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2021-2022 NHL Offseason Discussion Thread #6 - Alex DeBrincat is an Ottawa Senator

Jul. 12, 2022 at 10:51 a.m.
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Quoting: Borocop
i really dont think theyre in win-now mode though, like if they were they would be trading big futures for good players on retained deals. I think theyre in compete now mode for sure, but they need some of their younger players to take on bigger roles (Sandin, liljegren, robertson, even knies and neimela & hirvonen) before I really think theyre in win-now mode. Like again i really like their team matthews and marner are 2 of the leagues best, but to me they really need that john tavares contract off the books before theyre a real win-now team and that only happens down the line


I suppose that all hinges on Matthews and Marner resigning. If they can get both to resign them I agree they’ll still be in win now mode. Still don’t like this trade though.
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Jul. 12, 2022 at 10:51 a.m.
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I would rather not sign a 34 YO, but it’s a better FA option than anyone besides Gaudreau and Burakovsky. Less risk with a 2-3 year deal than signing almost any other 28 YO to a 7 year deal


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Jul. 12, 2022 at 10:51 a.m.
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He didn’t inherit sh*t lol, there are only 5 players from the 17-18 roster (last Lou year) still on the team, and one of them is Justin Holl. This is unquestionably his team at this point and pretending otherwise is kidding yourself.


The most important players on the team are still there. Dubas has been moving pieces around with those 5 and has done **** all with it. He's terrible
Jul. 12, 2022 at 10:54 a.m.
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Quoting: Saskleaf
I suppose that all hinges on Matthews and Marner resigning. If they can get both to resign them I agree they’ll still be in win now mode. Still don’t like this trade though.


theyd be pretty stupid to sign anywhere else tbh, and yeah the trade itself is pretty gross no matter how you spin it given murrays recent history and performances. im excited to watch sens/leafs games now though lol
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Jul. 12, 2022 at 11:01 a.m.
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The most important players on the team are still there. Dubas has been moving pieces around with those 5 and has done **** all with it. He's terrible

He didn’t have Tavares, and any moron could pick Matthews 1st overall. The Marner selection was also Dubas arguing for it iirc, and Babcock almost f*cked that up (he wanted Hanifin). There really isn’t an argument that he inherited a good team. 4 players do not make a team, he added the 5th member of the big 5, and added the necessary supporting pieces (Muzzin, Brodie, Campbell, Bunting, Kerfoot, etc.) to create the best Leafs team ever. As I’ve been saying, the lack of playoff success can’t be pinned on him, because he put the team in a position to succeed, and the players choked. If Matthews/Marner/Nylander/Rielly (all top 10 picks btw, no previous GM has ever left behind a player drafted lower than 8th overall, and we’ve all seen how important late round drafting is) were all you needed to win, the Leafs would have several rings.
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Jul. 12, 2022 at 11:03 a.m.
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Hockey gods please, Necas for Burns


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Jul. 12, 2022 at 11:04 a.m.
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Lou is gonna lose out on every free agent 😭
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Jul. 12, 2022 at 11:07 a.m.
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Lou is gonna lose out on every free agent 😭


Isn’t he being sarcastic? Lol
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Jul. 12, 2022 at 11:09 a.m.
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Quoting: Alfie11
He didn’t have Tavares, and any moron could pick Matthews 1st overall. The Marner selection was also Dubas arguing for it iirc, and Babcock almost f*cked that up (he wanted Hanifin). There really isn’t an argument that he inherited a good team. 4 players do not make a team, he added the 5th member of the big 5, and added the necessary supporting pieces (Muzzin, Brodie, Campbell, Bunting, Kerfoot, etc.) to create the best Leafs team ever. As I’ve been saying, the lack of playoff success can’t be pinned on him, because he put the team in a position to succeed, and the players choked. If Matthews/Marner/Nylander/Rielly (all top 10 picks btw, no previous GM has ever left behind a player drafted lower than 8th overall, and we’ve all seen how important late round drafting is) were all you needed to win, the Leafs would have several rings.


people wanted him to go for it when he inherited the roster so he signed tavares, and now hes gets dumped on for signing tavares lol. The team is definitely good enough to win a round, how they haven't is beyond me
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Jul. 12, 2022 at 11:10 a.m.
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Hockey gods please, Necas for Burns




I bet it’s going to be gardiner , prospect + a pick for Burns (2-2.5 mill retained)
Jul. 12, 2022 at 11:13 a.m.
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lindblom potentially getting bought out. didnt see that coming
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Jul. 12, 2022 at 11:16 a.m.
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According to reports
Petry + Poehling are going to Carolina
The deal was made on draft day, just dundon wants the habs to pay petrys bonuses before it is official me thinks
Jul. 12, 2022 at 11:21 a.m.
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Isn’t he being sarcastic? Lol


Not sure tbh
Jul. 12, 2022 at 11:23 a.m.
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Quoting: DucharmetheDOMinator
According to reports
Petry + Poehling are going to Carolina
The deal was made on draft day, just dundon wants the habs to pay petrys bonuses before it is official me thinks


Source?
Jul. 12, 2022 at 11:27 a.m.
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Quoting: AndrewLadd
Source?


it's not a reliable source, plus it's just a rumor website trying to combine rumors. I dont even bother sharing the link to you guys

the only thing close to a source is Renaud Lavoie saying a trade was pending involving MTL on draft day, but didnt materialize. Lavoie is a low tier source
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Jul. 12, 2022 at 11:29 a.m.
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Today would be a great day to trade Semyon Varlamov


Russia is in need of another goalkeeper. Maybe they will add him, then pair him with Pheonix Coeply? sign Malkin to play with OVi and dang.
Jul. 12, 2022 at 11:35 a.m.
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sens in on weegar 👀 👀 👀 👀 👀 👀
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Jul. 12, 2022 at 11:36 a.m.
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Future Hab
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Jul. 12, 2022 at 11:44 a.m.
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sens in on weegar 👀 👀 👀 👀 👀 👀


am I the only one that doesn’t like it? He’s gonna be 29, looking for a longterm deal at 6+ mill, had some terrible playoff series too. I’d much rather Marino at 4 mill from ages 25 to 30 or even Chychrun
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Jul. 12, 2022 at 11:44 a.m.
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Buffalo should trade for Weegar to play with Dahlin . 2023 1st (top 10 protected) , Bryson + Ryan Johnson for Weegar with extension (6.75 mill x 8)
Jul. 12, 2022 at 11:47 a.m.
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Buffalo should trade for Weegar to play with Dahlin . 2023 1st (top 10 protected) , Bryson + Ryan Johnson for Weegar with extension (6.75 mill x 8)


I don't love it, id rather sign Manson or trade for someone like Chychrun if we are going to give up the assets.
+ Dahlin played amazing as a RD along side Samuelsson who is 23. Not really sure it would be smart to move away from that combo at all.
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Jul. 12, 2022 at 11:51 a.m.
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This was an awesome thread and kinda badass
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Jul. 12, 2022 at 11:54 a.m.
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am I the only one that doesn’t like it? He’s gonna be 29, looking for a longterm deal at 6+ mill, had some terrible playoff series too. I’d much rather Marino at 4 mill from ages 25 to 30 or even Chychrun


chychrun is my #1 but if the cost is astronomical (which seems likely) this is a nice fallback. My only qualm isint with his age, its that the sens need some contract assurance for the next 2 years while they find extensions for stutzle and sanderson
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Jul. 12, 2022 at 12:03 p.m.
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Jul. 12, 2022 at 12:03 p.m.
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This was an awesome thread and kinda badass



Did they announce the Leafs camp yet or is it just the 2 guys rn
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