch of numbers that do not make sense.........There is not a chance I am giving Marchment a six year deal for $3.3 million a year if I am a GM in the National Hockey League and want to keep my job.


Nobody saw Goodrow gettin 6 no one saw paul getting 7 drury and Briesbois still have jobs
Jul. 6, 2022 at 11:18 p.m.
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I think you are under-estimating the Winnipeg situation in that alot of the players do not seem to be happy including Scheifele and Dubois and it is better to move those guys out before they negatively impact the rest of the team and especially the younger players.

Kerfoot to date has a much better track record and history than Marchment in the NHL.

You are right that Muzzen does not need to waive.......but he is also a pro like McDonagh and just wants to play and be appreciated........He also may realize that he is the reason that he is holding up the development and signing of Sandin.


McDonagh is a bad comparison to Muzzin. McDonagh didn't spend his entire life dreaming of being a bolt. Muxxin did a leaf a lot like Tavares who Toronto also will never get to waive.
Jul. 6, 2022 at 11:19 p.m.
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Nobody saw Goodrow gettin 6 no one saw paul getting 7 drury and riesbois still have jobs


Tampa giving Paul a 7 year contract was nonsense and Brisbois will not be around in 7 years to answser the media for his crazy contract to Paul as Tampa window is ending soon with the trade out of McDonagh.
Jul. 6, 2022 at 11:20 p.m.
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I think Scheifele is not happy in Winnipeg and Jets may need to move him now and their GM and Coach would be driving to the airport to pick up Nylander if they acquired him.


I doubt that. Per Bowness, Scheifele is all in next season, so he's likely off the market for now. Scheif's way more valuable to WPG anyway and they'll do what they can to keep him, including passing on Nylander.

You have a better shot at getting PLD, I'd say.
Jul. 6, 2022 at 11:23 p.m.
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Tampa giving Paul a 7 year contract was nonsense and Brisbois will not be around in 7 years to answser the media for his crazy contract to Paul as Tampa window is ending soon with the trade out of McDonagh.


i've been hearing the tampa window has been closing for years and somehow they figure it out. Yes he will be Jeff Vinnick is a very loyal owner he'll keep Brisebois. Yzermann was allowed to swap positions with JBB his final year here and work from Detriot where Yzermans wife wanted to be (why i'll never understand but hey)
Jul. 6, 2022 at 11:24 p.m.
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McDonagh is a bad comparison to Muzzin. McDonagh didn't spend his entire life dreaming of being a bolt. Muxxin did a leaf a lot like Tavares who Toronto also will never get to waive.


I actually think McDonagh and Muzzen are very comparable shutdown older defenceman in the National Hockey League........McDonagh agreed to the trade out because he realized Tampa would not be able to resign his younger friends on the team and Tampa was nolonger fully appreciating what he was doing for the team.

The same holds true for Muzzen on the Leafs in a Cap World.
Jul. 6, 2022 at 11:26 p.m.
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I actually think McDonagh and Muzzen are very comparable shutdown older defenceman in the National Hockey League........McDonagh agreed to the trade out because he realized Tampa would not be able to resign his younger friends on the team and Tampa was nolonger fully appreciating what he was doing for the team.

The same holds true for Muzzen on the Leafs in a Cap World.


Good luck enjoy living on Fantasy Island the plane boss the plane
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Jul. 6, 2022 at 11:26 p.m.
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I doubt that. Per Bowness, Scheifele is all in next season, so he's likely off the market for now. Scheif's way more valuable to WPG anyway and they'll do what they can to keep him, including passing on Nylander.

You have a better shot at getting PLD, I'd say.


What would you expect Bowness to tell the Winnipeg media?..........If Scheifele truly wants out......it will be kept a secret from the media and fans and it will just happen.
Jul. 6, 2022 at 11:27 p.m.
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Good luck enjoy living on Fantasy Island the plane boss the plane


Tampa is not a dynasty as they have not won 3 Stanley Cups in a row like the Leafs.
Jul. 6, 2022 at 11:29 p.m.
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Tampa is not a dynasty as they have not won 3 Stanley Cups in a row like the Leafs.


and the lightning have won 3 stanley cups since toronto won a playoff series 3 cups 0 series wins BTW it's pretty easy to win when it's only a 6 team league unlike the31/32 now. can you actually personally remember a leafs Cup win? I doubt it unless you're in your 60's
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Jul. 6, 2022 at 11:29 p.m.
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How many times do Islanders fans have to say Muzzin to NY is not happening he’s making too much to be injury prone, he’s got a full NTC and isles are looking for younger d men
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Jul. 6, 2022 at 11:32 p.m.
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How many times do Islanders fans have to say Muzzin to NY is not happening he’s making too much to be injury prone, he’s got a full NTC and isles are looking for younger d men


I am more interested in what Lou thinks of the merits of acquiring a 2 time Stanley Cup Winner in Muzzen for the Islanders and not their fans.

Islanders defence was really weak last year and cost Trotz his coaching job.
Jul. 6, 2022 at 11:37 p.m.
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I am more interested in what Lou thinks of the merits of acquiring a 2 time Stanley Cup Winner in Muzzen for the Islanders and not their fans.

Islanders defence was really weak last year and cost Trotz his coaching job.


Lou is not looking at Muzzin I can guarantee that and I never understood these Muzzin trades he’s playing in his dream destination why would he waive to move ?
Jul. 6, 2022 at 11:42 p.m.
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Lou is not looking at Muzzin I can guarantee that and I never understood these Muzzin trades he’s playing in his dream destination why would he waive to move ?


He might agree to waive if another team like the Islanders approaches the Leafs with a offer to acquire him and he decides it is time to move on to a new team to be more appreciated......In reality, there can be lots of reasons why he might want to move back to a US team.
Jul. 6, 2022 at 11:59 p.m.
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I think you are under-estimating the Winnipeg situation in that alot of the players do not seem to be happy including Scheifele and Dubois and it is better to move those guys out before they negatively impact the rest of the team and especially the younger players.

Kerfoot to date has a much better track record and history than Marchment in the NHL.

You are right that Muzzen does not need to waive.......but he is also a pro like McDonagh and just wants to play and be appreciated........He also may realize that he is the reason that he is holding up the development and signing of Sandin.


Don't think Muzzin cares at all about Sandin's development. If the Leafs cared about Sandin's development they would have not acquired Giordano last seasons and resigned Giordano to play LHD this season
Besides Muzzin's NTC, the real flaw in the trade is to expect the Isles to take Muzzin cap and not send any cap back to the Leafs.
Jul. 7, 2022 at 12:21 a.m.
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Toronto would need to add significantly of the want the Jets to downgrade so extremely. It's unlikely to happen though, no one is trading a consistent PPG 1C for a soft, poor defensive, me first winger.
Jul. 7, 2022 at 12:57 a.m.
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Toronto would need to add significantly of the want the Jets to downgrade so extremely. It's unlikely to happen though, no one is trading a consistent PPG 1C for a soft, poor defensive, me first winger.


Yes......you are right.....The Jets will just let Scheifele walk for free as a UFA for no assets and play on their team for the next two years when he really wants out like Dubois.
Jul. 7, 2022 at 4:11 a.m.
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Toronto would need to add significantly of the want the Jets to downgrade so extremely. It's unlikely to happen though, no one is trading a consistent PPG 1C for a soft, poor defensive, me first winger.


You are literally describing Scheifele. Years of watching God awful defence from your C and you still don't know what it looks like? Me first winger? Nylander after having a bad playoffs took responsibility last year. Lol go take a listen to Scheifele's interview post a dreadful year. Lol "me first"? That's Nylander and not Scheifele?

Truthfully the trade between the two does not make sense. If Leafs are going to upgrade at 2C, it will have to be one that actually plays defence. Might as well keep JT there if that's the case. Jets are strong at wing, and after playing his whole life in a city like Toronto, zero chance s player in that situation would ever re-sign in Winnipeg. With the PLD news I think the Jets about to learn that if they ever trade for someone, the years remaining have to be minimum 3-4 yrs, or an equivalent of those years of control. No one wants to play in that city.
 
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