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I would be happy with this now that Keith retired

Created by: Copenhagen
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 8, 2022
Published: Jul. 8, 2022
Team: 2022-23 Edmonton Oilers
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Yamamoto, Kailer3$3,000,000
McLeod, Ryan2$1,000,000
Necas, Martin3$3,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Kane, Evander5$7,000,000
Kulak, Brett2$2,500,000
Comrie, Eric3$1,500,000
Manson, Josh2$4,000,000
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EDM
    Keith just retired. So pretend trade to get off the books
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    1. Keith, Duncan
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    1. Necas, Martin [RFA Rights]
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    1. Puljujärvi, Jesse [RFA Rights]
    2. Barrie, Tyson
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    • James Neal: $1,916,667
    • Andrej Sekera: $1,500,000
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    • Milan Lucic: $750,000 (13%)
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    23$82,500,000$81,784,333$896,000$2,200,000$715,667
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    Kane, Evander
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    McDavid, Connor
    $12,500,000
    C
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    UFA - 4
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    Yamamoto, Kailer
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    RFA - 2
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    Holloway, Dylan
    $925,000
    C, LW, RW
    RFA - 2
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    Draisaitl, Leon
    $8,500,000
    C, LW
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    UFA - 3
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    Hyman, Zach
    $5,500,000
    LW, RW
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    UFA - 6
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    Nugent-Hopkins, Ryan
    $5,125,000
    LW, C
    NMC
    UFA - 7
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    McLeod, Ryan
    $1,000,000
    C
    RFA - 1
    Necas, Martin
    $3,000,000
    RW, C
    RFA - 2
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    Hamblin, James
    $807,500
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    Ryan, Derek
    $1,250,000
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    Foegele, Warren
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    UFA - 2
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    Nurse, Darnell
    $9,250,000
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    UFA - 8
    Manson, Josh
    $4,000,000
    RD
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    UFA - 4
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    Skinner, Stuart
    $750,000
    G
    RFA - 1
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    Kulak, Brett
    $2,500,000
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    Ceci, Cody
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    Comrie, Eric
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    Broberg, Philip
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    Shore, Devin
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    Klefbom, Oscar
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    Malone, Brad
    $762,500
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    Smith, Mike
    $2,200,000
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    Samorukov, Dmitri
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    Jul. 8 at 1:27 p.m.
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    Seems pretty unlikely that Carolina does that
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    Jul. 8 at 1:30 p.m.
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    Necas has much more value than Puljujarvi
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    Jul. 8 at 1:34 p.m.
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    Quoting: Canesfan21_
    Necas has much more value than Puljujarvi


    Well he is not a first round pick add. So what a 3rd to a 2nd?
    Is that much more?
    Jul. 8 at 1:35 p.m.
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    Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
    Seems pretty unlikely that Carolina does that


    My original trade was Barrie and JP for Necas. Which I am ok with.
    Jul. 8 at 1:35 p.m.
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    So after being swept by the Avs in the playoffs and seeing Keith retire, your solution is to spend more on offense, less on defense, and practically nothing in goal...?

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    Jul. 8 at 1:38 p.m.
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    Quoting: Foppa21
    So after being swept by the Avs in the playoffs and seeing Keith retire, your solution is to spend more on offense, less on defense, and practically nothing in goal...?

    CWf_LCNU4AE967c.jpg


    What is the difference in lineup with forwards. Lost JP and added Necas
    Got a better goalie. In fact both goalies are better than Smith and Koskinen
    And added our future number 2 D.

    Whats the problem. We should have played Skinner the whole playoffs. Husso is gone and Keumper I am not signing for 5 years.
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    Jul. 8 at 1:42 p.m.
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    Canes wouldn’t be good with that tho.
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    Jul. 8 at 1:44 p.m.
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    Quoting: Copenhagen
    What is the difference in lineup with forwards. Lost JP and added Necas
    Got a better goalie. In fact both goalies are better than Smith and Koskinen
    And added our future number 2 D.

    Whats the problem. We should have played Skinner the whole playoffs. Husso is gone and Keumper I am not signing for 5 years.


    Better goalie? Comrie as 28 career games. He was a fine backup last year but 19 games vs usually worse teams does not make him a "better goalie"
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    Jul. 8 at 1:44 p.m.
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    Quoting: vikhodush
    Canes wouldn’t be good with that tho.


    How about Barrie and JP for Necas?
    Jul. 8 at 1:47 p.m.
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    Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
    Better goalie? Comrie as 28 career games. He was a fine backup last year but 19 games vs usually worse teams does not make him a "better goalie"


    Statistically he is better by far than Kuemper. Kuemper was below average in the playoffs in dangerous chances.
    Skinner is ready and the 2 of them can grow together. I dont want to give what Kuemper is going to get.
    And like goalie experts say, Comrie is just coming into his own.
    Jul. 8 at 1:48 p.m.
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    Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
    Better goalie? Comrie as 28 career games. He was a fine backup last year but 19 games vs usually worse teams does not make him a "better goalie"


    Comrie on a bad team was .920
    Kuemper on the best team with the leagues best Defenseman .921
    Jul. 8 at 1:49 p.m.
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    Quoting: Canesfan21_
    Necas has much more value than Puljujarvi


    Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
    Seems pretty unlikely that Carolina does that


    Quoting: vikhodush
    Canes wouldn’t be good with that tho.


    Why is Necas worth more than Puljujarvi? He certainly doesn't perform better.

    Necas v Puljujarvi

    Necas was a drag on his team while Puljujarvi elevated everyone he played with. Carolina would have to chip in something else or this is a clear loss for Edmonton.
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    Jul. 8 at 1:51 p.m.
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    Quoting: Copenhagen
    Comrie on a bad team was .920
    Kuemper on the best team with the leagues best Defenseman .921


    You have to consider the sample size

    You’re comparing 19 games to 57
    Jul. 8 at 1:51 p.m.
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    Quoting: CD282
    Why is Necas worth more than Puljujarvi? He certainly doesn't perform better.

    Necas v Puljujarvi

    Necas was a drag on his team while Puljujarvi elevated everyone he played with. Carolina would have to chip in something else or this is a clear loss for Edmonton.


    I got a plan if we get rid of Barrie. Sign Manson
    Jul. 8 at 1:55 p.m.
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    Quoting: Copenhagen
    Comrie on a bad team was .920
    Kuemper on the best team with the leagues best Defenseman .921


    19 games... He played entirely as a backup. So the only time he ever saw the net was in back to backs or bottom feeders
    Jul. 8 at 1:56 p.m.
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    Quoting: Canesfan21_
    You have to consider the sample size

    You’re comparing 19 games to 57


    Yup and last year Kuemper played appr 60 games. Every year before that he played approx under 30.
    Jul. 8 at 1:57 p.m.
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    Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
    19 games... He played entirely as a backup. So the only time he ever saw the net was in back to backs or bottom feeders


    Just like Kuemper until last year right?
    Yah just like. Oh besides 1 other year.
    Jul. 8 at 2:00 p.m.
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    Quoting: Copenhagen
    Just like Kuemper until last year right?
    Yah just like. Oh besides 1 other year.


    What are you talking about? Kuemper was the starting goalie in Arizona every season.
    Jul. 8 at 2:03 p.m.
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    Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
    What are you talking about? Kuemper was the starting goalie in Arizona every season.


    Sorry I was looking at the stats.

    2015-16 Minnesota Wild NHL 21 0 2 1055 43 2 2 2.43 6 7 5 464 0.915 - - -
    2016-17 Minnesota Wild NHL 18 1 4 1058 55 0 0 3.13 8 5 3 507 0.902 - - -
    2017-18 Los Angeles Kings NHL 19 1 0 999 35 0 3 2.10 10 1 3 481 0.932 - - -
    2017-18 Arizona Coyotes NHL 10 0 0 597 32 0 1 3.22 2 6 2 285 0.899 - - -
    2018-19 Arizona Coyotes NHL 55 2 14 3251 126 0 5 2.33 27 20 8 1551 0.925 - - -
    2019-20 Arizona Coyotes NHL 29 0 6 1753 65 0 2 2.22 16 11 2 838 0.928 9 0 0
    2019-20 Tucson Roadrunners AHL 1 0 0 59 2 2 0 2.05 0 1 0 26 0.929
    2020-21 Arizona Coyotes NHL 27 0 4 1547 66 0 2 2.56 10 11 3 644 0.907 - - -
    2021-22 Colorado Avalanche NHL 57 0 2 3259 138 0 5 2.54 37 12 4 1616 0.921 16 1 2
    2021-22p Colorado Avalanche NHL 16 1 2 887 38 0 1 2.57 10 3 1 348 0.902

    %%gp once and 57 games played once
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    Jul. 8 at 2:06 p.m.
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    Sorry I was looking at the stats.

    2015-16 Minnesota Wild NHL 21 0 2 1055 43 2 2 2.43 6 7 5 464 0.915 - - -
    2016-17 Minnesota Wild NHL 18 1 4 1058 55 0 0 3.13 8 5 3 507 0.902 - - -
    2017-18 Los Angeles Kings NHL 19 1 0 999 35 0 3 2.10 10 1 3 481 0.932 - - -
    2017-18 Arizona Coyotes NHL 10 0 0 597 32 0 1 3.22 2 6 2 285 0.899 - - -
    2018-19 Arizona Coyotes NHL 55 2 14 3251 126 0 5 2.33 27 20 8 1551 0.925 - - -
    2019-20 Arizona Coyotes NHL 29 0 6 1753 65 0 2 2.22 16 11 2 838 0.928 9 0 0
    2019-20 Tucson Roadrunners AHL 1 0 0 59 2 2 0 2.05 0 1 0 26 0.929
    2020-21 Arizona Coyotes NHL 27 0 4 1547 66 0 2 2.56 10 11 3 644 0.907 - - -
    2021-22 Colorado Avalanche NHL 57 0 2 3259 138 0 5 2.54 37 12 4 1616 0.921 16 1 2
    2021-22p Colorado Avalanche NHL 16 1 2 887 38 0 1 2.57 10 3 1 348 0.902

    %%gp once and 57 games played once


    His lower games played in the last previous 2 seasons were because of injuries but he was 100% the starter when healthy. But hey if you want to run a waiver wire goalie as your starter I have super exited as a Flames fan
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    Jul. 8 at 2:14 p.m.
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    Quoting: Copenhagen
    How about Barrie and JP for Necas?


    No thanks. Wouldn’t include Necas in a trade for either of them. Could send you picks if there was actual interest from canes
    Jul. 8 at 2:15 p.m.
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    Quoting: Foppa21
    So after being swept by the Avs in the playoffs and seeing Keith retire, your solution is to spend more on offense, less on defense, and practically nothing in goal...?

    CWf_LCNU4AE967c.jpg


    Maybe he's just following Sakic's example?
    Jul. 8 at 2:15 p.m.
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    Quoting: CD282
    Why is Necas worth more than Puljujarvi? He certainly doesn't perform better.

    Necas v Puljujarvi

    Necas was a drag on his team while Puljujarvi elevated everyone he played with. Carolina would have to chip in something else or this is a clear loss for Edmonton.


    Ok than keep the better player - notice it’s never canes posts that have Necas for Pulj swaps, always oilers ones.
    Jul. 8 at 2:17 p.m.
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    No thanks. Wouldn’t include Necas in a trade for either of them. Could send you picks if there was actual interest from canes


    Puljujärvi stats

    Here are some more of his underlying numbers, and how they rank among the aforementioned 171 players:

    CF/60 – 1st
    CA/60 – 29th
    SCF/60 – 23rd
    SCA/60 – 128th
    GF/60 – 55th
    GA/60 – 9th
    xGF/60 – 5th
    xGA/60 – 69th
    OR
    https://twitter.com/zjlaing/status/1524477349240004610?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1524477349240004610%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.redditmedia.com%2Fmediaembed%2Funmvnc%3Fresponsive%3Dtrueis_nightmode%3Dfalse
    OR
    https://www.facebook.com/OilersNation/photos/a.1290639507657089/5152399664814368

    Lol OKAY, no problem.
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    Jul. 8 at 2:17 p.m.
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    Quoting: vikhodush
    Ok than keep the better player - notice it’s never canes posts that have Necas for Pulj swaps, always oilers ones.

    Gladly.
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