Walks to free agency in 2024. Ottawa now has a 2 year window

Mind blowing

Tkachuk-Norris-Batherson have a ton of chemistry. I think they got Debrincat for Stutzle, who stylistically is a lot like Kane.

The Senators needed to find a way to add impact players.

They are in year 5 of the rebuild that started in 17-18. They need to turn the corner.

If they manage to re-sign Debrincat long term it will be because the team has been sold.

As a Sens fan, I'm fine with them giving up 7th overall in a weaker than normal draft for 2 years of Debrincat. If they make the playoffs both years, it is more than worth it. If they don't, they will recoup the a 1st ++ for Debrincat st the 2024 TDL.

If this leads to playoffs, no young guys requesting a trade, and Stutzle extending this summer before he blows up next year, it's worth it.

It has already come out that they had a trade in principal with Chicago with the later pick.

So the plan was Murray to BUF, and to still do Debrincat.

Chicago was apparently getting an extra prospect with the 16th+39th+3rd.

Even if the prospect was someone like Greig, that's not a steep price to pay to facilitate dumping over 11M of dead salary.

I assume they will end up making a worse deal to dump Murray. If they are talking to Arizona about Chychrun, a 3 way deal with Toronto makes sense where Ottawa gives up a huge package including their 2023 1st for Chychrun and ARZ taking Murray and Zaitsev, and then Murray being flipped to Toronto, possibly with Ottawa retaining 25 percent, and Arizona retaining 50 percent of the remaining 75 percent.

If you're Sens fans aren't you glad the Sens were budget and talent observant when they didn't resign. Karlsson, Stone and Duchene. Rebuilding teams shouldn't be near the cap. Most teams spend within 10m of the cap, so I don't think it's Sens being cheap on players. Young players requesting trades,,,,,,means nothing. They are under teams control for seven years. Undoubtedly there are disgruntled players on every team.....

No. Davidson said "here, hold my beer!" LoL

Good thing they traded for Seth Jones last summer, haha.

There could be a major shake-up in the Eastern Conference next season and definitely over the next 3 seasons. WASH and BOS are on the decline. OTT is on track to make the playoffs next season. I also expect the Devils and Islanders to contend. DET and BUF are a bit further back, but also on a much better trajectory than they were 1-2 years ago.

From afar, he fired an arrow that pierced the hearts of Hawks fans

I see no winner in this trade. Will deBrincat be willing to sign contract extension? If not Senators may sell him for higher return in Feb 2023.

I love the trade for the Sens.

That trade was horrible for them. 2 lottery picks Boqvist (2020 8th overall) and 2021 44th for Jones just to tear the team down the next year

He is almost certainly gone from Ottawa in 2 years, unless there is a change in ownership or spending. They are loading up over the next 2-3 seasons.

I have a feeling they are going to bridge Norris and then Sanderson, in order to lower their salary over the next 3-4 seasons. They will try to get Stutzle signed to an 8 year contract this off season because he has potential to be an 80+ point player.

In a best case scenario, they are kicking the can down the road for a sale or for the Melnyks to take on partners. Worst case scenario is that this entire rebuild gave them a 2-3 year window starting this season, and guys ask for trades or have to be cycled out after that.

Fake news

Lets go OTT so excited for this team next year!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Kyle Davidson looks like a genius for this move now

DeBrincat looked very mid with Ottawa, now there’s a chance he might not resign with them

And Kevin Korshinski lit up the WHL

Summer of Dorian went down hill very fast

I don't think Dorion made this trade with the intention of re-signing Debrincat. He was always going to be a 1 year rental where they could flip him to get back a 1st.

People overreacted with the trade return. Players don't get huge returns very often. What Chicago got for Debrincat is in line with all the other big stars who were traded. Since it's unlikely he'd re-sign in Chicago, and because they are in a rebuild, they were smart to sell at the peak of his value.

His downturn in play did not do Ottawa any favors. They will not get a huge return for him. They should still recoup a 1st, but to will probably be a mid or late 1st.

The biggest problem for Ottawa is DeBrincat could essentially strong arm his way to UFA this summer with his high QO. Ottawa can't afford 9m if he accepts the QO and I doubt many teams in a position to trade for DeBrincat want him at that price much less can afford him at that price. They'd likely need a sign and trade which is a tough sell for a 25yo multi 40 goal scorer coming off a down year.

He is not signing for 9M. He can be taken to club elected arbitration and brought down to as low as 7.65M. Which means, both sides are likely to have incentive to meet somewhere in the middle.

Ottawa has no leverage, not because of the 1 year contract, but because they likely don't want to spend 8M+ on a winger when they have greater team needs and limited cap space. That is assuming the ownership situation is settled, and the new owners give the team the go ahead to spend.

We don't know what the market will be like for players. I think the market at the trade deadline surprised a lot of people with how aggressive teams were. If we go by the off season last summer, they probably will get a mid to late 1st and a few small plusses.

Keep in mind, the original deal for Debrincat was not for 7th overall. It was for 15th overall as the main piece. Dorion originally had two trades lined up. One that saw him trade down with Buffalo to dump Murray, and the other that saw him flip that pick for Debrincat. I think Dorion's original plan was always to rent Debrincat for a year and then recoup the main asset he gave up. If the asset was 15th overall, as he originally seemed to plan, that would have been a lot easier to recoup.

Dorion tried to do the same thing when he acquired Duchene. It is a strategy he used before. The rebuild was already on the horizon in 2017, the collapse only expedited it by a year. Dorion expected the Senators to be in the playoff hunt at the deadline, so he was not going to trade Turris, who was a pending UFA. At the same time, he wasn't extending any players long term, because Melnyk's finances were going to necessitate a rebuild after all the RFA deals ended at roughly the same time. So even know most people felt a 1st, a 1st round prospect, and additional picks was worth way more than the difference between upgrading from Turris to Duchene, if the Senators were a playoff team in 17-18 as Dorion expected, the Senators could have flipped Duchene in 2018-19 for a 1st++ and recoup most of what he gave up for the upgrade (or kept Duchene as an own rental, which has similar value since Turris would have been gone). Of course, it didn't go according to plan, because the Senators collapsed and their was no recouping a 4th overall pick.

DORION GOT FLEECED... This move was a part of a flurry of moves that got him fired...

KD lander, arguably, the 2 best prospects at their respective position

trade grades at the moment:

Chicago: A-

Ottawa: F

F-

Yeah. Man Dorion lost this one for the Sens badly.