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What Goalies Are Remaining For The Leafs

Jul. 10, 2022 at 8:18 p.m.
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Jack Campbell - I don't understand why Dubas doesn't wanna negotiate but whatever (just give him 5m x 4 already)

Darcy Kuemper - Probably too expensive, but the best goalie available.

Ilya Samsonov - A goalie we can acquire via trade (if the caps no longer want him, and wanna pursue a free agent)

Alex Nedeljkovic - Really unlikely for DET to give him up, but we could overpay for him (picks + prospects)

Matt Murray - I've never really doubted Dubas, but if he does this, he's officially lost it.

Kevin Lankinen - He's the only backup that I've listed here, but I think he can break out

Brayden Holtby - Would be nice to have him in a tandem role.

Anyone I'm Missing?
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Jul. 11, 2022 at 12:38 p.m.
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Jack Campbell - I don't understand why Dubas doesn't wanna negotiate but whatever (just give him 5m x 4 already)

Darcy Kuemper - Probably too expensive, but the best goalie available.

Ilya Samsonov - A goalie we can acquire via trade (if the caps no longer want him, and wanna pursue a free agent)

Alex Nedeljkovic - Really unlikely for DET to give him up, but we could overpay for him (picks + prospects)

Matt Murray - I've never really doubted Dubas, but if he does this, he's officially lost it.

Kevin Lankinen - He's the only backup that I've listed here, but I think he can break out

Brayden Holtby - Would be nice to have him in a tandem role.

Anyone I'm Missing?


Holtby is considering retiring

I still think Talbot will be a target.
Guerin is just bitter right now, once he realizes he in a business where he has conduct with agents of same players he will come around.
But Talbot has to want out.

Reimer is in the mix as long as we not his NTC.

Some unrealistic options.

Gibson, I dont want to go this route.
Grubauer, would Seattle be interested?
Hellabyuck, if Jets decide to rebuild why not?

I want no part of Samsonov, he is not good.
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Jul. 11, 2022 at 2:11 p.m.
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If Dubas trades for Matt freaking Murray he needs to be fired. It’s such a stupid idea it defies all logic.
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Jul. 11, 2022 at 2:31 p.m.
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Honestly was contemplating if Dubas trades for Murray in a 3 team trade where he get him for 2.5-1.5625mill or in a trade where OTT retains 50% but sends Formenton with him im good

As before his final 2 game where it was discovered he was playing through an Injury Murray in 18 games for the Sens had a 0.915sv and this is the Sens with a Dcore that is not great.

As with a 4.5mill tandem Dubas then has space to go upgrade the forward lines

Like imagine 2022-2023

Bunting-Matthews-Marner
Robertson-Strome-Tavares
Kubalik-Kampf-Nylander
Engvall-Jankowski-Anderson

Rielly-Brodie
Muzzin-Liligren
Giordano-Sandin

Reimer
Murray
Jul. 11, 2022 at 2:42 p.m.
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Quoting: aadoyle
Honestly was contemplating if Dubas trades for Murray in a 3 team trade where he get him for 2.5-1.5625mill or in a trade where OTT retains 50% but sends Formenton with him im good

As before his final 2 game where it was discovered he was playing through an Injury Murray in 18 games for the Sens had a 0.915sv and this is the Sens with a Dcore that is not great.

As with a 4.5mill tandem Dubas then has space to go upgrade the forward lines

Like imagine 2022-2023

Bunting-Matthews-Marner
Robertson-Strome-Tavares
Kubalik-Kampf-Nylander
Engvall-Jankowski-Anderson

Rielly-Brodie
Muzzin-Liligren
Giordano-Sandin

Reimer
Murray


No thanks to Formenton till the World Junior controversy is over. Now if they include Jacob Bernard-Docker I'd be cool with that.
Jul. 11, 2022 at 2:49 p.m.
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No thanks to Formenton till the World Junior controversy is over. Now if they include Jacob Bernard-Docker I'd be cool with that.


Wait thats still going on

In that case wouldnt mind looking at someone on an ELC like Järventie
Jul. 11, 2022 at 2:56 p.m.
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Wait thats still going on

In that case wouldnt mind looking at someone on an ELC like Järventie


yes, it is still on going. I am not saying he is guilty but until the names of the accused are out, I would not want him apart of the roster.
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Jul. 11, 2022 at 4:53 p.m.
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So Gibson is out he said he will block a trade to Toronto and anywhere else I assume
Jul. 11, 2022 at 5:27 p.m.
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Samsonov
Jul. 11, 2022 at 5:48 p.m.
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Quoting: aadoyle
Samsonov


Hes a bad option
Jul. 11, 2022 at 5:56 p.m.
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Hes a bad option


Not really 25 years old huge upside what more can you ask for

3 years 3.5mill and let him evolve like Campbell did

As with a guy like Reimer mentoring him were set.
Jul. 11, 2022 at 6:18 p.m.
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Not really 25 years old huge upside what more can you ask for

3 years 3.5mill and let him evolve like Campbell did

As with a guy like Reimer mentoring him were set.


So his qualifying offer would be 2 million, you want to pay what? There is a reason he didnt get a QO.

He had over 3 GAA and below .900 sav %


What part screams attractive to you?
Jul. 11, 2022 at 6:24 p.m.
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So his qualifying offer would be 2 million, you want to pay what? There is a reason he didnt get a QO.

He had over 3 GAA and below .900 sav %


What part screams attractive to you?


With arb he was getting 3-3.5mill and in the UFA market there will be a lot of teams vying for his service in net.

Also Washington's Defense wasnt great at times and it seems whatever they were teaching him wasnt good as at times he got no help

And whats attractive is hes 25 years old and capable of playing more than 30 games. With a fresh start we could see a 40 game guy with a 0.914 sv

Now it wont be him and Kallgren as Dubas would bring in a vet backup to mentor him but if all goes well Toronto has a future starter for years to come

But in the end this is a guy I would gamble on with Reimer, Talbot, Murray backing em up
Jul. 11, 2022 at 6:50 p.m.
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With arb he was getting 3-3.5mill and in the UFA market there will be a lot of teams vying for his service in net.

Also Washington's Defense wasnt great at times and it seems whatever they were teaching him wasnt good as at times he got no help

And whats attractive is hes 25 years old and capable of playing more than 30 games. With a fresh start we could see a 40 game guy with a 0.914 sv

Now it wont be him and Kallgren as Dubas would bring in a vet backup to mentor him but if all goes well Toronto has a future starter for years to come

But in the end this is a guy I would gamble on with Reimer, Talbot, Murray backing em up


I am sorry but I dont see it in Samsonov.
Jul. 11, 2022 at 7:14 p.m.
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If Dubas trades for Matt freaking Murray he needs to be fired. It’s such a stupid idea it defies all logic.


this aged well
Jul. 11, 2022 at 7:15 p.m.
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this aged well


What do you mean?
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Jul. 11, 2022 at 7:17 p.m.
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What do you mean?


we just waiting for the leafs and sens to kiss at this point
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Jul. 11, 2022 at 7:24 p.m.
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we just waiting for the leafs and sens to kiss at this point


If Murray is the leafs backup or in a tandem I’ll be fine with it (and of course it should be said that he must come with at least 50% retention). If he’s the starter or comes with only 25% retention, it’s a terrible idea. Murray is Mrazek, just with a lot more potential honestly.
Jul. 11, 2022 at 7:27 p.m.
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If Murray is the leafs backup or in a tandem I’ll be fine with it (and of course it should be said that he must come with at least 50% retention). If he’s the starter or comes with only 25% retention, it’s a terrible idea. Murray is Mrazek, just with a lot more potential honestly.


he’s already peaked. he’s gonna decline
Jul. 11, 2022 at 8:17 p.m.
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I quit
I am done
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Jul. 11, 2022 at 8:49 p.m.
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So Murray and one of Reimer/Allen/Comrie/Samsonov

Interesting
Jul. 11, 2022 at 9:10 p.m.
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Edited Jul. 12, 2022 at 9:05 p.m.
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I quit
I am done


I can feel the passion fading
Jul. 11, 2022 at 9:49 p.m.
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If Murray can do that but in more than 20 games will be happy.

And knowing our med staff I can see him playing 40+ games. Now we just need a 1b and SJS has a former friend
Jul. 12, 2022 at 6:49 p.m.
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Just when I thought I couldn't get anymore bitter than yesterday, Minnesota trades Talbot to Ottawa.





This lasted long.
Jul. 13, 2022 at 11:52 a.m.
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Not really 25 years old huge upside what more can you ask for

3 years 3.5mill and let him evolve like Campbell did

As with a guy like Reimer mentoring him were set.


His upside is pretty much gone two years of waiting for him to breakout and he’s shown no progress I’d say he has about two or three years left in the NHL
 
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